Ladies with experience of natural FET

[Amelia1984]

Hello All,

Wondering if any of you may have experienced a natural FET and had worries about what day your 5 day embryo goes in your oven ...

We’re slightly panicking and definitely over thinking things, but this is our 9th treatment so it’s bound to happen.

Our clinic works on the bases that the day of my LH surge, our 5 day embryo goes in 7 days later (allowing 2 days from surge for ovulation). In theory that all makes sense. But then I wonder if my surge really happened Saturday, as there’s a whole 24 hrs between my morning pee tests. Secondly I’m using Ovusense which will indicate the day of ovulation, but this always takes a few days after to confirm when this happened and I’m still waiting on this...

The OKPs showed my surge on Sunday, so technically this Saturday is the day the clinic advises FET. We’re thinking Friday, (the way my Ovusense chart is looking).. has anyone had a transfer 6 days after their surge as oppose to 7 days?

Sorry complicated question and over worrying .. we are just so desperate to get things right.

Thank you so much for any words you can offer us x

Baby dust to you all 💫

[Prayingforafamily]

Not sure if this helps... I am in the process of Natural FET. My clinic does not do scans or blood tests on a weekend so I did OPK and it came up positive Saturday... I had a scan 8am Monday and the scan confirmed I had ovulated so they took ovulation day as Sunday. I have my transfer booked in 5 days later... Friday x

[Amelia1984 in reply to Prayingforafamily]

Thanks for you reply 🙏 May I ask what time of the day your OPK on Saturday, was it first pee of the day? Very best of luck for Friday for you x

[Prayingforafamily in reply to Amelia1984]

I took a test 4pm Friday and nothing took a test 4pm Saturday and had 3 dark lines indicating positive x

[Prayingforafamily in reply to Prayingforafamily]

Sorry.. 2 dark lines. I do worry that I may have ovulated Saturday night and my transfer will be too late ... but then I’m overthinking everything now x

[Amelia1984 in reply to Prayingforafamily]

I totally understand your worries, I’m totally going crazy here .. I’m sure all will be okay and we’re both hopefully just over thinking things too much. Good luck x

[Prayingforafamily in reply to Amelia1984]

I don’t know how accurate it has to be do you? Is it a matter of hours or a 24 hour window?

[Amelia1984 in reply to Prayingforafamily]

That’s the thing, I’m not sure .. I’m gauging that theres a window but don’t know how big of one ..

[Prayingforafamily in reply to Amelia1984]

I think I ovulated early hours Sunday morning as I had a slight pain ... so if I have my transfer in the afternoon of Friday Is this too late? I just don’t know the scope the window ...

[Amelia1984 in reply to Prayingforafamily]

The day which your clinic has told you, so 7 days past your surge, is what my clinic has advised me. So I think you’re okay 👌

[Orangeflowers]

I think the implantation window is typically 4 days (day 6-10 post transfer/ 20-24 from first day period). So I think there is scope for timings not to be bang on. Also some women have late implantation, so if timing is off it could be an advantage. Hope all goes well x

[Amelia1984 in reply to Orangeflowers]

Thank you for your reply 🙏 We have booked for FET on Friday so technically 6 days from my surge and worried now incase it’s a day early 🤦🏻‍♀️ x

[Miriii]

Heeyyy, i had a FET. I done bloods and when my levels were close to ovulation i did ovulation test. I got a positive ovulation test sat morning ( first urine), messaged my clinic and sent a pic, she confirmed ovulation over a sms, didnt have anymore tests, bloods or scans but was booked in for a transfer thursday morning... now im 9 weeks pregnant. Hope that helps a little, just trust they know what they're doing xx.

[Amelia1984 in reply to Miriii]

Huge Congratulations to you! That’s lovely news. I know we need to trust what they are doing, I totally agree .. I just feel so worried having had so many fails. I know I’m over thinking things. As my surge was Sunday they’re saying Saturday (7 day), but we’re currently booked on Friday (because of our feelings) so 6 days since surge .. which seems to be what you had .. 6 days past surge. It’s awful when everything plays with your mind 🤦🏻‍♀️ Wishing you a wonderful pregnancy x

[Hk12]

Hi Amelia1984! I’m doing my first natural FET after one failed medicated one. My clinic told me that the day I see the peak will be day 0 and I will have the transfer on day 5. I was confused given the time difference between peak and actual ovulation but apparently that is how it’s done in my clinic. I am currently using both urine test and OvuSense although my clinic says urine test is sufficient and they will work on the basis of urine test result. I did a baseline scan and will be going to the clinic on day 15 for another scan to check my lining etc.

