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Is This An Attempt To Steal The Creatorship Of LongWheat From Mother NATURE?

Is This An Attempt To Steal The Creatorship Of LongWheat From Mother NATURE?

The Hindu reported (on Dec 28, 2018) the claim of Dr. Regina Ahmed hailing from Changanassery in Kerala's Kottayam District. The claim is to have DEVELOPED A NEW VARIETY OF FIBRE-RICH WHEAT ... . It is claimed to be rich in Amylose, Resistant Starch and having slow digestion.

INTERESTING FACT IS THAT A SENIOR AND LEARNED MEMBER (PATLIPUTRA?) HAS REPORTED HERE THAT LONG WHEAT HAS THESE QUALITIES!

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George,

You are 100% right. Long wheat known as Emmer Wheat outside India has these properties and you had proposed and demonstrated the effectiveness of this wheat in blood sugar normalisation in diabetics long ago. There are other studies which support these aspects but they are all recent ones. For example see the link below:

jcea.agr.hr/articles/773936...

I can produce several references to this effect but all are published after you had already discovered it.

YOU ARE INDEED THE PIONEER IN PROPOSING AND DEMONSTRATING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF EMMER WHEAT( INDIAN LONG WHEAT) FOR DIABETICS.

Unfortunately, your work was perhaps not reported in any international scientific journal and therefore it could not reach wider audience.

There are three varieties of ancient wheat namely, Einkorn, Emmer and Spelt in that order. In fact, I did fair amount of research before deciding to try it myself as you may be aware.

It is surprising to note that someone from Kerala would not know about long wheat and your discovery and report independently as if she has done completely a new thing.

Anyway, unmodified ancient Emmer wheat will be the right choice rather than a new version of modern wheat under the so called new proposal.

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Thanks a lot for the pleasing remarks, dear Praveen55

I think Bhagat Geetha says "our aim should be to perform our duty, ... ... will be given by God"

In my place there is a saying that "It was deliberately that God avoided giving horn to horses".

I do not repent about what I could not do or what I did not get.

WHATEVER I COULD DO AND GET, ITSELF, ARE FAR MORE THAN MY DREAMS.

HE has done great things to me!

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I do admire your approach.

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Thank you Praveen55 very much.

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For about a week now I had been looking through your web pages and have decided to give long wheat a try. Here in Trivandrum I am able to get it in its "broken" form, not the whole. Does this make a difference? Do you have any idea where I can get the real thing?

The claim "DEVELOPED A NEW VARIETY OF FIBRE-RICH WHEAT" may not be false as genetic manipulation in flora isn't a very difficult process. However the relevant questions are a) what did she start with? b) what did she produce that is new? c) is there any attempt to patent the discovery? Being from Kerala I am absolutely sure she was well aware of long wheat and its properties. Is it possible to approach CSIRO for more details?

I did not know what long wheat was until someone on this forum told me that it was "suji gothamb" in Malayalam, my mother tongue. Then I realized that in my childhood it was a staple part of my breakfast in the form of "upma" along with other dishes like "idli" and "dosa". I also remember a diabetic uncle (we were a joint family then) who was fed a "kanji" form of this every night by my aunt while all others had a different dinner - he lived to a ripe old age with no disabilities!

It is absolutely essential that we try and get at least a GI tag on this produce (however I understand it grows all over India) before it is exploited by others. I am aware that a number of traditional plants have get the interest of multinational pharma companies who are using their highly developed reductionist skills to isolate material that can be patented.

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Hi Rakins, it was me who told you about 'suji gothamb' and about shootergeorge. I was little surprised about you not knowing about long wheat living in Trivandrum. Then I thought you might have moved there recently.

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I was born and brought up here - I simply failed to make the connection between the English words "long wheat" and the Malayalam name. Thanks for bringing ShooterGeorge to my notice!

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Go to groceries at Chalai, Sreekaryam etc. You can find unbroken LW there.

Possible difference is that one may not be able to make out whether it is adulterated with broken boiled Chamba Rice, which is a cheap bye product of Rice mills. Adulteration, if done, will boost the price of cheap bye product by several times!

Broken LW is marketed by rice brands only!

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I went to QRS here on Sunday and met the manager there - at least he was able to recognize and identify the product. He was familiar with emmer wheat and also suji gothamb. They had only the broken variety in the store which was labelled "samba wheat" which he claimed was the same as what I wanted. Is it the same? I have my doubts. In any case he said he would get the unbroken version for me in a week's time from B'lore from where it is shipped. I shall check out Chalai market in a few days. Thanks a lot.

Have you tried bringing your experience of long wheat to Dr. B. M. Hegde?

