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How does coffee or caffeinated tea fit in to your daily regimen?

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Including it into your daily diet is a common practice for many people. Although these drinks can provide a temporary boost of energy, it is important to consider their impact on overall health. Moderation is a key factor when consuming caffeinated beverages to avoid possible side effects. If you need more information on how to control your caffeine intake and its health effects, check out Essiac Tea recipe ( erdheim-chester.org/wp-cont... ) . Likewise, try to use this promo code 5offnow to get a discount. Taking care of your health involves making informed choices about your daily habits, including caffeine consumption.

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evenshoshan

I usually rise at around 04:00 AM and ritually begin the day on an empty stomach with a strong hot black sugar-free coffee (2 teaspoon servings of freeze-dried coffee), this gives me all the boost I need for my daily (every day) 05:30 AM 10-kilometer fast one hour and a half walk, that's my one and only coffee for the day.

I'm 70 years old, male, diagnosed by in 2018 with Parkinson's (confirmed by DatScan), main symptoms are right hand tremor and Restless Leg Syndrome.

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Gisel in reply toevenshoshan

Do you take any drugs? I was diagnosed in 2018 as well by DatScan. Now I have to take 400 mg L-Dopa and the agonist Pramipexol (1.57 mg).

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evenshoshan in reply toGisel

Hello (good morning from France) Gisel, I take half a Sinemet Carbidopa/Levodopa 25mg/250mg three times a day (3 x 1/2), and an equivalent of Pramipexol (Rotigotine) of Neupro 2mg 24-hour patches and Gabapantine for the Restless Leg Syndrome.

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MarionP in reply toGisel

You want to Max up on the antioxidant polyphenols like tea, green tea and coffee, none of them with milk or any protein like cream because they will destroy the benefit of the antioxidants. You do this a couple of times everyday, considering your tea to be sweetened ambrosia, and you will find that as a comfort drink it really is extremely helpful and helpful in the cognitive areas particularly. And that to a typical daily vitamin pill and you will be way ahead of the game if you are smart enough to make it habit.

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TL500 in reply toMarionP

What about MCT oil?

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MarionP in reply toTL500

I'm not competent in that area. I can only guess and it is not an educated guess. My guess would be there is a trade-off with both fatty acids whose chains are too short, and those with chains that are too long. Chains that are too short are too easily oxidized and allow for free radicals to form. Chains that are too long are so hard to metabolize that they can stress your immune system and eventually your immune system may respond by adding oxidative stress, triggering into apoptosis, or triggering cancer. Apoptosis can be good or bad depending on which are programmed to die, it's not so good if they are mitochondria. Both are mere guesses on my part maybe somebody else can illuminate and make better corrections. I have no idea how dopamine might be related or what might involve the blood-brain barrier. Triglycerides are more a matter of cardiovascular health and cerebral vascular and neurological health, and therefore they affect aging in general, if they rip up or even irritate the inner walls of blood vessels then to create targets for T cells to identify and cytokine inflammation and scarring occurs, oxidation and that all goes into aging, not particularly specific to PD. Like I said, I'm ignorant on the actual mechanisms and therefore prone to errors so I really don't like speculating too much in this area about how diet modifies blood lipids and all that. A cardiologist and internist would probably be the ones to say.

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TL500 in reply toMarionP

Wow too much for me to understand. I appreciate your info.

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MarionP in reply toTL500

Just do the tea without milk and coffee without milk everyday to the extent you can. Best thing for you, good for your brain, pretty well established in the research journals. That's all you need to know and that's not hard. Sweeten it anyway you like, or not, just don't do the milk with tea or coffee, and if you can handle green tea, use that instead of black tea. And really that's all you need to know. Easy peasy.

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MarionP in reply toevenshoshan

Good for you you are a wise beyond your years.

