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Power Foods for the Brain | Neal Barnard | TEDxBismarck (this is a good one) 17 mins

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jimcaster

Great information. Thanks for sharing this, Marc!

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faridaro

Important message - toward the end of it he cited a study at the University of Illinois on brisk walking. It is exactly what John Pepper has been advocating - brisk walking starting with 10 min walk 3x week and gradually increasing it to 40 min which lead to the reverse of brain (hippocampus) shrinking.

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moparkie715

Very informative. Thanks for sharing

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WinnieThePoo

Good one Marc

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PixelPaul

Very interesting, great share. Thank you.

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gaga1958

so frustrating to listen to this because there's so much conflicting information. this is the opposite as what dr Perlmutter purports and even on the HU email on 4/22 had an video lecture by dr paul mason about lectins being a cause of PD by traveling up the vagus nerve, is a Keto diet proponent. regardless if the whole vagus nerve thing is true, lectins are shown to cause leaky gut issues and he says lectins are highest in carbs thus he's keto like Perlmutter. I know the part this neal barnard says about saturated fat and cholesterol is directly different to a keto person or even just a low-carber.

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Rhyothemis in reply to gaga1958

If lectin consumption were a risk factor for developing PD, then epidemiological studies would show an association with legume consumption (a major source of lectins in the diet) and increased risk of PD. They opposite has been found - lower risk of PD with increased legume consumption:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

"Dietary patterns with a high intake of fruit, vegetables, legumes, whole

grains, nuts, fish, and poultry and a low intake of saturated fat and a

moderate intake of alcohol may protect against PD. Benefits of a

plant-based dietary pattern including fish to PD merit further

investigation."

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MBAnderson in reply to Rhyothemis

My understanding is that not all lectins are the same, i.e., some are good, some are bad.

Be that as it may, I don't base my dietary decisions on any one study because we can find data, doctors, nutritionists, and scientists who support any and every diet that has ever dribbled out of the mouth of some self-serving health guru and, therefore, when it comes to diet, we are all on our own.

For myself, I've settled on a cheater's version of pescetarian (pesco-vegetarian) except I don't eat shellfish or dairy, which means I will periodically eat meat -- to hedge my bet. We eat fish, vegetables, and salad every day for dinner and for the rest of the day, I have my own smoothie concoction, freshly juiced vegetables, and fruits, nuts, berries, seeds, and the like.

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MBAnderson in reply to MBAnderson

PS.

I agree with low-carb and high-fat, but less trans fat and saturated fat.

I don’t consume alcohol, soft drinks, dairy, pasta, bread (except sprouted grain bread,) sugar or corn syrup, vegetable oil, most lectins, gluten, processed or fried food or anything that comes in a can or box.

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Rhyothemis in reply to MBAnderson

Mostly I go by large epidemiological studies for guidance on diet. Typically I do mostly slow carb, whole-foods plant based with a serving of fish per week and sometimes an egg - that means lots of beans. Resistant starch appears to be very health-promoting. Unfortunately, I recently went overboard on oxalates (beet chips, spinach, swiss chard, buckwheat, black tea, chocolate, strawberries and lots of beans, often all in the same day) and had some flank pain - maybe some crystal in the kidneys (certainly not as painful as what kidney stones are supposed to be) so I've had to alter things a bit and add back in some dairy - gross, but dietary calcium is known to help bind up oxalates in the gut and reduce absorption. I noticed my joint stiffness reduced and my flexibility improved.

I don't believe the stuff some health gurus say about oxalates being the main cause of atherosclerosis and all manner of chronic diseases (all the high oxalate food groups are associated with lower all-cause mortality, even nuts up to an ounce a day), but I do think one can overdo it. I'll probably go back to my previous pattern in a while, but mind my oxalate consumption. On the plus side I found out that lemon juice / citrate has a lot of health benefits. Also, lentils, green peas, blackeyed peas, and lima beans are all low oxalate and I like them.

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MBAnderson in reply to Rhyothemis

I agree, which is why I don't go all in on anyone diet.