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Samba wheat is long wheat,available in Bangalore.

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Samba is a Tamil name. Unbroken packed was available at TvmPothys, somebody told in this forum earlier. It was true.

I couldn't bring my experience to the notice of Dr. B. M. Hegde. Everybody to whose notice I bought this were simply skeptical to it, except a few genuine members of HUDI.

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Dr. B. M. Hegde is the only person as far as I know who can help with this. He is on wikipedia and YouTube. I really hope you contact him as soon as possible. He debunks most western treatment protocols for diabetic, cardiovascular, psychiatric and other diseases and all big pharma too - in the most entertaining way possible!

I managed to buy the real unbroken long wheat without much trouble from the main margin free store at Chalai without much difficulty. It was unadulterated and clean too and I had my first meal yesterday and enjoyed it. Thank you.

There are a number of things on this diet I want to talk to you about. How can I contact you? Thanks again.

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I will try to get in touch with Dr. B. M. Hegde through Wikioedia. Thank you for your guidance and persuasion.

Regarding discussion/clarification, can we not do it here? Then it will be useful to other members also.

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Since May 2017 I have been practising intermittent fasting - I skip breakfast and have only lunch and dinner. Also I fast 36 to 48 hours once every week. From May 2017 I have also reduced my carbohydrate intake though I am not fully on an LCHF diet.

Results: a) My weight has come down from 100 kgs to 86 kgs. b) My HbA1c has come down from 6.4 to 5.4. During this period my doctor took me off DibizideM and reduced my metformin to 250 mg at night. My latest BS readings (mid-Jan 2018) are FBS/PPBS - 126/98. In May 2017 it was 123/117. My lipid profile is well within the safe range. My doctor is unable to help me further. I want to get rid of all meds.

I believe the improvement in my condition, although not by much, is due to the fasting and the reduced carb intake - I don't know in what proportion. I am trying very hard to restrict my carb intake to less than 100 gms a day.

Will the long wheat diet work if I take it just once a day, at night? Or do I need to take it three times a day as you suggest for any positive results?

I do not know if there are many people on this forum who are into fasting but I do hope my questions - and your suggestions - will be useful to all of us. Thanks.

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I don't think that all good things will still be good after combining.

Change in weight and HbA1c are simply due to fasting and carb intake lowering. It seems to have made no impact on your Diabetes.

This is shown by May 2017 and Jan 2018 results.

I haven't suggested three intakes daily. If you take only once you cannot consume sufficient quantity to cross the threshold.

What are your Lipid profile numbers?

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Quite true. I agree. Just that I don't want to lose what I have got!.

Lipid profile on Jan 13, 2018:

Cholesterol -179,Triglycerides- 102, HDL-51, LDL-107.6, VLDL-20.4, Cholesterol/HDL ratio-3.51, Creatinine-0.84.

My thyroid tests on the same date:

T3-87, T4-5.66, TSH-2.89.

How much would be sufficient quantity of LW a day to make an impact? My weight being 86 kgs I suppose 85 gms dry at one time is OK. The question is how many times a day would I have to take it?

For the last two or three days since I bought the stuff I have been having it at dinner along with veg. It is very filling and I have no hunger pangs until lunch the next day. I also have some cooked vegetables.

My lunch is my main meal which is one third portion raw veg -tomatoes/cucumber/onion/green capsicum/green chilli etc. followed by cooked two thirds portions of two eggs scrambled with ,lots of onions and beans/spinach/palak/broccoli etc.

Thank you.

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Thank you for the details, Rakins . Your numbers seem to be fine.

For this weight you may need to consume 180 gms or more of dry grain LW daily, at the rate at which I was taking when I was diabetic.

If you have suspicion/concern about losing the gains acquired by the previous diet, start with the quantity you feel harmless even though it may not make an impact on Diabetes.

Monitor BS and see if there is any improvement in a week or two. Then we'll review and take appropriate decision/action.

Wish & pray all the best.

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Thank you for your helpful reply. I am keeping my IF intact and having LW at dinner only. I shall let you know in a couple of weeks what happens. And make any changes then. Thanks.

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:-)

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Hi...Could you post your experience of combining IF & LW diet?

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How to get this long wheat in Kolkata? Is it available online ??

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Available at amazon.in. Open the link below. Choose unbroken variety.

amazon.in/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_...

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Hi George,

Have you seen this? Your message has gone to the wheat manufacturers!

amazon.in/Kisaan-Maitreya-K...

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Thank you Praveen55. This is REALLY A PLEASENT NEWS. India may at least come down from the wrotten status of Diabetic Capital of the World to a better position!!!