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A lot. I used to drink it with cream before I became aware of the chemistry behind what milk and cream does, it destroys the antioxidant benefits of coffee. Caffeine is only one of the ingredients in coffee, but you're really drinking coffee for is all the polyphenols, the antioxidants, which milk destroys just as it does in tea. What I do is I just add sugar to taste then it's really not so bad and the benefits from the polyphenols is very much worth the trouble, very very much worth it. And taking that way, straight with a little bit of sugar to taste is really a comfort drink as well. Increases your cognition and your intelligence and that was known about caffeine in general 50 years ago when one of my supervisors who was a psychiatrist happened to mention it, I have some straight up and this was back in 1981, can you think of any particular benefit of caffeine, and he said it increases your IQ.. But really for what we want today here at Hu in the Parkinson's and other dementing groups, it's the polyphenols, those little antioxidants that you need it for and it's invaluable. Drink green tea the same way, if you don't like it by itself then have a little sugar but in any case don't add anything bearing protein like milk or cream.

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TL500 in reply toMarionP

Does sugar make the antioxidant less effective? Nowadays the functional medicine people say to cut sugar?

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MarionP in reply toTL500

Sugar is not great but only if you are excessive about it. Yes sugar stimulates oxidation now oxidation is not good. Bleaching is oxidation for example. Sugar erodes the inner linings of your arteries, sugar should not be something that is stays very much in your blood for very long, it needs to be transported out and used, and so it just depends if you are not active enough then you can have too much sugar in your blood, again affected by a diet if you have too much sugar in your diet, which is extremely easy to do, and so all that is tied up & twirled up with diabetes and insulin resistance and whether you're overweight or not and get enough exercise or not and the balance between whole foods and processed foods, and that includes sugar. It's a very big subject but yes you should be avoiding sugars and foods that are highly processed and that's 2 prongs of the same issue so you have to do both, cut down as much as possible with sugars no matter the source, and cut down as much as possible the highly processed foods, no matter the source... So that awesome did you have to work from processed and whole foods. Which means if you're not familiar with it you have to do some homework but it's worth it because if you don't you're almost certain to have more aging, which I think we generally refer to a senility in general, senility is another word for aging, and when you go downhill to where you lose touch with things or was touch or control of yourself, and the source is mental, then decline past a certain point we call it dementia, less mind and losing mind... and sooner, than you would otherwise, earlier and more aging sooner than otherwise. It's less of an issue for PD specifically and really more about aging in general and dementias particularly and also because sugar and processed foods stimulate your immune system to attack your own body (oxidation) and that leads to things like arteriosclerosis, heart disease, chronic neurological inflammation issues which creates oxidation and then scarring and narrowing in your arteries including those arteries in your brain, and your own immune system attacking and creating scars in your own system, and all of these things just simply make you age faster and more than otherwise, and then anything that goes along with aging happens faster and sooner and that's what we know about sugars (and alcohol, which acts roughly like sugars). So yes, you cut down or cut out things like fruit juices, too many fruits especially this really sweet ones, sugar itself, foods that are processed with a lot of sugar, cereals, breads, other such carbohydrates like pasta, potato chips, other salty snack foods, other sweet snacks like kicks and cookies etc. It takes awhile to get the hang of it and you can have some just not too much. Fewer popsicles, fewer desserts, get the idea, it doesn't really matter where the sugar comes from, sugar is sugar as far as the body is concerned. But that is general aging and cardiovascular health and disease, this is the PD string. It's not hard to learn these things, you just have to be curious and start reading things on the internet and I'm looking into where it takes you, using your own natural critical sense so you can sort of begin to separate wheat from chaff, and make it a long-term learning thing. Use your common sense, it's not too much to handle, it's just say you're going on a long slow trip and it will unfold as you go.

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BH68

Big cafetière of ground coffee in the mornings. Green tea afternoons.

Caffeine, polyphenols - but also the fibre in the ground coffee sorts out my constipation.

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MellowYellowcup

flat white 10am ( having read this thread I need to move to Long Black, maybe with honey?)

White T in pm ( ditto )

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gomelgo

I can't imagine how sky high my anxiety would go if I drank anything with caffeine in it.

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MarionP in reply togomelgo

Have green tea, there's almost no stimulant in it. And white tea, even less. Green and white teas are all benefit.

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