I’m wondering about getting testing done for mould spores. Has anyone looked into this before?
Mould. Has anyone had testing for this? - Cure Parkinson's
Mould. Has anyone had testing for this?
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I've been tested and treated for mood toxicity.
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I have been tested and treated for exposure to mold and that is what gave me Parkinson’s symptoms! I had to Grt the mold professionally removed - yet I could still nit tolerate the house!
The insurance company fixed it and I sold it! I could never tolerate the house again. Find a doctor who will check you for mold. My doctor tested all her patients ( ones with Parkinson’s and/or chronic fatigue and-/ or fibromyalgia and 80%.had been exposed to mold. Parkinson’s is a syndrome - my doctor suspects that s lot of Parkinson’s is exposure to mold and chemicals,.find someone to test you and test your house!
If you choose to test your home rather than yourself, it looks like it would be rather inexpensive to do so :
homedepot.com/p/Mold-Armor-...
Art
I think that’s per sample then you have to pay the lab to make sense of it I think and that is the expensive bit. I think anyone can grow mould in a Petri dish whether or not it’s a problem. The company I approached charge about $2000 to take samples, do moisture tests, analyse results and recommend how to fix any problems.
Homeowners insurance used to cover mold incidence fully and readily, but it seems as of late they are more resistant to do so because most mold abatement companies are quite expensive and the techniques they use for mold abatement are quite costly. I saw a home where they were doing mold remediation and there was plastic sheeting walls everywhere in the house as they tried to compartmentalize the areas with mold while running air scrubbers, turbine floor fans and treating the moldy areas. The air scrubbers which have HEPA filtration are quite expensive and the turbine floor fans are charged for each one that is used so these companies do not scrimp when it comes to using air scrubbers or floor turbine fans as these are easy money makers for them.
Art
And of course if you are going to get tested for mold exposure, knowing some common symptoms to look for would be helpful to try and determine if the problem is mold. Here is a link to a list of common symptoms related to mold exposure :
moldpedia.com/mold-symptoms...
When I have known the source of mold exposure in a house, I have used 3% hydrogen peroxide that I use to make a saturated solution of borax in and this combination is a very potent antifungal and mold killer in your home that has relatively low toxicity to people and animals and almost no smell, malodor or fumes. Bleach can only kill and bleach what is on the surface, but HP/Borax can penetrate below the surface to neutralize the mold that can't be seen. It can be applied via a spray bottle very easily and the borax has staying power meaning the residue can also negatively impact future mold!
Art
That’s interesting. Both my husband and son always have hay fever type symptoms. (He is 14). There is no mould visible but the house is an old wooden villa and low to the ground and it’s hard to insulate under it. We have done a lot of work renovating old buildings which included pulling out old wall linings which sometimes had black dust in them. Maybe mould?
There is no visible sign of mould on walls so I wouldn’t know where to take samples from. Any problem would be from air coming in from underneath or inside walls somehow. It’s certainly not growing on walls.
Yes, sometimes it can be under the house in the crawl space or in ducting, plenum, or cold air return cavity for the HVAC system which of course none of it can be readily seen. Sometimes on a raised foundation it can be old mold on the subframe or subfloor under a sink, tub, a shower or toilet that previously leaked, grew mold and the mold is still there and active. The leak may have been fixed a time ago, but the mold that got started and is not readily visible, may still be there, unknown to anybody.
Another possible problem, area is the attic. Sometimes a roof will leak when it is warn out and mold can start to grow on the wood framing or in the attic insulation which can act as a sponge and become a breeding ground for mold. The roofers may not be able to see this mold and consequently it remians long after they have replaced the roof!
Art
We don’t really have ducting and air conditioning like a US house here. The heat pump doesn’t duct anywhere but mould may be under the floor as there is not much crawl space and just dirt under with no plastic barrier or insulation under the floor boards. I know the bathroom next door must have leaked at some point as when we pulled it out there was rotten wood to fix. The old skirting boards used to get mould on them in winter but since then we have removed the wall linings and insulated and replaced the skirting boards and they don’t seem to do it any more. It may have got spores in the carpet I suppose as we pulled that back and relaid it as it seemed undamaged and it was quite new.
A heat pump is very similar to an air conditioner except that the heat pump takes the heat it removes from the air and introduces it into the interior of the house as warmer air, but I imagine, like small window and wall AC units, it is capable of growing a significant amount of mold also under the right conditions.
