Vitamin D accociation to lower dealth rate Coronavirus

[MarionP]

Interesting

techexplorist.com/vitamin-d...

[rescuema]

Not surprising, but I wonder what other correlations they found and how the data was collected.

I hope they make more effort to find additional links with other vitamins and minerals, not just for covid-19 but as we move forward for standard health screening. I have to pay $150 each time I want to test for vitamin D test because my health insurance won't cover it nor other vitamin tests here in the US.

[MarionP in reply to rescuema]

I think you just take a decent amount of daily oral supplement, proper fish oil or the pill variety of D3, the idea is to just not have a deficiency I would guess.

As with the others we have learned about, C, B (probably just take the whole complex),

And especially zinc and copper in their proportions, see rescuema for the proper proportions...avoid PPI anti-acids except for Prevacid...and zinc you can get anytime from cocoa powder so make yourself some hot chocolate or get some brazil nuts...I do the hot chocolate because I like it and it's cheap...this is for everybody not just for the person I respond to in the string.

Also I checked on if you are on something to quell clots, like those of us with heart disease prescribed to just take a quarter-grain aspirin every day, and of course those with more powerful prescribed anti-clotters...just stay with them!!!!!!

If you are on a PPI except for Prevacid for some reason, the idea is that these reduce absorption of the key oral micronutrients in your stomach, so either dose up or try to maybe make the PPI more occasional, which is what i am doing with my Prilosec, so more of the key things get absorbed.

Not a bad thing to learn how to survive this way...since everything is a gamble anyway, why not?

Rescuema, anything I've left out please fill in, so at least we can keep having people to argue with. If any of them die off, it is more boring.

Tra-la!

[rescuema in reply to MarionP]

Unfortunately, it's not so simple to just "supplement."

Everyone has different level of absorption, and while some only need to supplement 400 IU of vitamin D3, other may have to supplement 2000 - 5000IU or more to maintain around 50ng/mL of vitamin D. Eating too many brazil nuts (some very high in selenium) could get you too toxic very quick and affect your iodine level. My hair mineral analysis showed I was very high on selenium, and very low on some other minerals, so that told me to cut back on selenium while I had to supplement extra on other minerals. That was after supplementing very high quality multiviatmins on rotation. It's not easy to blindly supplement without testing to check your levels. With many supplements, overdosing is just as bad as deficiency.

[Rhyothemis in reply to rescuema]

You can purchase a Vitamin D test from Life Extension for around $45; the blood draw is done at a Lab Corp location (I have one just down the street at Walgreens). I have used some of their other tests & the process was always very quick and easy. There are also at home D tests (finger prick), but they are more expensive; I did a quick search and I see one from 'healthconfirm' for $79. I have no experience with the company. Personally I think blood draws are easier than self-administered finger pricks, but I don't want to leave my house right now.

[rescuema in reply to Rhyothemis]

Thanks Rhyothemis. I just checked and the test is on sale for only $35 at Life Extension. That's the lowest cost I've seen! I’ve been taking 5000 IU D3 daily (or skip a day) for a while and suspect that I could be overdosing so I'm going to try the test. I might try their other tests such as thyroid and Chemistry/CBC too.

I've looked into others such as mylabsforlife.com and healthlabs.com that offer the test for around $60 but never actually tried them. I'm always shocked that my annual physical costs me around $500 for some very basic checks on top of what my expensive insurance would cover, but just went with the hospital lab tests for the convenience.

lifeextension.com/lab-testi...

[glenandgerry in reply to rescuema]

I also take 5000iu D3 per day (I don't have PD) & also eat 2-3 brazil nuts most days. What are the effects of overdosing?

[Rhyothemis in reply to glenandgerry]

Vitamin D toxicity:

lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vit...

Selenium toxicity:

lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/min...

medicalnewstoday.com/articl...

[Rhyothemis in reply to rescuema]

There are people in the life-extension community who sometimes rag on Bill Falloon (founder of Life Extension Foundation) for being a a shyster, but overall I think he is a good guy and really wants to help people. Making lab testing more accessible has been a good thing. Just don't buy their overpriced olive oil... (Whole Foods California EVOO & California Olive Ranch Everyday seem to have a lot of oleocanthal, based on taste).

[rescuema in reply to Rhyothemis]

You got me curious. Did you try it and was it not up to par? I checked their California Estate Organic EVOO and the price actually isn't too bad if it's a genuine organic EVOO and the reveiws look good. I've paid much more for real deal EVOO in the past, but just settled with Bertolli's Organic EVOO for local shopping convenience and everyday cooking.

[Rhyothemis in reply to rescuema]

Actually, I probably should not have used that example as I did not try their EVOO as I was put off by the price. But Whole Foods 365 California EVOO is enough to induce a really bad coughing and sputtering fit if I don't take it with enough food, so I figure that is my upper tolerable limit for oleocanthal anyway and it is much cheaper (or was much cheaper; I have not been to the store in quite a while and I can't get WF delivery in my area). If it appeals to you, please do try it and let me know how it compares.

[park_bear]

Study here:

link.springer.com/article/1...

No surprise but good to have evidence.

[Rhyothemis in reply to park_bear]

Not surprising, especially since low Vitamin D status is linked to all types of ARDS, not just from infections but also traumatic injury.

[MarionP in reply to Rhyothemis]

Very interesting!!

[rescuema in reply to park_bear]

Very crude mean association as I suspected but still means something. I was hoping that they actually tested the vulnerable/infected for deficiencies, but doubted they would have.

[WinnieThePoo]

I understand it to be a common problem for people with PD to have low vitamin D. I tested low and my GP recommend supplementation. And that in spite of the fact I get a lot of sun exposure. When my dad (who has PD too) was seriously ill in hospital following a bowel resection which went wrong i insisted they test his vitamin d levels which were vanishingly low. Both of us now supplement and monitor

[glenandgerry in reply to WinnieThePoo]

How do you monitor? Is there an easy way without the expense of having to pay for a private blood test?

[WinnieThePoo in reply to glenandgerry]

I get a blood test. The vitamin D test costs me 9 euros and is an extra to the (otherwise) comprehensive test which is free

[glenandgerry in reply to WinnieThePoo]

You're very lucky to be able to pay so little in France

[MarionP in reply to glenandgerry]

Doesn't matter, the idea is just to not have a deficiency. So just eat up & don't worry. Exposed to sunlight, a healthy naked body can generate many thousands of IU in less than a half hour. So eat up & don't worry about it.

PS Also: 10-20 mg melatonin per day can't hurt, and may just make a big, critical difference. If you live, you can take issue with me all day long.

[Icenae in reply to MarionP]

Apparently older people do not process vit d through the skin well. I was vit d deficient in october after a summer of garden and bowling.

[LAJ12345 in reply to MarionP]

Here in New Zealand in winter we are too far south to be able to generate vitd in winter so need to supplement as it peters out. Maybe why we are having success with covid as we have just come out of summer.

We take hardys daily Essential nutrients which has all the above vitamins, Zinc, copper, magnesium etc all in one!

[MarionP in reply to LAJ12345]

Oh, well golly good for you, did you bring enough for everybody?

[LAJ12345 in reply to MarionP]

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[Gioc]

There is also a correlation between low Vitamin D levels and PM10 pollution. According to a recent Italian study, there is a correlation between the areas most affected by the virus and air pollution.

[asmckay]

A really interesting article. Thanks Marion. I checked against today's figures for deaths - still stacks up - posted on Facebook facebook.com/zeezsleeppebbl...