Changes in diet may improve life expectancy in PwP : weight loss

[aspergerian]

Changes in diet may improve life

expectancy in Parkinson's patients

November 24, 2017

medicalxpress.com/news/2017...

[lempa_nik]

The conclusion from this study is underwhelming, to say the least. "PwPs who lose weight do less well and are more likely to suffer dementia. Therefore let's try to fatten them up . . . maybe that will help." When I read that sort of drivel, all I can say is "Oh, Duh." Maybe there is more to this study than got reported, but It seems that the researchers were desperate to draw some conclusion and this is the best they could come up with. I'll mark this study as "Delete."

[aspergerian in reply to lempa_nik]

MacLeod offered, "Therefore, it is vital that further research investigate whether e.g.

high calorie diets will improve outcomes in people with Parkinson’s who

lose weight." I will be surprised if the Macleod et al group choose to consider gluten, zonulin, and intestinal permeability or adverse effects of too much sugar.

abdn.ac.uk/news/11344/

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/290...

[faridaro]

Since fat accumulates certain toxins, could it be that weght loss can increase release of toxins into bloodstream and therefore toxin exposure? I've lost about 15 lbs before onset of PD symptoms....

[lempa_nik in reply to faridaro]

That's an interesting idea. The sequence of events is a crucial clue. In your case, the massive fat loss preceded the PD, so it could be a contributing cause of the PD. But if the PD diagnosis preceded a major weight loss--or wt. loss trend--we would need to look for something else to have triggered off the PD.

[aspergerian in reply to lempa_nik]

I was throughly tested inthe several months prior to dx. My left leg and were already affected. Constipation had begun months earlier . Leg cramps several years earlier.

[JMitch1950 in reply to lempa_nik]

I find this study interesting. I did not loose a lot of weight after my PD diagnosis, however, 2 years later, after open heart surgery to repair a gushing mitral valve and shortly after being prescribed carb/Levo, I lost from 178 to 155. I have near zero fat on my body. I do not have a good appetite and I am not a sugar addict. I need a good high calorie diet. I eat fresh veggies, fruit and a lot of fresh fish, living at the Gulf makes it easy. I do not want to loose more weight.

[aspergerian in reply to faridaro]

Good point to contemplate.

[Hikoi]

The research was on people with parkinsons and atypical parkinsonism conditions. Would that include the parkinson plus conditions. If so that might explain some of the findings.

The main finding of interest to me is early weight loss sugggests a poorer outlook. Another small piece of the puzzle.

[Tamarisk]

Not rocket science, as more calories should mean more weight gain, I would be more interested in how to put weight on to a man who despite eating quite well is slowly wasting away, prescribed nutritional drinks have not made a jot of a difference, so if any one has succeded in putting weight on please share your method.

My husband is now a walking, falling skeleton.

[aspergerian13 in reply to Tamarisk]

I went from 230 appx to 137 in year before dx. Since then, stable at 135. I am 6' 1". Ate well as the weight loss occurred and since. 73 yo.

[Astra7]

This just clears the way for more chocolate to go with the Alzheimer's reducing champagne.

Life is picking up!

[M1tz1]

I cleared my husband's Alzheimer's using protocols designed by US neurologists Drs Dale Bredesen (who has brought scores of people back from Alzheimer's into productive jobs) and Dr David Perlmutter, who recommends a ketogenic diet --very high fat, moderate to low protein and almost no carbs. Too long to describe the details and the science here but the brain is fuelled with good fats (coconut oil, butter, olive oil -- not vegetable oils) so that weight loss occurs. My husband is now very thin but has got his cognitive function back. Dr Perlmutter recommends the same diet for Parkinson's.

[MylovedhasPd in reply to M1tz1]

This is close to my Beloved’s diet. His cognitive function has stayed good even f it deteriorates bit by bit

[bcowart]

I am transitioning to Keto, and eating a diet and taking numerous supplements and oils prescribed by the care of Dr Patricia Kane. SHe is a researcher and lecturer, not an MD. She used my genome (from 23andMe) as a guide for what my particular body needs and can use. The diet is very low carb, high oil. Olive, coconut, evening primrose. Medium chain fatty acids. The aim is to heal the gut by strengthening the cell walls all cells in the body, but particularly the gut. When the gut is leaky, your food can cross right through the gut wall into the blood stream. At least that is my understanding of leaky gut syndrome. Good probiotics, ample minerals and vitamins, cutting out sugar and processed foods (anything made from flour, for example), and adding good-quality protein at the correct time relative to my dosing of L/C seems to be helping some. The jury is out still, because I'm not fully on the Keto diet (therefore not 'in ketosis'). Mercola, Perlmutter and others claim going Ketogenic can reverse neuro-degenerative disease. We shall see. I'm 5'9" and down to 120 pounds. I have lost about 15 lbs from my normal weight (for the last 44 years). Parts of my body that I didn't know were there have started to appear, which is weird. Hip bones, arms, neck tendons, etc. Sort of interesting but I'm starting to worry that I'm consuming myself. So I have to keep up the eating project. I'm doing muscle building with weights, pull-ups, push-ups, jogging, power walking.