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Standard Type II diabetes treatment

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I assume there are a few people on here like me, who don't have T2DM and only learnt about it's treatment from Jason Fung and David Unwin etc. The diet solution seems natural and we assume everyone must be aware of it, but as far as I can tell, it's only understood by a few.

Anyway, I stumbled over this nice short description of standard pharmaceutical care of type II that I think might be informative. I see why Dr Unwin was ready to retire; treating patients like this must be so depressing.

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BrynGlas

My God! I have no words to say anything with! Thank God I don't have type 2, that's all I can say (and I am enjoying my vegan diet very much thank you!)

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AnnieW55

Thanks for that. It makes the whole thing more “real” (as opposed to just hearing about the processes and meds piecemeal). As far as I know I’m not in line for DM2 but information like this makes sure I’m doing what I can to not join the queue!

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S11m

My daughter-in-law has diabetes, and when I suggested that Diabetes is treatable, she thought I was the ignorant one.

If I bought her Dr Jason Fung's book on Diabetes, would she read it?

My brother did buy Dr Jason's obesity book - but did not read it, and now can cancer - for which fasting would be good!

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TheAwfulToadAmbassador in reply toS11m

I noticed, after several months of posting on the diabetes forum, a majority of people with T2D "grow into" their disease, taking a perverse pleasure in its relentless progress (hastened, of course, by the completely nonsensical prescriptions of the medical profession). I found this unutterably depressing and gave up posting there, because I got nothing back except vitriol and "woe is me" responses. It must be horrible to watch it up close.

My view these days is that T2D isn't even a disease. It's a protective mechanism: a failsafe control strategy for blood glucose that accepts chronic ill-health as preferable to rapid death, on the basis that a terrible diet must surely cease eventually (and when it does, things go back to normal). I suspect that a human left to his own devices would feel naturally driven to reduce carbs with the onset of symptoms ... but when browbeaten into continuing the diet that made them ill in the first place, they'll follow doctor's orders.

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S11m in reply toTheAwfulToad

Diabetes and obesity tend to be different stages or symptoms of the same condition, and I think many people "grow into" obesity - thinking that they cannot (be bothered to) cure it.

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TheAwfulToadAmbassador in reply toS11m

Indeed. Just as diabetics are told that "it's a progressive disease and there's nothing you can do about it", the obese are told either that (a) they should just learn to accept themselves as they are or (b) that they're horrible, weak-willed people and they're fat because they can't control their gluttony. Naturally, then, they just give up - in the former case by living in a world of delusion, or in the latter by descending into depression and apathy.

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Leeleepuss

Crikey, I can’t even follow all that!

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