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Anti-Inflammatory Diet (AID) for Parkinson's

One thing we read a lot about is healing the gut to heal our health. Can we fix our microbiome? This led me to The Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD). This diet was designed to fix IBS by lowering inflammation. You can read all about it here: pecanbread.com/p/index.html

I've been following the SCD (combined with the Wahl's Protocol and Gluten Free) for about a year. Not full on following them, just trying to stick to the gluten free foods that are allowed on SCD or Wahl's. This gives me a little more choice.

There is some evidence that the SCD can normalize your microbiome if you still have all the needed bacteria: The Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD): The SCD has been shown to normalize the microbiome in people with Crohn's ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/a... and UC. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/a...

Today I stumbled upon another Anti-Inflammatory diet called the "Anti-Inflammatory Diet for IBD (IBD-AID)". If I may steal from their web site:

The IBD-AID was derived (and updated) from the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD), and is a nutritional regimen that is based on:

1. Promoting the beneficial, anti-inflammatory intestinal bacteria with:

○ Vegetables & Fruit

○ Soluble Fiber (steel-cut oats, ground flax seed, lentils, beans)

○ Good protein & fats (beans, nuts, olive oil, avocado, ground flaxseed, fish, soy)

○ Probiotics (yogurt, kefir, miso, kimchi, sauerkraut, local honey)

○ Prebiotics (artichokes, leeks, asparagus)

2. And decreasing the pro-inflammatory intestinal bacteria by eliminating certain carbohydrates, such as:

○ Refined sugars and certain starches

○ Grains (steel-cut and rolled oats are allowed)

○ Lactose (anything containing milk or cream)

These carbohydrates are thought to provide a food for pro-inflammatory bacteria.

3. Together, the foods in this diet decrease bowel inflammation, aid in the repair of the gut, and help to restore balance to the immune system.

I like about this IBD-AID is that this is an update to the Specific Carbohydrate Diet intended to treat the same condition as the SCD was designed to treat (IBD). Pediatrician Sydney Haas, MD, created the Specific Carbohydrate Diet in the 1920s to treat celiac disease. Elaine Gottschall, a biochemist and the mother of one of Haas's patients, made the diet more widely known in 1987 when she treated her daughter's IBD using the SCD and then published Breaking the Vicious Cycle: Intestinal Health through Diet. There has been a lot of research done in the last 35 years. It is time for an update. This updated diet came from the UMASS Chan Medical School. They are well respected.

One other thing I like about this IBD-AID is that it includes oats. Oats are gluten free and I like them.

So here is the UMass Chan Medical School Center for Applied Nutrition Anti-Inflammatory Diet for IBD (IBD-AID): umassmed.edu/nutrition/ibd/...

And here is a link to the IBD-AID Allowable Food List: umassmed.edu/globalassets/n...

I am going to try this diet. I may start at phase 3 as I am already doing well on the Bristol Scale AND you need to be at phase 3 to have broccoli sprouts. I have to have my sprouts.

I am making one tweak to this diet. Sour cream is not allowed. Aged cheeses and yogurt and kefir are allowed. Well... I found this study: Intake of Fermented Dairy Products Induces a Less Pro-Inflammatory Postprandial Peripheral Blood Mononuclear Cell Gene Expression Response than Non-Fermented Dairy Products: A Randomized Controlled Cross-Over Trial: sci-hub.se/10.1002/mnfr.202...

According to this trial, fermented dairy products are less pro-inflammatory than non-fermented dairy products. They compared fermented products (cheese and sour cream) with non-fermented products (butter and whipped cream). "In this study, we have shown that intake of a high-fat meal composed of fermented dairy products, and especially cheese, has a less pro-inflammatory effect than intake of the non-fermented butter and whipped cream". It's not a slam dunk, but it is enough for me to cut out butter (which is allowed on the SCD) and keep my sour cream.

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SilentEchoes

Great post! A couple of comments; butter is high in K2, this is needed to metabolize Vit. D. The better thing to do is substitute Ghee, this is lactose free.

Oats are high in beta-glucans, this is good.

People with NDD should avoid all MSG, there are naturally occurring forms - parmesan cheese is high in MSG and I am completely intolerant.

Other nutritional sources to look at is Chris Beat Cancer and Green Smoothie Girl. I also really like Dr. Berg's videos.

SE

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Bolt_Upright in reply to SilentEchoes

So now I have learned that if you are trying to be Gluten free you should avoid oats. Some people with Celiac can tolerate oats. Some can't. I am not going to mess around and take a chance. No more oats for me :(

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AmyLindy in reply to SilentEchoes

Dr Berg - I concur w his views

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Bolt_Upright in reply to AmyLindy

There is only one opinion I trust completely. Unfortunately, for me, it is my own.

