Health Clinic in South Africa

[laglag]

Don't think I'm crazy for even thinking about posting this. I know this is probably a scam, especially since they are claiming to "cure" a variety of diseases, but I was curious if anyone has heard of this website or know anything about it? I don't believe herbs will "cure" a disease such as PD, but maybe there are specific herbs that will relieve some of the symptoms?

healthherbalclinic.weebly.com/

[Catlou]

Just checked this out. Let's see what they respond to me about parkinsons.

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Doctors and experts are baffled by an Indian man who claims not to have eaten or drunk anything for 70 years - but is still in perfect health.

He claims to have been blessed by a goddess when he was 8-years-old, which has enabled him to survive without sustenance and that he derives energy through meditation.

Most people can live without food for several weeks, with the body drawing on its fat and protein stores. But the average human can survive for only three to four days without water.

youtu.be/FGF7EY2Ucm8(Not working as expected?)

[Catlou]

here is their reply: Welcome to Health Herbal Clinic, we sell herbal medicine to treat all kind of diseases including Parkinson's disease, we have treated many people of this degenerative disorder around the world through our PD herbal formula, you have absolutely nothing to worry about, we shall send you the herbal

medicine through courier service upon your purchase, once it gets to you we shall give you step by step instructions how the herbal medicine is taken, once used as prescribed its 100% guaranteed to reverse all your PD symptoms within 6-9 weeks of usage depending on the stage of the disease. Please provide us with the following info;

[Janlavelle]

What is the herb they are going to send?

[laglag in reply to Janlavelle]

It appears they don't tell you until it arrives at your door.

[nils68 in reply to Janlavelle]

Hi Janlavelle you will never know what the herb is because after you pay for it there then becomes a serious of other payments to be made from fake courier service, to customs permits to health ministry permits, to point of origin permits and the list goes on. Its a SCAM pure and simple. Health Herbal clinic, along with New Life Herbal Clinic are nothing but parasites praying on the sick and desperate. Just despicable scum. The South African Government should really do something about these fake scammers and fake herbalists offering hope to the vulnerable, South Africa is awash with these lowlife.

[lempa_nik]

This forum laughed those con-artists to shame months ago when there was a similar inquiry. What a flagrant scam! Why waste precious time on it? The advert is a dead giveaway: "100% guaranteed to reverse all your PD symptoms within 6-9 weeks of usage depending on the stage of the disease" Garden variety flim-flam--not even cleverly disguised.

[JohnPepper]

Hi Laglag. I don't believe a word of this, but I have written to this company and asked for the names of at least 3 people with Pd. he claims to have ciured, and will follow that up.

Don't hold your breath!

[PDConscience in reply to JohnPepper]

PRICELESS!!! Here we have a fellow S.African national who wrote the "Reverse Parkinson's Disease" farce - aka "The Pot" - calling the proverbial kettle black. Perhaps we can hold JP to his own standards(?).

How about it JP... give us the names of 3 people with clinically diagnosed PD who, in the 15 years since your book first debuted, have succeeded (either consciously or unconsciously) to "Reverse Parkinson's Disease" using your formula. The world anxiously awaits...

[JohnPepper in reply to PDConscience]

Hi PdConscience. You hide behind a Nom de Plum. You know my name and I am prepared to give you people's names and doctors names, but not on an open forum. So, put your money where your mouth is.

[PDConscience in reply to JohnPepper]

After years of practice, you've become quite adept at ducking and dodging questions of accountability for your grandiose claims. It's neither me, my name, nor my credibility that's the issue here. I didn't write a book claiming to "Reverse Parkinson's Disease". Your fantastical tale is either 'fact' or 'fiction'. Without any evidence to support the former (after 15 years), only the latter remains.

[JohnPepper in reply to PDConscience]

Hi PDConscience. If you can find anything in my book that is not true, please tell the whole world about it. You want me to drag other people into this so that you can demonize them as well. I will not do that. My doctor has given his full support for my book by writing the preface. One of my neurologists has given an interview on video of what she believes has happened to me.

Many people are in the process of getting better, which is totally different to taking medication and temporarily feeling better. It took me 8 years to come off all Pd medication and you think that other people can do it in a few moths, just to prove to you that it works.

What have you achieved in this life?

[PDConscience in reply to JohnPepper]

Anything that is untrue in your book? Let's start with the title and the notion that ANYBODY with a clinically diagnosed case of PD has EVER succeeded to "Reverse Parkinson's Disease" through exercise alone (conscious or otherwise). Your tactic of making vague references to "The 1st World Parkinson's Congress" and a study by "Dr Beth Fisher" as some form of support for the myth is weak. Although the benefits of exercise are commonly known and accepted, science supporting PD "reversal" through exercise does not exist.