Art
I don’t think there is anywhere inside for condensation to form and cause mould though. We only use it on heating and any moisture forms on the outside unit and drips outside. The inside part has warm pipes and grills to distribute the heat but they wouldn’t grow mould I wouldn’t think? It doesn’t have any ducting run from it.
I've been thinking about your situation and maybe it is easier and less expensive to have your husband tested for mold/fungus/candida rather than the house, especially if your medical insurance will cover it. If he tests positive, then the house needs to be tested and you should check with your insurance carrier to see what they will cover as far as your dwelling, but if he tests negative, then no need to consider the house or mold as a problem any more.
Art
Thanks. Do you know what the actual tests I need to ask for are please? Insurance won’t cover any of these things I wouldn’t think. Our house insurance excludes gradual damage which would include mould I think. Health insurance or public health system might if the doctor refers him but I have to get him to the doctor which is no mean feat as he hates to bother them and doesn’t like suggesting things to the doctor as he feels it’s not his business as the dr knows best and the doctor hasn’t suggested it so far.
It’s more like “you have PD, take the meds the neurologist gave you and I’ll see you when you need a renewal unless you get worse.” Anything else is “untested science “ bordering on witchcraft😕 as far as the doctor is concerned. Initially I gave him all the test result in advance and asked to book a double appointment so he could have time to look through them but don’t think he really even looked at them. I think I’m blacklisted as a troublesome patient now as the receptionist gets a bit funny when I try and make appointments now.
Perhaps you can send an email to the doctor explaining the situation with your husband and why you think mold may be an issue with him. That takes a little pressure off of asking while you are in his office and he can take his time to consider and reply at his convenience. If you give a good explanation of why you suspect mold, he may be able to make a reasonable determination from your description.
Art
Hi Art. I did try that approach a while back, when I provided copies of tests in advance and asking to book 2 appointments so he had time to read them and discuss with him. But he didn’t read them and wasn’t interested really. I think GPS are just used to being in a rush and diagnosing common acute problems and aren’t used to looking at anything out of their experience.
If I ask for specific tests he may order them though as he is very pleasant and seems to want to appease us. What would I ask him for?
The link below has some very relevant information regarding mold and other indoor pollutants as well as types of tests that can be considered and symptoms to look for. Quite interesting reading.
chriskresser.com/5-things-y...
Art
Aargh! This all seems very complex. I am not sure if the mould testing outfits here. Even test the right things according to this. Perhaps it’s better to buy the air purifier just in case and assume the worst and save money on testing. Hubby has lots of the symptoms but of course they are also symptoms of lots of other things too. We don’t have any signs of mould or dampness in the house.
Hi! We had mold in the crawlspace under our house that made me sick. It was caused by a hole in the foundation that allowed moisture to get in, and mold soon followed. We've lived in our house for 16 years. To test for mold and remediate our house, we followed the Shoemaker Protocol (survivingmold.com). My doctor, Dr. ErIc Potter, of Sanctuary Functional Medical (sanctuaryfunctionalmedicine... followed the Shoemaker Protocol for my detox as well. Insurance has not covered anything except an air quality test and some of my blood work. It's been a little over a year and a half since my healing journey began. I still have a long road ahead, but I have hope. Not everyone with PD suffers from mold toxicity, but especially for those, like me, diagnosed with YOPD, it's worth looking into. I'm praying for everyone on this thread. God is good!
Thanks for that. Are you in the US?
Yes, Nashville, TN
Hey, I visited there a few years ago when my nephew married a girl from there😊
The Shoemaker Protocol is used widely in NC
#trishtheteacher @trishtheteacher Did you test positive on the interesting visual test via computer ? VCS
The VCS test didn't work on me. Bloodwork showed mold toxicity.
Hello everyone,
Diagnosed CFS sufferer here in the U.K. although I'm more swayed toward believing I might be suffering from Mold Toxicity after reading Neil Nathan's book 'Heal your Body'
90% of my symptoms suggest Mold poisoning but I'm yet to find a place that will test me.
The NHS website will give a little information but won't point to any services.
This leaves anyone looking for help stumped and having to hunt around for information :/
It's always damp outside where we live with moss growing on our roof tiles and footpaths nearly all year round. We get a musty smell coming through the upstairs windows but I'm yet to find where it's coming from.
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