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LindaP50

Reducing inflammation is good for everyone's health. Many diseases are affected by inflammation. Here's one list I found: progesteronetherapy.com/lis...

Because I have a thyroid disease we try to eat some gluten free foods. Bread is a killer for me - gain weight. Couldn't find a tasty gluten free bread so gave up on that - now I just try to reduce my bread intake daily. We do gluten free pastas and use gluten free flour. Try our best not to eat process foods and reduce our intake of sugar (have made some tasty Keto desserts).

I didn't know parmesan cheese was high in MSG. Love the stuff. Ok, will try to use less but not give it totally up.

I'm saving your post to read in depth when I have more time. Thanks for sharing.

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Bolt_Upright in reply to LindaP50

I have thyroid issues too. Hashimoto's.

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park_bear in reply to Bolt_Upright

Recommended reading: amazon.com/gp/product/B01AU...

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Bolt_Upright in reply to park_bear

Thank you PB! I will look into this.

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AmyLindy in reply to Bolt_Upright

Same👻

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slimweiss in reply to LindaP50

Not sure if you live near a Trader Joe’s but I really like their gluten free bread. Pretty tasty.

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AmyLindy in reply to LindaP50

Same. Hashimotos + PD. Follow Isabella Wentz PharmD

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Bolt_Upright in reply to AmyLindy

Her site is interesting. I can never figure out if iodine is the cure or if it is poison.

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Bolt_Upright in reply to Bolt_Upright

I did have some seaweed tonight. I heard you need iodine if eating sprouts.

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xy-zt in reply to Bolt_Upright

Hashimoto's +PD and I still can't decide on the Iodine either.

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Bolt_Upright in reply to xy-zt

We should have a group just for Hashimoto's + PD :(

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mblongdon in reply to LindaP50

you might want to do alittle research on sourdough bread. it has to be done correctly. i.e. no yeast and fermented at least 12 hrs. i have pd and hashi. i handled the hashi with diet. i have no problem wiith correctly prepared sourdough.

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Bolt_Upright in reply to mblongdon

You handled the Hashi with diet? Which diet? How well did you handle it? I would like to stop my Levoxyl.

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mblongdon in reply to Bolt_Upright

I totally understand. I found a chiropractic physician that specialized in Endocrinology. The clinic followed Dr. Datis Kharrazian. He wrote the book "why do I still have thyroid symptoms when my lab tests are normal?". I was pretty much a mess when I found them. I was hyper at the time and had just had surgery. It was work but it was a great result and I never had to take any drugs except to slow my heartbeat down for maybe three weeks. I still take the supplements he put me on and that was eight years ago. I do blood tests once a year just to make sure everything's where it needs to be. If you're interested I believe they will do consultations long distant or you could just check out the book

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LindaP50 in reply to mblongdon

Sounds like a good idea!

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heal3124 in reply to LindaP50

I've been doing gluten free pastas - but with all the emphasis on gluten free, I stopped reading the label for carbs. Big mistake. Most of the pastas have 44 grams of carb per serving with maybe 3-4 grams of protein. Awful! And since I tend to eat very simple meals, I usually have larger servings of a few ingredients - which means maybe 70 grams of carbs per serving. I don't know what to do since these pastas really take care of my bread/pasta cravings.

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LindaP50 in reply to heal3124

I'm sure you don't eat pasta every day. The gluten free pasta satisfies me and I don't go for 2nds. When I want bread, I'll have a slice of Sara Lee's 45 calorie bread. One slice. Not every day.

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HekateMoon

Thank u Bolt. I must try this. Plus i have a recipe for rolled oats bread that is really nice...

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Bolt_Upright in reply to HekateMoon

So now I have learned that if you are trying to be Gluten free you should avoid oats. Some people with Celiac can tolerate oats. Some can't. I am not going to mess around and take a chance. No more oats for me :(

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AmyLindy in reply to Bolt_Upright

I’m screwed. Can’t get full on fake carbs- gotta have oats 😆 just got labs drawn Friday-let’s see how my Celiac Markers look 👀

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Bolt_Upright in reply to AmyLindy

I may keep oats depending on how I feel. I am still on the fence on them.

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AmyLindy in reply to Bolt_Upright

“Steel cut” oats - not sure why the distinction. Have to read up on it!

