Cream instead of potatoes

[S11m]

Following on from my previous post about cream:

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I have been eating four jacket potatoes a day as a cost-effective way to keep my weight up.

Double cream can be as cheap as £2/600ml (Waitrose)...

and 600ml of double cream is about 2,790 kcal per 600ml

Co-op jacket potatoes are £1 for four 189kcl potatoes, so 600ml of double cream has the same energy as 14¾ potatoes - for a lot less money.

As I believe in LCHF - and like cream, I will try eating 600ml of cream a week, and two fewer potatoes a day.

[Sheperdess]

Your glucose levels should be more stable on cream compared to jacket potatoes too 😀

[TheAwfulToad Ambassador]

Well ... if you're still eating two potatoes plus cream, it's not exactly LCHF

Why do you want to get fat? IIRC you had a lot of success so far getting to a normal BMI. Why reverse your hard work?

If you want to "keep your weight up" then you need to be adding muscle, not flab, and the only way to do that is to exercise like your life depends on it.

You're absolutely right with your cost calculation though. We have occasional arguments on various groups about this topic, with some people convinced that LCHF is only for rich people, and/or that the poor have to eat carbs because carbs are cheaper. Carbs are not cheaper. Fat is so energy-dense that you need very little of it to stay fuelled up.

Of course, man does not live by lard alone - even if you could theoretically stay alive by drinking a teacupful of double cream every day, that's not a sensible way to live. So you need some extra stuff to make a meal. But that can be as fancy or as plain as your budget allows.

[S11m in reply to TheAwfulToad]

Hi, TheAwfulToad - thank you for replying.

I wrote that I believe in LCHF, but I know I do not eat it... eating cream and less potatoes would help. I have no gall bladder, so a higher fat diet might not suit me. Many are intollerent of dairy.

I was over nineteen and a half stone... for decades my target weight was 18 stone... and I revised it to 16, 15 and now 14 stone, stabilising at each target weight before losing more. I am now 16% body-fat, which according to the chart I use, puts me on the Fit/athletic borderline... I feel great at this weight - but I do not want to lose any more (at the moment). I want to stay at 16% body-fat. I am 6' 3" and 71 and have muscle definition.

BMI is not a good yardstick for old, tall, muscular people: See "How do you know if you are too fat?:

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I walk 40 or 50 km/week and do exercises including knee raises and (cheat) pull-ups. When I started losing weight I was disabled, used a power chair outside the house and could not exercise.

My two mothers-in-law and my late wife starved to death, and some spare fat improves life expectancy.

Do avocardos grow on trees where you live?

I eat Eat Natural Gluten-free, Cereal-free Buckwheat muesli for breakfast... but I could buy or make keto muesli - does anyone do that?

I think it is difficult to find other budget high-calorie keto foods in a small supermarket - any suggestions?

[Subtle_badger]

You are comparing expensive potatoes to cheap cream. I think cream is basically a waste product of the dairy industry right now, so it's price does not reflect production costs.

Even waitrose has 900kcal/kg potatoes for 48p/kg so you could definitely get the calories cheaper from potatoes. Personally, I stopped eating starchy potatoes back in the 90s when I found they have a high glycemic index - though obviously lower if you add the cream to them. Now I am starting to understand the damage spiking blood sugar can cause, even if I go back to carbs, I will never go back to things like a plateful of pasta, or a huge potato. It's just too damaging to the body.

Are you sure you are at your ideal weight? Waist at half your height is the cut off for obesity. An inch less than that may be right for you, but maybe you would be happy with a smaller waist?

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[S11m in reply to Subtle_badger]

Hi Subtle_badger , thankyou for your reply. I have replied to TheAwfulToad since I got your reply.

"I think cream is basically a waste product of the dairy industry right now, so it's price does not reflect production costs."

The dairy farmers do not get a good price (for milk or cream), and they select/breed cows for maximum milk yield - but I think they have to (or used to have to) have a minimum proportion of cream.

I am looking for ways to decrease my consumption of carbohydrates.

I have revised my target weight three time in the last two years.

My waist is about two inches less than half my height.

RFM says that I am "normal"