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Do you have experience with Kefir?

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We know that 67% of PwP have insulin resistance and a high % have leaky gut and SIBO.

So:

Refilling the gut with probiotics should help repair the gut lining and reduce the presence of harmful bacteria.

Anyone tried it? Does it conflict with the no-dairy recommendation somehow?

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park_bear

This company makes a non-dairy yogurt and kefir: foragerproject.com/all-prod...

Available in many supermarkets.

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Parkie1

I make my own water kefir which I think is better than the milk version. Best to Google it. I take it on an empty stomach in morning. Too much gives you diarrhoea, so you have to find what amount is best for you. I take 200mls

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chenmor in reply toParkie1

Does it help with anything?

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Parkie1 in reply tochenmor

Yes, helps with constipation. Careful not to drink too much, because it can give you wind 🫣

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parkie13 in reply toParkie1

I'm going to Google it.

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parkie13

Low fat milk has more of a connection to Parkinson's than a full fat milk. I was wondering about that also.

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JayPwP in reply toparkie13

Milk is generally boiled for disinfection. Boiling separates the fat, leaving low fat milk liquid. Unboiled milk, even pasteurised, is not recommended for consumption directly.

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Parkie1

I only use minimal organic full fat milk in muesli and tea now. I was given the "grains" for water kefir by a friend because they multiply very quickly, but you can buy them on Internet. For the 2nd fermentation I add frozen berries, raspberries and cherries being my favourite. It makes a lovely drink, so the temptation is there to take too much! Be careful to follow all instructions, e.g. don't use any metal cutlery, because they somehow don't like that.

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CRMACK1948

When we took kefir over a 5 years period we never caught any infectionswhen I accidentally killed our culture and didn't replace it we started to catch anything going.So possibly it also protects the immune system

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hmm777

I have a kefir-based smoothie everyday for lunch. I use Lifeway brand 1% milk-based kefir. I cannot prove that it's beneficial, but for what it's worth my MDS says that after 9 years my progression remains among the slowest of his hundreds of clinical patients.

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BH68

I use kefir daily for breakfast, soaking muesli in it over night with flax, chia etc. It had no impact on constipation, but tastes good. I use Yeo Valley, which is more creamy & yoghurt-like.

Zoe have some good podcasts on gut biome, not PD specific but digestible.

I’m not worrying about the dairy. Partly because I’m using organic, and I assume that the bad effects were about pesticides in the milk rather than a problem with fat or protein. And partly because I really enjoy cheese…

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Sammh in reply toBH68

I like goat kefir when I can find it as it is grass fed. And more digestible than cow milk.

I had the same thoughts you did about improving gut health, so I bought some kefir grains on Amazon and started making our own kefir milk. I use A2 beta casein milk because it might be easier to digest than A1. Hopefully it’s worth the cost and trouble of making it, but I really don’t know.

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india245

if you are worried about dairy, but want to increase beneficial microbiome , another option to look at might be sauerkraut? Completely different I know, but I found that helpful for constipation and general health

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Chastar

I use kefir from a company called Chuckling Goat in UK which is goats milk kefir. It contains about 30 beneficial bacteria whereas supermarket brands only have a few. I also find I rarely get ill so I’m sure it does improve immune system function. I’m pretty sure my PD started in gut so my thought was I would try to improve my gut health to slow progression/ heal my body!

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MarkPrana

I take unpasteurised Sauerkraut daily, along with Pickled Beetroot juice, which I buy from my local Polish grocery store.

(I live in the UK, where most supermarkets don't stock these products - certainly not the unpasteurised ones required for gut microbiome benefits)

Not based on any recommendation specifically, just the philosophy of feeding the gut lots of healthy bacteria being a good thing for PwP to do.

Hope that helps.

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