[JohnPepper in reply to PDConscience]

Hi PDConscience. You are a self appointed critic. You give no basis for the above criticism. "Reverse" is a direction. It is not a goal. I have reversed many of my symptoms to the point where they cause me no problems at all, and so have many other people.

You obviously have a prime motive for doing this and I'll bet it has something to do with MONEY! Whatever your motive, you are in no position to say that "has EVER succeeded to 'Reverse Parkinson's Disease' through exercise alone". That is patently not true, I for one have. I don't clam to be cured, I only claim to now be able to live a 'normal' life, which is perfectly true. I also claim that others have also been able to do this, and that is also perfectly true.

Instead of acting as our PD Conscience, why not do something positive and maybe meet with me, or read my book and tell me what is false?

[jeeves19 in reply to PDConscience]

PDC. You wouldn't be the erstwhile Magnito Man under a new pseudonym would you by any chance? This is the sort of personal negativity/bad vibe he was adept at reverting to.

[PDConscience in reply to jeeves19]

Jeeves, I suspect that for every person who, like yourself, finds some value in exaggerated tales of disease "reversal" - complete with recommendations that people cease their medications which "do nothing to slow or reverse disease" in favor of a special regimen which promises to actually "Reverse Parkinson's Disease" - there are 10 or 20 people who have grown weary of the pretenders as we await genuine solutions. Pls get back to me when JP's magical formula reverses yours.

[jeeves19 in reply to PDConscience]

A decent repost PDC but if there's one thing PD has taught me (as well as 54 years on this strange planet) it's.............be kind. x

[laglag in reply to JohnPepper]

I'm sorry to cause such a ruckus. I pretty much knew this was a scam, but I thought maybe someone knew something about the herbs they are referring to that help PD.

[lempa_nik in reply to laglag]

Hi PDC, Your accusation against John Pepper is like comparing apples to avocados. John only tells people what worked for him. He says "try it and see for yourself." He does not take people's money -- all his info is offered for free on his website, no need to buy his book. In my opinion, this key difference invalidates your comparison.

[Hikoi in reply to lempa_nik]

Just $20 donation to hear his presentation and $100 for a private consultation.

[JohnPepper in reply to laglag]

Hi Laglag. I ma looking into this herbal claim and speaking to people whom the herbalist has claimed are cured. They live a long way fro me but I will follow it up.

[Janlavelle in reply to JohnPepper]

I'm anxious to hear what you come up with. Thanks for spending the time to check it out. I know we're all desperately looking for some positive news, so it's hard to completely ignore these claims.

I'm starting to look into micro dosing ibogain. Anyone know anything about that?

[Taetae08]

SCAM!!¡

[laglag]

Let's forget I ever mentioned this subject!

[racerCP]

Yes I think you are wasting time and perhaps money. Put your efforts into being active, eating well, enjoying life. Read a book, see a play, exercise.

[laglag in reply to racerCP]

Yes, that's what I have been doing & plan on doing. I'm very cautious about things like this. I just wanted to see what, if anything, anyone knew about this claim for an unbelievable miracle. My ultimate goal was to find out more about specific herbs that may HELP PD and/or it's symptoms. Thanks for your concern!

[lempa_nik in reply to laglag]

Hi Laglag, Don't know what the alleged "South African herbalist" has in mind for PD, but any expert in Ayurveda or Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) will prescribe a variety of herbs for PD. My TCM herbalist has me taking a special, customized tincture, Tian Ma tea pills, and, for my tendency to acid reflux, the preparation called Hingvastak I'm taking these as supplementary to Amino Acid Therapy.

Just to give you an idea, here are the ingredients in the tincture: Ashwaganda, Skullcap, Bacopa, Rosemary, Wood Betony, Piper Methylsticum, Catamus, Linden, water, alcohol, and glycerin. Not at all simple: don't try concocting this at home! Not even knowing the proper dose of each, you might end up at the mortuary sooner than necessary

[sumarianson]

Hi Laglag I am also interested in any proofs of a 'cure' for COPD which is also claimed on this site by Dr, Sithu. There are many claimed cures on the site but no way to clarify their authenticity. Also the methods of payment are quite dubious. Western Union and Moneygram only? My suspicion is that the site is not legitimate and more than likely a scam. However have you had any reply from JP?