Sadly luke perry has died after a stroke. If you didn't know him then that is a research project. A few years ago he developed cancer and changed his diet away from red meat towards fish and fibre google.com/amp/s/www.mirror...
Whilst giving up red meat is to be applauded was replacing that with fish good for him? Was the fact that fish is high in cholesterol a factor?
So far I have no idea what the fibre in his diet looked like. My guess is it was not legumes which have proven anti cancer properties.
Whatever he did the big question in my mind is that given he had cancer his diet changes weren't enough to save him.
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I was just thinking about this as I was reading an article lamenting that we can't influence our brain's health. According to this article, strokes just happen. Too bad. Very sad. We're all just getting older, so there's nothing that can be done. But there is!
97% of those eating a western or SAD diet are fiber deficient. That's absolutely astounding, and yet we always seem to hear "get more protein", when only 2% are protein deficient.
Here's a very good, 5-minute video to refresh everyone's memory and protect your brain!
I've looked into Perry's diet a bit. Here's what he said after having a cancer scare 4 years ago:
"I have significantly cut down on the amount of red meat I eat. I used to be a steak and potatoes kind of guy — now it’s just for special occasions. I eat a lot more fish, natural grains and fiber.”
More fiber is good, less red meat is good, but replacing it with fish and possibly chicken? youtu.be/RjNcvDxCvFk
Hi Andy, I think that suggesting eating fish caused a stroke is very speculative as fish and sea food do contain cholesterol but its mostly healthy cholesterol, even though I'm not a fish eater, many of our members are and enjoy fish as part of their healthy lifestyle. So I think we have to look at all aspects of his lifestyle.
There is no way to know exactly what caused his death. He obviously had a weakened body from his cancer. My main argument is that to address that a small change in diet is simply not enough. Cancer takes 10 years before it can be detected, even with the best technology. The article stated he reduced his red meat intake and that is very different to no red meat. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, unfortunately some "illnesses" don't give you a second chance.
Cholesterol, good or bad, is not a straightforward argument that it causes strokes. According to nutritional science it is seriously implicated in the story. But one has to look at the total diet and lifestyle, and in Luke's case, his health status overall.
I know it sounds so easy for me to sit here and pronounce. But health is a game of odds.
Genes stack some of us with bad odds to begin with. Upbringing can stack odds further badly against us further. Following being in the Navy my dad smoked 20 to 40 a day "Capstan full-strength" until around the age of 60. I picked up that habit and now...
Now I feel a total fool for smoking for just five years during my time at University. I smoked in total ignorance of its strong relationship to arthritis. Given my family has a tendency to arthritis, smoking was a stupid thing for me to do. Of course back then I was ignorant of nutritional science. However now I have to live with that decision, and fight at every meal for good health that is clear of arthritis. Fortunately with arthritis I am at least still alive.
YouTube videos are mainly click bait.
I didn't look at the ones put on here, but am sure there will be 5 or more worst foods not to eat or 10 foods that are best to eat on cancer.
I think this forum has a very sad side to it.
Healthy eating and activists just don't go together.
Click bait is a real problem, that's for sure. In my own special subject arthritis i see a number of articles each day offering up the latest panacea. As you say it is usually a list of the 10 worst etc. And while each list may have an element of truth the rest is rubbish. Learning to differentiate can be hard graft. You would like to think a Hollywood star would be able to pay for good advice. But then even that can be hard to track down.
Perhaps his body, given the prior history of cancer, was too far gone across the board and he should have just eaten and drunk regardless of outcomes. Perhaps that is close to what he actually did.
What would I have done? I like to think I would have used evidence based medicine to get to the root of my problems and understand the choices. If the evidence based stuff says outcome is still going to be a very early death, then I would not be interested in anything except providing for my loved ones and then spending any other money on seeing the world as fast as possible.
If on the other hand the evidence is that eating absolutely no red meat and no processed meat might be seriously beneficial for my body, then why wouldn't I do that?
It's hard to say if it was diet alone. Some people are at higher risk of blood clots in general. The NHS will test you for it before putting you on certain medications, but they only bother to test if you have family history of blood clotting issues.
I was actually on medication for years, that heightened risk of blood clots, when my aunt had a stroke. It was only then that the NHS started thinking I should be checked out. I can imagine something similar could have happened here.
A healthy lifestyle may save you from some ailments and possibly reduce the odds on you getting some cancers but it doesn't remove the risk entirely.
I'm recovering from cancer and in one discussion group i use there are non alcohol drinking vegans indignant about getting cancer, as if they expected to be absolved if the risk.
Unfortunately not. I don't feel at all responsible for my cancer.
Lifestyles can influence your health but not completely remove all risks.
It might be that Luke had unidentified Atrial Fibrillation or Arrythmia which caused his stroke.
If nothing else his death should reinforce that life is short so we should be enjoying it.
There is such a thing as bad luck. Not everything is down to diet. As Violetta25 said, cancer strikes (with a few known exceptions, like lung cancer) pretty much at random.
I took notice of Perry's death because he was 4 years older than I am now; that fact doesn't make me think: "OMG, it's probably time to go vegan" because my cardiovascular health, on every measure you can think of, is excellent. My diet, statistically speaking, is associated with a significantly reduced risk of stroke, chronic CVD, and MI. But it does bring home the point that life is finite and that one should treasure every minute of it, because we really don't know when the guy with the cloak and the scythe is going to ring the doorbell.
Cowering behind one's plate of boiled lettuce and lentils, in the hope that this will squeeze out a few more minutes of earthly existence, strikes me as a fundamentally unsatisfying way to live.
TAD >> Cowering behind one's plate of boiled lettuce and lentils
Love it. You know how to bring a smile to my face.
That said, no one wants to live life as a cabbage. Fortunately yesterday I had some spicy baked red cabbage & carrots. Red cabbage is a fabulous vegetable and unlike lettuce it has a lot of body to it. With that spice it had a real zing and it went very well with a lentil & cauliflower curry.
Such sad news. Fish contains omega 3 fatty acids which are not the same as cholesterol. Cholesterol producing foods may be mainly dairy with cheese cream yoghurt and milk. My cholesterol went down when I cut down on dairy. We don't know his health history and there are so many other factors with heart disease so reducing red meat may not have made a difference.
I seem to be eating a lot more red meat since I started reading on this forum.
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