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WinnieThePoo in reply to MBAnderson

I go all in on a Mediterranean diet (which is not really a fad diet,but is normal balanced healthy one) well Mediterranean with a bit of Balkan which is doubtless way too much dairy for you guys. But all this microbiome probiotics malarkey kicked off from research into central Europeans living to be a hundred through eating fermented yoghurt and kefir

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MBAnderson in reply to WinnieThePoo

Ha. Best not to offend the micro-biome God too much. She has control over what you get reincarnated as.

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WinnieThePoo in reply to MBAnderson

And of course both strands incorporate the obligatory glass of red wine, from the vineyards I am surrounded by. Only for the colour in the grape juice of course 😁

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JAS9 in reply to Rhyothemis

Yes, if you're having trouble with oxalates, the list of low-oxalate foods is about right. I would add berries and some fruit (there is some disagreement about sugar in fruit, but I think it's fine because it's bound up with a fiber). Also, Asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower, cucumbers; iceberg and Romaine lettuce; radishes, mushrooms, onions (yellow and white); squash (zucchini, acorn, and yellow); red sweet peppers, turnips (root), water chestnuts. Plus white and wild rice and barley. These are all super-low oxalate foods.

You might just need time adjusting to oxalates, and so if you go slow you should gain more bateria that will break it down. Or, there is a chance that you have a more severe gut biome problem like SIBO. If so, just illiminating the problem foods won't cure it, although it might give you a reprieve. So, if you go back to eating a few oxalate-rich foods and you still have problems, there are good online (and sometimes free) specialists who can help you.

Sorry if you lready know this. I can get preachy.

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Despe in reply to MBAnderson

Legumes are good source of L-dopa, not just Fava beans but all beans. I cook Fava beans, Gigantes (version of Lima beans but twice the size), Lentils, Fava beans, Pinto beans, Garbanzo beans, and every bean you can imagine. To remove lectins, I soak them overnight in water with a tsp of baking soda. In the morning I rinse the beans very well and then cook or bake them with lots of olive oil, tomato sauce or bits, parsley, baby carrots, and celery. Voila, Mediterranean diet. :)

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MBAnderson in reply to Rhyothemis

I like that study (probably because it mostly supports what I already believe.)

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JAS9 in reply to gaga1958

I'm with Neal Barnard all the way. Perlmutter, not so much. Other doctors who agree with Barnard: HT Colin Campbell, Michael Greger, Garth Davis, Michael Klaper, Caldwell Esselstyn, Milton Mills, Kristi Funk, Alan Goldhamer, John McDougall, Joel Kahn, Saray Stancic, Joel Fuhrman, Michelle McMacken, Dean Ornish, Anthony Hadj, Beth Lambert, and Nick Delgado.

I don't believe there's any evidence that lectins are causing PD. If there's a study please tell me. Rather, alpha-synuclein clumps are the leading suspect for traveling from the gut to the brain.

So, I'm WFPB but medium carbs and some oil from nuts, seeds, avocados, etc.

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MBAnderson in reply to JAS9

Now, there is a list of references. Every time you post, I inch closer and closer. Probably, someday soon, I'll make the leap.

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JAS9 in reply to MBAnderson

Hahaha... If this will do it, here are more vegan doctors: Pamela Popper, Brooke Goldner, Doug Lisle, Zach Bush, Robert Ostfeld, Matthew Lederman, Alona Puldeand. Many of these have interviews on Youtube.

Finally, Ellsworth Wareham (retired physician and heart surgeon born in 1914 in Texas who died a few months ago at 104. He performed surgery until he was 95.) youtu.be/FX58PyQwrcI

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MBAnderson in reply to JAS9

Pretty compelling.

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MBAnderson in reply to JAS9

So, JAS9, you raise a point I'm not clear about. I understand a/syn does travel up to the brain, but I thought it, in addition, is also produced in the brain??