[Amelia1984 in reply to Hk12]

Hello, thank you so much for your msg. Yes my clinic goes off the urine test too and doesn't really understand the OvuSense it seems. Have you had your peak yet? I had mine of Sunday which was my day 13, I had a scan on day 10 where they said my lining was good (8.2 and could see the start of my triple line). I've asked if I have another scan now but they've said I don't need (which makes me slightly nervous). So I am booked in on Friday for my FET. Are you going to take any progesterone supplements are your cycle? I have every other cycle but as this is a natural I'm not planning too, but would like my progesterone levels checked.

[Hk12 in reply to Amelia1984]

Hi Amelia1984, sorry, I just called my nurse and I need to correct what I said above. So the day I see peak is day -1 and transfer is on day 5. They told me to check urine just once in the morning and not evening. I asked what happens when the surge happens in the evening and they said that it doesn’t change things much as hormone levels they are looking for won’t change a lot during that time and what they are trying to do is to introduce the embryo to match with certain thickness of lining with the age of embryo (mine is 5d)..

I tend to ovulate on day 16,17 and only at day 10 now so still some time to go! I did request for progesterone level testing on the day of FET and if necessary, will take cyclogest. I was told that it doesn’t do any harm to take them.

[Amelia1984 in reply to Hk12]

Thank you. Yes my clinic have agreed to test my progesterone on FET day and going to see how my temps go between now and transfer as to whether I take any progesterone. But think I have good levels of this as last time we tried and I took it took me until day 39 to get my period and I'm usually 27/28 day cycle. Very best of luck to you too and really hope you get your BFP!x

[Hk12 in reply to Amelia1984]

I was exactly the same! I don’t think I have issues with progesterone too but then just wanted to try everything I can as I never conceived naturally. If it doesn’t do any harm, I might take progesterone but let’s see what the doctor says. I won’t have anymore scan after ovulation, I heard that’s fine. Thanks and I hope you get your BFP!!!

[Hk12]

and of course, wish you the best of luck!!! Hope it all goes well!!!

[Core]

Good luck with your natural FET I have also just been advised to try this by our doctor after many fails but like you have quite a few questions and worries! Seems strange after so many medicated FETs. When is yours planned for?xx

[Amelia1984 in reply to Core]

Thank you, good luck to you too. This is my first FET, had two fresh embryo transfers previously which we're medicated (and 5 x medicated IUI's, 1 x natural IUI) .. I've always felt strong about trying a natural cycle, as have had some many drugs. Mine's planned for Friday afternoon, I'm awaiting a time. How about you? x

[Core in reply to Amelia1984]

Thanks, I’ve had 7 FETs now and all failed to implant apart from one which ended in early miscarriage so I’m keen to try something new and like you at a bit worried about all the hormones I’ve been pumping into my body! Are you taking any progesterone to support? I think mine won’t be till January at the moment as I’m also looking into other tests like ERA. Good luck for Friday xx

[Amelia1984 in reply to Core]

I'm sorry to hear you've had so many fails too. Yes it does feel positive to try something new doesn't it, like this slight change might contribute to making that big difference. At the moment the plan is not to take progesterone, as I wanted to keep it all natural. That being said I would take in an instance if I needed too. I have asked my clinic to test my progesterone levels on the day on FET which they are doing but I have to wait 4 days for the results (which could be crucial). I'm going to keep monitoring my BBT and if this dips at any stage after FET, take a pessary straight away (as I have plenty left from previous cycles). Thats what I am thinking at the moment. I don't know much about ERA but I think its a good to get checks for possible reasons as to why it's not happening. I hope your clinic are offering you lots of good advice. I wish you the very best for January and it being your time. Thank you xx

[Core in reply to Amelia1984]

Yes that makes sense about the progesterone, I don’t think my clinic will test mine which worries me slightly although I am going to take 1 Lubion a day. Good luck for yours hope this is what’s needed xx

[Amelia1984 in reply to Core]

Thank you kindly.. xx