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My mother and her brother both died in their mid 40's with heart failure due to v. high cholestorel. Can I stop the inevitable?

callmedave
callmedave
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First of all I think this forum is great and I've learnt a lot from many people posting on here. I do however get lost with all the mixed advice given and I know most will say that I should speak to a GP/cardioligist etc but I would like to learn from people going through similar experiences. I am now 38 and my GP informed me 4 years back that my LDL (Bad) cholestorel is 9.2 and subscribed me to Statins and encouraged me to improve my diet immediately. I did that and found the statins introduced me to muscular pains I had never felt before, though managed to reduce my LDL cholestorel to 5.6. There was no way I could keep taking those statins, so I came off them and whilst I had a good diet I became complacent with food, though I have maintained good levels of excercise.

Just recently I got my bloods checked and I've been told my LDL is now 8.6 and due to my family history my doc has pretty much said I have no choice but to take statins. Just last week my mums younger brother now aged 52 has had a quadruple bypass as he also suffers with very high cholestorel.

Should I just accept the inevitable and live my life, or can I genuinly change the outcome of my future? Any help/support would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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Londinium

Helpful if you provide full list of your lab results WITH reference ranges (they differ from lab to lab). Have you had any inflammation biomarker blood tests e.g. CRP, Homocysteine, ESR, etc?

What is your HBA1C result? It will reflect overall average sugar level of previous 2-3 months. If your HBA1C and/or Triglycerides are elevated, you need to reduce carb and sugar intake.

Try to eliminate veg/seed oils, wheat, flour, gluten, refined sugars, syrups., etc.

Most cafes and restaurants use only veg oils, which increase inflammation and accelerate cardiovascular disease.

Try to consume real food, greens, salads, organic olive oil, organic grass-fed butter, organic coconut oil.

Do you have, or have you had, any infections, inflammations, autoimmune conditions, or anything that ends with "itis", e.g. sinusitis, bronchitis, gingivitis, dermatitis, etc.

Cholesterol levels rise in response to chronic inflammation &/or infection. Thyroid conditions also affect cholesterol/lipid levels.

I would suggest taking at least 1 gram of Vit C, on at least three occasions throughout the day and night. And a daily Vit B Complex.

Try adding spices to your food e.g. turmeric to reduce inflammation, and cinnamon to reduce blood sugars i.e. the 'zeylanicum' variety of cinnamon is found in health supplement shops.

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DakCB-UK
DakCB-UK
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How do you get enough nutrients, especially protein, that way? Do you do much exercise? I struggle to eat enough to keep weight on when I do a day's gentle walking as it is and if I had to avoid most cafe/restaurant foods, then I'd be carrying so much food as to need even more to fuel carrying it...

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callmedave

Londinium, Thanks for the advice. I have been referred to a specialist consultant in the coming weeks to medically discuss the best way forward. Your comments has certainly helped me to at least ask the right questions as I am starting to realise how little I know. In terms of specifics, I actually don't have these answers as all I know is the levels of cholestorel. Interestingly enough though I do suffer from Ankylosing Spondylitis (Arthiritis) which I was diagnosed with at a young age. This causes inflammation in my joints but I have generally managed this quite well with excercise.

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Londinium

Have you had TSH, FT3 and FT4 (full thyroid panel) tested? Have you had Vit D and Vit B12 tested?

It is YOUR DATA, and you are legally entitled to the printout of lab results with reference ranges stated alongside each result.

Chronic inflammation, infection, any "itis", added sugars, industrialised veg oils, refined flour and grains and carbs, low Vit D, etc.... all play a part in accelerating cardiovascular disease. πŸ––πŸ»

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Concerned

The important factor is to reduce insulin-resistance. Cholesterol levels are a symptom, not the cause.

No amount of low-fat dieting will help. You need to lower the glycaemic load of what you eat glycemicindex.com/about.php , avoid (semi-)skimmed milk and derivatives, other anomalies such as baked beans, always eat fat with only small amounts of protein, minimise fructose and/or alcohol. Eat natural fat, not processed vegetable oils.

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Anotherview

Thank you for the science and some sanity.

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DakCB-UK

I think you can change it.

The above give some diet approaches but if you choose to go the medication route, statins are not the only drug. The newest are the PCSK9 inhibitors. Others include absorption inhibitors like ezetimibe or the older drugs of bile acid sequestrants and niacin. The older ones have well known side effects. The newer ones may have side effects but I don't know them yet.

If your numbers and family history are that bad, have you been referred to specialist clinics? GPs are great but you sound like an extreme case.

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Londinium

If you get thyroid blood tests done, you will need at the very least, TSH, FT3, FT4. If your doctor fails to include those three when testing the thyroid, he/she is failing to provide an accurate overview of your thyroid function.

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Londinium

Who informed you, or where was it stated, that the cause of death in both of your two relatives was "very high cholesterol"?

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callmedave

They were both diagnosed with high LDL cholesterol, but that's all I am aware of. Two of my other aunts (mums sisters) also currently suffer with the same. Thanks.

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Londinium

Callmedave,

I don't think a death certificate would have cause of death as "very high cholesterol". I know many people with high cholesterol who died in their 80's or 90's. Were your relatives taking statins for their high cholesterol? Perhaps, the statins played a part in their passing?

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callmedave

Correct, it wasn't the cause of death. Both suffered with heart failure (not sure of the exact diagnosis). Leading to their death I know they had been diagnosed with high chol. Statins wise they actually decided against taking them at all, but my uncle who just two weeks back had a quadruple bypass has been on statins for 5yrs+.

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Londinium

So their heart failure could have been due to other things. And your uncle took statins for 5 yrs went on to have a quadruple bypass.

Did your mother, her brother, or your uncle with the recent surgery, have issues with -

thyroid

diabetes

blood sugar

infections

inflammations

root canals

gingivitis

any "itis"

autoimmune

heavy metals e.g. amalgam dental fillings

low Vit D, low B12, etc

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Londinium
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Londinium

High cholesterol 'does not cause heart disease' new research finds, so treating with statins a 'waste of time' -

telegraph.co.uk/science/201...

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callmedave
callmedave
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Thanks Helen for the encouraging advice.

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