Inflammation and dairy products. A person that I trust told me yesterday that I should stop ingesting dairy products. The proposed rationale is reducing inflammation Aside from dairy that is component of processed foods, the only dairy I consume is yogurt. Have any of you cut out dairy and experienced benefit?
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Inflammation and dairy products
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I have totally cut dairy products for 2 years with no side effects as far as I can see.
I have also eliminated all dairy from my diet starting about 1.5 years ago. While I can't make a direct connection that it has helped specifically with any PD symptoms, I do feel better overall. I did a lot of reading before stopping dairy, and the data is pretty consistent that dairy consumption is not good for those of us with PD or even the "healthy" general population.
The most interesting data I saw on diet was a presentation by Laurie Mischley. The comment about dairy is at 10.54 in the video, but its worth watching from the start of the video to there. It refers to foods which statistically in her pro-PD study are correlated with faster or slower PD progression. Although 6 separate studies associated Dairy with faster progression, her study concluded Dairy is neutral.
parkiepedia.com/the-best-di...
I quote, from her quote from parkinsons.org,
“While there is no prescription for a PD-specific diet, to maintain overall good health most people living with Parkinson’s disease should eat a variety of whole grains, vegetables, fruits, milk and dairy products, and protein-rich foods such as meat and beans.”
In this PD alternative world are the keto fans, one of whom swears by full fat cream (grass fed) youtube.com/watch?v=5sYClVQ...
I could be keto, gluten free, dairy free, low carb - I like Laurie Mischley's balanced mediterranean diet, with my fruit , fresh vegatables, fish and nuts. A bit of dairy. Easy on the beef. Grill instead of fry. I switched from canned pineapple to fresh for my breakfast bowl. Plenty of probiotic and prebiotic foods.
Hi Winnie!
Yes, she is right. Moderation is the key, body needs all the nutrients in MODERATION! We don't consume dairy, but I do consume Organic Kefir and full fat yogurt, Greek style.
There are some food that turns into a you / me debate between nations. Yogurt is one of them. Let's first look for the answer to the question of who invented yogurt in reliable encyclopedias: "The world famous and respected Encyclopaedia Britannica states that although there are many stories about the execution of yogurt, it may have come from Turks. Another famous publication, the Oxford English Dictionary, writes that the word yogurt and its products are of Turkish origin since 1937. "
I haven't heard of "Turkish" yogurt. 
Just like "Feta" is a famous Greek product.
Other than a little bit of cheese every once in awhile, I also stopped consuming dairy products when I was diagnosed. Like PixelPaul, I can't say for sure that it helped, but I was also convinced by the literature.
I eat plenty of dairy food including unpasteurised cheese, yoghurt and kefir and am very happy with life.
Thank you I occasionally eat/drink kefir also
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Me too. I have a love affair with milk!
Dairy is hard to digest relative to other food. Giving it up will improve the speed of digestion and eliminate a concentrated source of protein allowing C/L to wotk better.
We're talking about milk? The stuff mammals produce to feed their young?
To their infants not grown ups.
And human milk not cows milk. Some people are lactose intolerant and a rarer minority casein intolerant, so like there are some celiacs who benefit from avoiding gluten there is a sizeable minority who benefit from avoiding dairy (except yoghurt). But that doesn't justify generalisation. I am surrounded by fit healthy friends and family eating dairy with no ill effects, and I see no evidence that it is "harder to digest". I digest it just fine, and the live bacteria in yoghurt kefir and unpasteurised cheese keep my microbiome in good shape
Milk and therefore is derivatives are also concentrated sources of pesticides (non-organic) and environmental toxins. Even if you can digest dairy easily I'd think twice about it if you have PD. You may be doing more harm than good.
Thank you
For calves not humans
Are you suggesting my friends and family eating dairy products are calves and not humans?
Heaven forbid! Just remarking that cows produce milk originally for calves. I've been dairy free for 35 years.
I realised that
Cows milk is not that different to human milk, dog milk, or horse milk. The proportions of sugar and protein vary, but the essential elements (and in particular, the trouble makers, lactose and casein) are the same.
I visited my great Auntie Marjorie in her care home, on the way back from the airport. She is 95, and has been dairy unfree in spectacular health for 95 years.
Nearly half sub-continental people are lactose intolerant and so benefit from being dairy free. We are all different
And its worth remembering the origins of probiotic research were Elie Metchnikoff, of the Pasteur Institute, who received a nobel prize for his work, about Bulgarian longevity and fermented dairy products.
Cows milk is got less vitamins and minerals and is not designed for human babies.
Formula milk cannot replace Breast milk companies have tried but failed. The BBC showed the difference between formula and breast milk. It was very educational
• in reply toWinnieThePoo
LOL
Thank you
So, you try it, and see how you feel. That's it. Personally I have absolutely zero problem with dairy, I eat a ton of it and my PD has progressed very, very slowly, five years in, no dopamine replacement needed yet. But I am also on a strict keto diet, so only high fat.
But that's me. Your results may vary!
Try just giving up milk - most every other dairy product is fermented in some way. I gave it up 9 months ago and found I had less bloating and a better response to ER Sinimet.
Bloating is how I got concerned thank you
As a child I was diagnosed with an allergy to milk. Over the next few years I was slowly re-introduced to milk. Eventually, milk didn't bother me at all. However, with Parkinson's, I recently noticed that when I drank milk my PD meds didn't work properly.
After a little research I discovered there is an enzyme in milk that interfers with the workings of my Parkinson's meds.
After taking milk out of my diet I am back to my Parkinson's meds working properly.
Another thing--there is a difference between cream/butter, and milk, and fermented products. It depends whether it is the sugar in dairy you have a problem with or the protein. Butter and heavy cream tends to be OK for most people because that has neither.
Read that dairy promotes PD progression from a reliable resource. Last thing I want is a faster progression! Cutting out dairy except for an occasional ice cream. Kiefur is a hard one to give up.
My concern with dairy is that it is contaminated with phtalates, even organic or grass fed. The cause of contamination is the process of milk collection - "The mechanized milking process uses a lot of plastic components, and the tubing that the milk passes through is known to infect fresh cow’s milk as it passes through. Phthalates are highly fat-soluble, and warm milk with it’s high fat content appears to readily collect phthalate residue."
By the way, phtalates are known to be endocrine disruptors and some companies now are switching to other plastics, hopefully safer ones.
See full article at
My husband has tried giving up milk &/or dairy a few different times to see if it would make a difference for him, but no, it was inconclusive. I scanned these response, and found a few interesting. I noticed, however, that raw milk stored in glass jars was not mentioned. That's how we get our milk.
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