An unusual explanation of why we became coeliac

[Lynxcat]

As often happens when a person goes on the web and is looking up something they accidentally stumble upon something else, something quite different and usually it has nothing to do with whatever they were looking up. Today I tripped or perhaps I should say toppled upon a lovely site and if you can spare a minute or two it explains a little of how coeliac disease came to be ....

glutenfreeforgood.com/blog/...

[KarenHelsby]

This posting is actually very factual...as a coeliac for fifteen years, now dairy and soya intolerence...I actually find meat hard to digest...on popping in to my 100 year old herbalist shop, the wonderful lady their, spent the best part of an hour explaing to me all the above in this posting...how we are not ment to eat meat...she put it quite simply...do you see any meat eating animal doing the following...

Popping it in the oven to cook?

Eating it with a knife and fork?

Most animals that eat animals do so because they are made that way, they have sharp teeth in order to rip the meat to pieces, would back away from cooked meat i.e they eat it raw!

So like many things in our food chains this is a man made way of eating..not a god made way.....fruit berries vegetables nuts....i then said to the kind lady...but what about protein....her reply so simple....what do cows eat?

[purplehaze in reply to KarenHelsby]

Certainly food for thought!!!!

[Lynxcat in reply to KarenHelsby]

Hi Karen, I do not think we can really have 'a one diet for all mankind' we are essentially all different. There are also examples around every corner and reasons we can find for differences. For instance it was always thought that bears were carnivors until the giant panda was discovered who spends its days eating bamboo shoot after bamboo shoot. What is important to remember when looking at herbivors is they spend their entire days eating - they eat non stop, continuously chewing. A good few of these animals are large, if they were people we would even call them fat. For instance the hippopotamus, which spends most of its time chewing vegetation though it has been known to take the occasional chomp of meat. Then there's the elephant, what a large creature that is! If you have ever come face-to-face with a domestic cow you will also have found that they are a considerable size but what an existence chewing and chewing and chewing like a machine to get the nutrients into their bodies. In answer to the lady that you spoke of from the shop ... 'what do cows eat?' I would also add that cows do not live very long .. around 6 to 7 years if they are dairy cows unless they are allowed to live out their lives which can then range from between 10 to 20 years with wild ones averaging around 15 years (if they're lucky and don't get picked off by predators or break a limb or contract an illness).

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In other words species of animals that are totally vegetarian have to take in a tremendous amount of food to acquire small amounts of protein. Many have two stomachs because of digestion problems that eating so much greenery makes. Rabbits for instance, eat greens then will eat their excrement to absorb as much nourishment as they can from their diet.

Humans on the whole have a varied diet often depending upon the area of the world that they come from. Many are vegetarian - not always through choice but simply because that is the only food available to them. I think whether a person's values lends towards being a vegetarian or not it is obvious when looking at a human't teeth that we are omnivor by appearance. In other words, we have both molars (vegetarian teeth) and canines (carnivor teeth). That doesn't mean that we should eat lashings of meat or fish but to serve our bodies well we do require the best varied diet that we can give ourselves in order to maintain optimum health. I eat mountains of nuts and seeds .. people say they are fattening but I don't think that they are but then I am not a bread eater, I rarely eat cake or cookies or biscuits. I do eat some meat - a little chicken, occasional pork, liver, eggs, cheese and milk. I have, when I have been able to get hold of some had small portions of venison and was amazed at how it made me feel like taking an elixhir of life both invigorating, enlivening, uplifting and most certainly nourishing. Perhaps because deer isn't messed with unlike other meats we might buy and eat.

I am pleased that you have found your answer to what makes you feel well but we are all so very different and it may perhaps have something to do with what our ancestors thrived on. Perhaps one day they will be able to take a blood sample and come up with an individual diet that is custome made for every individual. Imagine that!

Happy Easter - do you still enjoy chocolate? I do ... the strongest I am able to purchase.

[lizmeek in reply to KarenHelsby]

You dont need to eat meat to get protein there are plenty other foods that contain protein. You will feel a lot healthier on a meat free diet and its good to cut out the dairy too, a healthier and cruelty free diet is so much better for you.

[Jacks]

I'm not sure comparing cows with humans is a good analogy. Cows teeth don't compare at all with human teeth - have a look! If you still have your own teeth you will have sharp teeth - incisors and canines that can cut meat. As for eating raw meat - some of us do rather well on a rare steak!

The reasons humans developed such a big brain was because they ate meat (and fish) and prior to fire it would be raw. Our nearest relatives in the primate world (genetically chimps) are also omnivores.

Cows are ruminants, they have two stomach compartments for cud chewing. I don't have hooves or horns so don't expect to eat like an animal that has.

I think that as coeliacs are so restricted in their diet any attempt to persuade them make it more so is damaging to health and we shouldn't be doing it.

The article is by a vegetarian. It's personal choice.

[KarenHelsby]

oh dear oh dear...i have sparked a war on words....No Jack i am not a vegetarian, i actually love meat..it does not however love me...nor do dairy products or soya or sugar....our diets are restrictive and we can and do share our experiences within this forum...what works for one, does not work for others, but by sharing our experiences we help each other...free choice

[Lynxcat in reply to KarenHelsby]

I know what you mean regarding certain foods not working for me but oh how I wish they would Karen! Lol!

Just out of curiousity have you read about Fodmap intolerance ... I think it is well worth a read especially by people with CD as I firmly believe every little tiny bit of information is useful and sometimes helps to turn on a light in our brain and allow us to think .. may be that is what is causing the problem .. or similar thoughts.

In truth I am eating up information as fast as I can - the more I eat it up the more I feel able to tackle problems that arise from having coeliac disease.

If you haven't read about Fodmap before then here is a very brief description and a site full of all kinds of answers so if you can spare just a minute then click here: dietsolutions.net.au/specia...

[KarenHelsby]

Lynxcat...thank you for above...I am so lucky that for many years i just had coeliacs to contend with, and many years ago it was much harder and not as visible as it is today...so we do have progress!.....i always think the first time is the hardest..i remember my coeliac book of foods and spending hours looking at labels in the supermarket..i do laugh at this today...so whilst yes it is not pleasant to yet again eliminate more foods from my diet....i accept that this is how it is, in order to be well....some of us just struggle with man made foods...i lead an organic diet now and have found ableandcole.co.uk to be brilliant in this area....its not as expensive as one may think...i can do fish and meat in very small doses.....i eat six small meals a day, because my sugars were going every where...and most importantly i accept responsibility for my own well being....a doctor can guide but not cure...the body is a wonderful machine, i will look into Foodmap intolerance thank you for this...i am just reading a wonderful book called Gut Reaction by Gudrun Jonsson.......and have taken too colonics every three months just to keep my body working as best as it can do.....because after all its the only body i have