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Bolt_Upright

So now I have learned that if you are trying to be Gluten free you should avoid oats. Some people with Celiac can tolerate oats. Some can't. I am not going to mess around and take a chance. No more oats for me :(

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Trixiedee in reply to Bolt_Upright

You can get gluten free oats

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Bolt_Upright in reply to Trixiedee

I have not been diagnosed with Celiac, but have read that not all people with Celiac can tolerate oats.

Also, I did have some oats yesterday. I think they might be binding me up :)

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HekateMoon

There is always quinoa and buckwheat...buckwheat, like quinoa, are semi grains. With buckwheat one can make lovely tortilla wraps. Dont know if that would suit. Ill keep the rolled oats for now. Or maybe go for gluten free oats. My diet is lots of fruit and veg some fermented suff, with blue fish and organic ducks eggs. I intent to tackle inflammation too...sick of pains flaring up when im doing well otherwise. Good luck, Bolt.

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heal3124 in reply to HekateMoon

I thought i'd go that route too, but it turns out they are high in lectins....

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LAJ12345

We’ve mainly been sticking to that. We also have a meal plan of meat, vegetarian, fish, vegetarian, and I feel like that kind of purges the bowel every second day. When we eat like this hubby seems to do best. Sometimes we might have a few days of meat in a row due to visitors for dinner or going out for dinner (can’t convince him to choose vegetarian when out, he goes full big breakfast on me!) and he seems to feel worse after that.Vegetarian is usually beans , chickpeas, lentils , vegetables rather than lots of egg or cheese.

I think it might help out the bacteria and stop the bad ones getting hold. Or maybe the beans act as a bottle brush through the system.

Warning, gross story:

One weird thing that happened to me when we went on this diet was I decided to go dairy free for a while and see how I felt and went about 2 weeks then one day I had the most enormous bowel movement that went on and on. My whole stomach went so flat it was concave. I was a bit worried I’d killed off all my dairy loving bacteria. Definitely it purged something there that was bloating me. My stomach has stayed quite flat and I eat dairy again so it didn’t seem to hurt me at all, although I think I am a bit over sensitive to either histamines or salicylates or something now so now sure if that is something to do with it or whether it’s just I eat more beans etc now.

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Skidad

My understanding is that gluten is bad (inflammatory) only for the 1% of the population that have celiac disease.

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Bolt_Upright in reply to Skidad

I have read that some people think anybody with an autoimmune condition should go gluten free. PD may be autoimmune. It is far from settled science. Here is an article: nikkiyeltonrd.com/is-a-glut...

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Skidad

Bolt -- thanks. I appreciate your reply, which sheds a more tentative light on the supposed beneficial effects of a gluten-free diet (GFD) than your initial posting did. You noted that "some people think" that a GFD might be helpful to persons with PD. The article you linked -- written by a dietician, with a paucity of cites to scientific studies -- was not, in my view, very persuasive.

I think anyone considering whether to adopt a GFD should be aware that there are studies, and medical opinion, suggesting that a GFD may be unnecessary for anyone who doesn't suffer from celiac disease -- and may even be detrimental to one's health. See:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

mindbodygreen.com/articles/... (note: the author of this article is trying to sell his services, so discount accordingly)

On a more general note, I am more a consumer than a producer of content for this HU site. But you, Bolt, are a voracious researcher, digestor, an reporter of information that is potentially helpful (and hopeful) for PWP. Please keep it up!

Thanks,

Jim (Skidad)

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Bolt_Upright in reply to Skidad

Thank's Skidad. I appreciate your feedback. I knew my reference was fairly weak. Sometimes I get lazy.

I am not continuing this to argue. Just for the benefit of anybody else reading it.

I am still being lazy, so going off the top of my head here:

One issue PWP have is an out of balance microbiome. The Specific Carbohydrate Diet, in very limited studies, has been shown to normalize the microbiome in patients with Crohn's and IBS. The SCD is gluten free (gluten free is not the only characteristic of the SCD.

Dr Terry Wahls diet for MS is also gluten free.

Dr Amy Myers protocol for autoimmune disease is also gluten free.

Dr Perlmutter's book The Grain Brain is gluten free also.

I don't removing gluten is the magic bullet. I think of gluten as a variable that has much more risk than benefit. I don't believe the people that say we need gluten. I am 62 years old, so I have lived through most of the lies the government/establishment has told us about foods. A majority of dieticians still believe those lies. It takes a long time to turn a large ship.

Anyway, always remember that I only have a High School Degree and am prone to error :)

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heal3124 in reply to Bolt_Upright

You may be prone to error, but so are many many doctors - and their mistakes are way more impactful....

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