Thank you once again for this good news to my notice. Even though many people does not like, I can't stop praying MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

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I am sure your good wishes will become reality for me. Thank you very much for that.

It is high time your picture should appear on the wheat package- the original inventor!

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That is too much to expect.

More over it was an Ayurveda Doctor who brought this to my notice.I just used it and proved/demonstrated.

He got the information from a Sanskrit book.

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Thank you for giving this great information, just wanted to ask that there are many sellers selling the same wheat so how to decide which is the original or correct wheat variety to buy ?

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Hello raj1461 , If you open the link amazon.in/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_...

It does mention Emmer wheat. I think we have to trust the suppliers. On our websites, many users have posted the pictures of LW in the past. You may find them useful for comparison. You may also post the picture of the LW for ShooterGeorge to give his comments.

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The picture looks like orginal Khapali wheat.

But when visited to manufacturers site it shows something called Shiv kaleen wheat (wheat grown during the time of Great king- Raja Shiv Chatrapati) i.e.in 16th century....

Here is some information...

eol.org/pages/108051/details

Wheat is among the most ancient of domesticated crops. It was apparently derived from wild species in the Fertile Crescent of southwestern Asia around 8000 B.C., together with Barley (Hordeum vulgare) and pulses. Einkorn (T. monococcum) and Emmer Wheat (T. turgidum dicoccum) represent early lineages of domesticated wheats. The grains of these species retain their hulls after threshing. Today, Einkorn and Emmer are grown only to a very limited extent. Modern Bread Wheat (T. aestivum) and Durum Wheat (T. turgidum durum) are "free-threshing", producing naked grains. After Bread Wheat entered cultivation, it spread into Europe, North Africa, and Asia. Through most of the 16th century, wheat was confined to these continents, but in the subsequent two centuries it was taken to North and South America and to South Africa. Somewhat later, it reached Australia and New Zealand.

And the price quoted by supplier is really exorbitant i.e R. 209/- per KG. almost 4 times the current market price in Pune

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Local suppliers will be definitely cheaper. Someone asked on-line availability and I remembered it was available on Amazon. Now I see there are many suppliers on Amazon also from Rs100 to Rs210 per kg. 'Dhatu' being organic certified is the most expensive one. Message is spreading and it is being sold as Wheat suitable for Diabetes.

There has been renewed interest in ancient wheat in Europe and North America in particular Einkorn and Emmer varieties.

Thanks for the web link which is quite informative.

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Hello sir, I have already placed order for 5Kgs of Emmer LW from Amazon, waiting for the delivery to be done and to start the LW diet regime quickly. Amazon link: amazon.in/gp/product/B077P6...

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amazon.in/Kisaan-Maitreya-K...

Though organic, it is very costly. Here in local market it is available for Rs. 45/ kg

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Agreed. All suppliers on amazon are trying to exploit.

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Today I am writing a post. Please have a look in a short while.

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True! Everywhere people are trying only to cheat/exploit others. That is the order of the day!!!

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More over they might be keeping the INTERNATIONAL MARKET in mind! Rs 210 may be around $3 USD.

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Sorry that I am unable to edit the post. The date of news is wrongly put in 2 places. Correct date is 28 January 2018.

Please bear with me.

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Sir want to know how to consume this wheat, you have suggested to make porridge out this wheat but are there other ways to consume this wheat for example LW flour is also available so can we make chapati from it and will the result be the same as the porridge, please advice. TY

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What is said is what I did. It is the quantity of daily intake that matters and not the form, I think - dear raj1461

With broken as well as pulverised, one can not make out whether it is adulterated. So better to buy whole wheat and get it broken or powdered.

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Thank you for your prompt and precise reply.

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George sir, one quick question: Consumption of LW is surely going to increase the PPBS so how to deal with that part. Now I am having Metformin(500mg) 1-0-1 and Metformin-GP(0-1-0) and I am following LCHF diet to a large extent. So how to deal with it if PPBS level hits really high. I am a vegetarian(only eggs). Please guide and advice. Thank you for your time.

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raj1461 After the first LW meal measure your BS at 30 minutes intervals and report here. Let us see how it is going to go. Then we can discuss how to deal with that part.

SO FAR NOBODY HAS REPORTED SUCH A PROBLEM. I don't know the case of patients who have been following LCHF.

TODAY I AM WRITING A NEW POST. PLEASE SEE IT.

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Thank you for your reply, I had also messaged you regarding the same as I wanted some assurance before I begin LW diet..

Read your new post, first congrats on your passing and very good marks and 2nd, very good info passed on by you to the readers, thank you again sir.

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