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Rhyothemis in reply to MBAnderson

A-syn is primarily produced in the brain and in small amounts in some other tissues. A-syn somehow or other gets misfolded and the misfolded form can transform normal a-syn into the misfolded type, sort of like a prion (some debate on this*) . The misfolded type seems to get started in the gut (most cases) and travels along the vagus nerve via axonal transport, transforming normal a-syn on the way up and in the brain. There are probably some cases where the misfolded type first occurs in the brain, as in cases of boxers with repeated TBI who develop PD.

The transport of misfolded a-syn can also go in the opposite direction, from brain to gut:

sciencedaily.com/releases/2...

* prion debate

blogs.discovermagazine.com/...

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MBAnderson in reply to Rhyothemis

Thanks. Good explanation. The prion thing accounts (in part) for some of it occurring in the brain independently.

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2bats

Barnard spends his time emitting Vegan Bullsh*t. I’d ignore it all as it is just propaganda!

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MBAnderson in reply to 2bats

But, how do you really feel?

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2bats in reply to MBAnderson

Sorry if you thought i over-reacted, but Barnard’s softly spoken friendly persuasion conceals a hard agenda to ban meat consumption. It all sounds very plausible, but is founded on bad science and zealotry. I dislike the deception intensely!

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MBAnderson in reply to 2bats

The way we know with absolute certainty he is not trying to ban meat, in addition to it being an absurd and bizarre objective, comparable to banning water, is the same way we know with absolute certainty that big Pharma is not trying to censor anyone on this website and that is, if everybody who ever heard his name and everyone in their family stopped eating meat in the morning, the meat industry wouldn't know the difference.

In substance, however, this is why I said the diet discussion is tricky and that is because there's good data on both sides, of in this instance, the meat issue.

Personally, If I had to choose between the standard American diet and whole plant-based diet, I'd go vegan and that's only because I believe it has a preponderance of good data.

So it's not a question of he or I trying to deceive you, it's a question of our believing we're looking at the data -- thereby inviting people to make healthier choices.

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2bats in reply to MBAnderson

Marika Sboros in FoodMed.net:

Other researchers identify more study weaknesses. One is that the researchers include studies by US physician Dr Neal Barnard. Barnard is a vegan-promoting animal rights activist and, thus, heavily biased. Experts also say that his research has shown, in effect, zero benefit of plant-based diets...

No deception on your part Marc, only Barnard’s ;-)

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Despe in reply to 2bats

Marika Sboros sounds like a Greek name. If she is, she would know Hippocrates philosophy "Everything in moderation." That is my philosophy, too. I grew up eating a variety of foods in moderation, that is the Mediterranean diet.

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MBAnderson in reply to 2bats

Thanks

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Dehlia

Thanks Marc.

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ParlePark

So what’s your take on MCT oil? Everything I’ve read is positive and MCT is saturated fat.

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MBAnderson in reply to ParlePark

We put MCT Oil in our smoothie. I'm not rigid about the saturated fat thing, but I try to be mindful about not getting too much. Maybe somebody knows, I don't, if there's some benefit to PWP from saturated fat that we don't get from unsaturated fat. Even if saturated fat is good for our brain, too much of it is bad for other things.

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ParlePark in reply to MBAnderson

Thanks for responding.. Look at it similar. I use 1 tbl in my blended decaf coffee with 1/2 tsp of lions mane. Been taking for about 2 1/2 months. Not sure as I have quite a stack, but do feel a little better from a cognitive perspective.

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MBAnderson in reply to ParlePark

Good for you.

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glenandgerry in reply to ParlePark

Any stomach issues with the lions mane? Bought it for my husband (PWP) to try because I'd read such good things about it, but he couldn't tolerate it. Said he felt as though it was fermenting in his stomach.

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ParlePark in reply to glenandgerry

No issues at all. Use 1/2 tsp Electric Lions Mane/Amazon.

Good video. It actually backs up John Pepper's walking protocol. Thanks for sharing.

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MBAnderson

A head of his time -- by quite a bit.

"The doctor of the future will no longer treat the human frame with drugs, but rather will cure and prevent disease with nutrition." Thomas Edison

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