Shingrix Vaccine and the Ibrutinib (Imbruvica) treatment

[AshGS]

Hi all... Hope you are all in good condition and happy

I have just been informed that with the Imbruvica long term treatment we become vulnerable for the shingrix infection.

So I am enquiring on which is best: take the shingrix vaccine or have a medication life time that protects against the shingrix (I don't recall its name) ?

Personally, I believe that the vaccine is taken once and that is it as opposed to take medication for life time.

But honestly, I am afraid that, as the shingrix vaccine is relatively new vaccine (since 2018), it might prove to develop serious diseases similar to what happened with certain Covid vaccines!

So what are your views and professional advice?

Thanks much!

[BigfootT]

I've had the Shingrix 2 shot regiment. 1st shot had only mild vaccine symptoms. 2nd shot (2 months later) I was sick for 3 days with a very enlarged lymph node near the shot site that took 3 weeks to resolve. My doctor told me after the 2nd shot incidence that I should have spaced out the 2nd shot by at least 4 months. My wife had the same 2 shots last year and spaced the shots 6 months apart and had no adverse reaction.

Bigfoot

[Skyshark]

I don't know about recommendations in Egypt.

It's not just people on treatment for CLL. Since 2023 UK NHS Shrigrix is recommended for all immunocompromised over 50 years old. It's also recommended for everyone over 65.

Had the first one last month, awaiting the second. Had 2 days of fever on the first.

[AshGS in reply to Skyshark]

Oh ok.. but is this vaccine safe longer term with no surprises like what happened with certain covid vaccines?

Does it have to do if I got the chiken-pox while young, or in all cases, it would be effective?

[AussieNeil Partner Administrator in reply to AshGS]

What surprises "happened with certain covid vaccines"? Some were withdrawn from use due to a higher than acceptable level of adverse events, but these were still less than the risk from actual COVID-19 infections. There was a huge amount of misinformation about the vaccines. I was even told I and many millions of others would be dead from having them, but amazingly, billions of us have survived 2 years beyond that forecast mass extinction event. I've collated and provided evidence refuting many of the misinformation and disinformation statements here. healthunlocked.com/cllsuppo...

Neil

[Skyshark]

Guillain Barre Syndrome has appeared as a possible risk. Not yet proven to be caused by Shrigrix.

fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biol...

Likely hood a stoke or heart attack if you get shingles is higher.

health.harvard.edu/diseases...

COVID vaccine risk is extremely low. You have been reading anti-information that intends to do people harm.

factcheck.org/2024/02/study...

You can not get shingles if you haven't had chicken pox. But you don't have to be a child to get chicken pox, just not had it before or not had the chicken pox vaccine.

You cannot get shingles from someone with shingles or chickenpox.

But you can get chickenpox from someone with shingles if you have not had chickenpox before.

When people get chickenpox, the virus stays in the body. It can be reactivated later and cause shingles if someone's immune system is weakened.

This can be because of stress, certain conditions, or treatments like chemotherapy.

The antiviral Acyclovir is an alternative. It is also recommended after shingles if vaccinated or having shingles more than once. It's not without the possibility of side effects.

drugs.com/acyclovir.html