AI and Cancer

[Priss69]

Could AI, artificial intelligence, create curative treatments for cancer? What do you think?

[Motorman]

Having studied many AI pictures and written work I don't think AI is there yet. Maybe in time it will get better but will it always be better than a skilled human? I doubt it.

[Lk919]

The combination of AI, quantum computing and personalized vaccines are going to transform medicine in the next few years for me.

[SofiaDeo]

I read an article about this in Forbes the other day that disturbed me. The article claimed AI would be able to cure all cancers. I read this with skepticism. It's not like there is a single, known, specific reason for cancer to arise. I suppose if AI could somehow figure out how to make our DNA repair processes perfect, cancer could be eliminated. Other than that, I don't see how a process that constructs sentences/paragraphs based on "probability algorithms" of previous articles of a subject, is going to do this. Can AI be programmed with known data and make better treatment algorithms? Probably. But it's can't magically know what research outcomes will be. One has to do the research and actually see what the answer to the study question is, for biological systems.

[Spark_Plug in reply to SofiaDeo]

I'm ever doubtful of the broad claims of technology. Instant gratification is so rampant that the moment there's more thank a tick of dead air they will repackage the tech and push it out to the masses as another achievement that's is slight of hand advertising.

Look at the all the all powerful smart phone, they now offer the ability to leave a voice text. Talk about reinventing the wheel! There all so many modes of communicating with these devices and yet calls, emails, voice mails, and texts go unanswered. . .but not for long there will be yet another introduced right around the corner that will be just as ineffective.

I can just imagine the AI being retrofitted as a spellchecker for CRISPR, ever see the artifacts it leaves in images that create bizarre renditions, Yes! I most certainly want the customized third arm exiting the middle of my forehead, and use a quantum computer to run it all. . . I'm in a hurry. 👀 😂😂😂

[Priss69 in reply to Spark_Plug]

...There is already a treatment for a type of cancer created by AI

[Newdawn Administrator in reply to Priss69]

It has to give us all hope Priss but somehow I don’t see it in my immediate future.

Importantly, how are you doing?

Newdawn

[Priss69 in reply to Newdawn]

..I'm pulling. Now I am starting a new treatment for Myelodysplasia that I was diagnosed with last year. I can't stop collecting cancers

[Newdawn Administrator in reply to Priss69]

We are all pulling with you Priss. You’ve shown tremendous fortitude and I’m sure your determination will win through.

Best wishes,

Newdawn

[Priss69 in reply to Newdawn]

....Thank you. Now I also have a broken heart from so many treatments. They wanted to operate on me but the doctors have ruled it out due to the risk of death in the operating room. Now I live from day to day without knowing if I will be able to survive future treatments.

[Zweistein]

I believe that AI could already optimise treatment with the existing drugs. Current prognostic methods are mostly multilinear regressions and case distinctions with fixed thresholds. More and more substances are coming onto the market and it will be almost impossible to test them in all combinations, orders, and for all prognostic markers.

[Priss69 in reply to Zweistein]

My husband is a computer engineer and he told me that using AI to make programs. He told me that at the moment AI cannot cure cancer but what it can do is give more personalized treatments.

[Zweistein in reply to Priss69]

I wonder whether AI-based treatment regimens would be approved.

[Skyshark]

AI speeds the search for effective drugs that will match proteins (/CD markers) and block cancer cells progress. Before in vivo there is in vitro and now there is in silico.

technologyreview.com/2023/0...

[Zweistein in reply to Skyshark]

I remember an article about a project where AI from medical research was used to invent poisons for chemical weapons. And the results included known such substances that were not in the training dataset.

deeplearning.ai/the-batch/a...

So this method already works and will hopefully only be used for good purposes.

[Priss69 in reply to Skyshark]

...They have released new antibiotics with AI and Immunotherapy has also improved with AI.

[Snakejaw]

I’m probably not qualified to have an opinion, but yeah I think AI is a big deal in terms of treatment development. I think technology has made medicinal research exponentially faster, and the ability to run simulations or blaze through possible outcomes inevitably will allow for newer/more specialized options.

[Priss69 in reply to Snakejaw]

Progress is currently being made in personalized treatments for cancer patients with AI

[SofiaDeo in reply to Priss69]

If you are referring to articles like this:

pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/Art...

please realize that this data is being generated on a PREDICTED protein structure of the human genome. The genome data has to first be verified and then those structures that THEORETICALLY work will, have to be tested in a trial. So IF the prediction is correct, THEN it may work/can be trialled. The process is sped up, which is great.

cancerresearch.org/blog/jan...

[Priss69 in reply to SofiaDeo]

.....Thank you very much for your contribution and above all for explaining it so well. I am more clumsy at explaining the process. I think that work is being done on this issue and we will not see the results for a few years, but I think it can work.

[Priss69]

..... gemini.google.com/share/a4a...

Here I leave an article. It is in French but you can translate it. Much progress is being made in medicine with AI.

[MontanaLover]

I believe AI is great at crunching data, identifying patterns and making extrapolations based on its already voluminous data it was trained with. But at this point, it is just another tool, albeit a powerful tool, in fighting cancer and other diseases. Until AI has original thought and can reflect and ponder life's many important questions, I just can't see how it will come up with anything that isn't in some way related to an original thought of a sentient being. Maybe I'm just being closed-minded or naive?

[Zweistein in reply to MontanaLover]

I wonder if I ever had an original thought in my life. 😉 One concept is to add noise to the artificial neural network to prevent results too close to the input data.

[Spark_Plug in reply to Zweistein]

If adding noise solved things then, why when you're driving and can't find an address do we turn down the radio? 😏

[Canuck901]

ai id based on human input , maybe someday but we are decades away from that

[lamboman]

that’s what CureMatchDirect.com does. They use DNA sequencing and AI to recommend the best combinations of drugs to fight your specific cancer