PIP tribunal.

[Plenty]

I know when PIP goes to tribunal there are 3 people making the decision.

1. The Judge.

2. A Doctor.

Can someone remind me who the 3rd person is?

Thanks.

[cat3]

Plenty, I can't get this link to work, but if you type ;-

'Tribunal panel members - Courts and Tribunals'

into your search engine it has all you need to know about tribunals ; should be the first item on the page. Hope this helps. Cat x

Hope it helps, x

[Plenty in reply to cat3]

Tried that and can only see what I said - 3 people, one will be the judge and one will be a doctor.But no worries.

Sure they’ve helped many people by making the correct decision.

[spideyman in reply to Plenty]

If the DWP didn’t lie in the first place then they’d be no need for tribunals

[Plenty in reply to spideyman]

absolutely.

[cat3 in reply to Plenty]

Here's a continuation of the text where it mentions how the four members are comprised of a judge, a doctor and two other professional people who aren't medical, and therefore can be trusted to offer an unbiased opinion. -------------------------

Most tribunal hearings are chaired by legally qualified Tribunal Judges but they often sit with specialist, non-legal, members – for example doctors, accountants, surveyors or those with particular experience of disability or the armed services – depending on the subject matter of the hearing. Tribunal members are not expert witnesses; they provide a practical, specialised view of the facts and evidence before the tribunal. For example, an employment tribunal may include members with an employer and employee perspective.

Tribunal members listen to the evidence in a tribunal and question parties and witnesses where appropriate. Tribunal members take an equal part in the decisions made by their tribunal but are advised on points of law by the legally qualified tribunal judge who chairs the panel and who will also write the decision.

Appointment

Tribunal members must have experience or background knowledge relevant to the work of the tribunal on which they sit. When tribunals are advertising for new specialist members they set out the eligibility criteria for the post to ensure that candidates have the required range of skills and knowledge.

Tribunal members are almost all appointed on a fee-paid basis and are paid according to the number of sittings or days worked. The number of sitting days specialist members are expected to commit to varies depending on the cases they hear, and will generally be at least 15 days a year. Tribunal members are normally appointed for five years initially and will usually have their appointment renewed for further periods provided that they are still willing to serve and considered to be competent.

[BERTHA12 in reply to spideyman]

So true. Taken me 15 months to get to tribunal. I did paper based appeal and did not attend due to anxiety. The DWP couldn't get their facts straight so I picked their reports apart. They gave me 0 points. Tribunal gave me 21 points and DWP have had to back pay me every penny.

[Plenty in reply to BERTHA12]

Everyone says you have to go to tribunal for pip with a brain injury.Shocking how the assessors can give zero points.

[sealiphone in reply to Plenty]

I see this issue, as it was around 2005 with clients with ME, a 'imagined' rather than organic illness. From what I read it's our turn now, symptoms which often fly against most peoples common sense.

How ironic that we now have evidence showing that with ME certain areas of the brain operate, as though that area was damaged.

In fact I recently had a visit from someone who had a lot of experience with ME patients and she immediately recognised by own ME like symptoms. I recall the ME society having their 5 minutes on BBC4 with "Our symptoms are the same as Brain Fog",

All the research which neuropsychologist used, in 2009, came from US research in to ME, as our symptoms are so similar and there is no reliable research looking at the ABI the population

So given GPs are taught nothing about brain injury, I feel this is a much bigger , stand up and demand respect issue across society.

[spideyman in reply to BERTHA12]

The DWP should face prosecution

[Trevor78 in reply to BERTHA12]

I've seen many reports like that & it's not surprising tbh. I was on high rate DLA but lost that when PIP came along. I got as far as completing all of the forms and sealing the envelope but the thought of having to justify myself to a nobody & then probably appeal was just too much to cope with so it never got sent. If you compare DLA forms to PIP (I have both) then what they are asking isn't that different but needing to score points and not put foot wrong in what you are saying certainly is. If they want to give 0 points then unfortunately it's all too easy.

[spideyman]

The 3rd person is a regular member of the public.

Mine asked me if I preferred to go to Hull or Scunthorpe shopping.

I said who the Hell would go shopping in Scunthorpe.

She was from there

[Chelle3069]

Occasionally they will have someone from the DWP attending, but not always. There was one there at mine.

[Hidden]

The 3rd person on the panel has disability knowledge or lives with a disability. Get someone to go with you. Your responses to their questions need to be you putting your case forward. It is very stressful. Good luck!

Benefits & Work is a good site with helpful guides. It’s about £20 to join.

[JessFM]

The one is the middle is a judge then their is a doctor and a disability assessor.