Do you avoid Oats and Codex Wheat starch?

[SillyYak]

I've been avoiding these since I've been diagnosed. Had tried some new products with codex wheat starch and had lots of wind. Just wondered if people thing it's a myth that wheat starch is bad (as it's meant to be de-glutenised isn't it?).

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Hi Silly yak, codex wheat starch is very processed it is washed repeatedly in solvents to 'wash' the bulk of the gluten out. This renders it inert and the only nutritional value is the additives and the calcium they add is chalk whose molecules are 100,000X bigger than calcium in milk so our bodies have to work harder to remove 99.9% of the chalk as the absorption rate is minimal.

Oats are a cross between wheat and rye and are a member of the triticale grass family (the forbiden grains) Oats if grown and milled free from contamination are naturally very low in oat gluten (avenin) coeliac who can not tolerate codex also seem to be the coeliac who can not tolerate oats, so we see oats like codex.

Malt from barley is also 'allowed' in low quatities because it falls below codex so gluten free actually means not more than x amount of gluten.

What worries me about allowed or 'safe' levels of gluten is that this allowed level is coming down not going up and next Jan the allowed level in the UK drops from 200ppm tp 20ppm this is a reduction of 95% in some continents they have had 5ppm as gf for over a decade.

The research that I read claimed that tiny amounts of gluten only affect a small area of the upper gut tract which's far less sensitive to many coeliac hence they can tolerate codex. In the UK until 2007 kellogs crunchy nut corn flakes were classed as safe for coeliac.

So at the end of the day its down to personal choices based on how our bodies react to codex and oats, with awareness of what we are really eating.

Jerry

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I can't eat anything with oats or codex wheat starch without the same sort of trouble I'd get if I ate wheat. It would be handy to be able to eat oats - I recollect research I read a couple of years ago that said that 10% of coeliacs cant tolerate oats even if not contaminated iwth wheat - that's still a lot of poeple.

For a very senistive person like me the whole 'almost-safe' wheat thing is ridiculous.

I also find that the xanthum gum most of these foods have in gives me the squits and gut pain, and, last time my grandchildren viisited i breaded chicken using a bought loaf instead of my own bread and they both had ferocious wind. So, separate out the effects of xanthum gum on our guts too before you decide what causes you the trouble.