Eggs

[Billyboybad]

Hi . Cholesterol diet sheets say only have 3-4 eggs a week . Is this true or now not relevant . In other countries outside uk people eat a lot more eggs. Should I eat less eggs and are they bad for cholesterol many thanks bill

[sandybrown]

There has been many research done on it, I am afraid there is no a definitive answer to date.!!

A TV documentary this lady ate three eggs for 2 weeks there were no change in cholesterol.

There are people on their late eighties living without much problems who had two boiled eggs for breakfast providing eggs were available.

I go for two eggs per day for healthy living along with many other things. Why separate an egg and throw away 1/2 of it?

I see one lady at my workplace, only eat egg York! another only eat the white of poached eggs. What a waste?

You body, .your stomach can let you know if you are eating extra.

Human body produces 80 % cholesterol on demand and 20% from food intake!!!

Do your own calculation.

[Billyboybad]

Thanks sandy

[sandybrown in reply to Billyboybad]

Scrambled eggs with little butter so I am told. I make scrambled eggs with brown free range eggs with butter or coconut oil or olive oil!

[jimmy6p in reply to sandybrown]

A bit of knowledge I got from a friend who had chickens for 40+ yrs. The color of the shell means NOTHING! The egg inside is the same regardless of shell coloring. It's mostly a marketing scam.

[Billyboybad]

I’ve cut out white bread and only use benecol butter . Olive oil and extra virgin too. Going to try sweet potatoes tomor

[sandybrown in reply to Billyboybad]

Benecol?

[jimmy6p in reply to Billyboybad]

Any seed oil is bad for you. Stick to real butter. It's never hurt anyone that I've seen.

[DakCB-UK in reply to jimmy6p]

Real butter ha blooming ha. It's also man made as you don't see cows making it. Check the additives of anything.

Benecol contains plant stanols but I'd use the shot drink because controlling the dose is difficult with the spread.

[Billyboybad in reply to DakCB-UK]

I use the shot drink daily I’ll see in two months how that combined with diet n exercise have worked tho my b p is on the higher side and I’m on 5 mg ramipril

[Billyboybad]

It’s like stanols . Hopefully reduce cholesterol . In margarine spread form and as a small shot drink

[DakCB-UK]

Check the date on the diet sheet. I think current advice is eggs are OK in moderation because the body reduces to compensate for increased consumption. heartuk.org.uk/cholesterol-...

[Billyboybad in reply to DakCB-UK]

Thanks dak very helpful

[Billyboybad]

Oh I see ok I’ll check it

[sandybrown]

M&S soft butter spreadable, Kerry gold soft butter are both excellent. you can also use coconut oil.

[Flissie in reply to sandybrown]

I cd be wrong but my understanding is that a firm product like butter that has been altered to be spreadable straight from the fridge is a little removed from the original product - read the labels. Butter should have be milk and a little salt shouldn't it - preferably not table salt?

[Billyboybad]

They are low in sat fats I take it or a better option I suppose? 👍

[Billyboybad]

Hi londininum . I knew margarine is bad so don’t use it . Benecol I use is in yoghurt shot drink and also in a spread . Rapeseed oil I don’t use much but told to use with roast pots etc once a week

[Billyboybad]

It’s advertises that it can benefit cholesterol levels which is a myth ? Whilst the yoghurt drink is ok? Is that correct?

[Billyboybad in reply to Billyboybad]

Are you being sarcastic ? I’m asking serious questions? I want proper answers

[DakCB-UK in reply to Billyboybad]

Don't worry Billyboybad. It's not unusual to get hostility if you question the incomplete preaching on this forum.

[Brumosa in reply to Billyboybad]

Dear Billyboybad, I would suggest you look at the Heart UK charity website. Some people on this forum may have their own personal opinions which are not necessarily backed up by medical research.

[sandybrown in reply to Brumosa]

What medical research you need to eat eggs?

BBC, TV programmes do offer programmes not only on eggs but on other food as well!

[Fran182716]

I did not know that the UK did not have to list trans fats on nutritional info - that's concerning. I don't like margerine and use butter at home but something to consider when eating out. Thank you for pointing that out.

[sandybrown in reply to Fran182716]

UK, have a lot of information from Public Health England. The question is when this information was published!

There are a lot of new information available via the Internet, it may take time for PHE to update the data base.

I use the Internet to check the information I want.

Is butter not available when you are eating out?

[Fran182716 in reply to sandybrown]

Hi, well I don't really eat out often, I'm thinking more of occasionally getting toast or a sandwich from the canteen at work if I've ended up working over and I'm hungry they get the "butter" from a big yellow tub so I'm sure it's margarine, maybe I should keep a small tub of my own butter in the fridge. 😀

[Billyboybad]

Ok calm down maybe I read your message the wrong way . I’ll click on links I’ve not been well I’ve had man flu . Thanks for any help in that case it’s appreciated . I don’t eat margarine as a rule

[Fran182716]

That is awful, other people with an intolerance might not identify that's what was making them I'll.

shows that it's really just best to pack your own food, but sometimes life gets in the way of being organised!

[sandybrown]

We can get into very interesting discussion on this subject as it is very complicated to understand.

My family says, eat what you want and enjoy one life, only time will tell.

[Billyboybad in reply to sandybrown]

True. Life is too short

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i was told by chemist friend, that magarine is one molecule away from becoming plastic. My ex-son in law had a contract to deep clean the factories where margarine is manufactured, he said what he saw there and how hard it is to clean, would put you off margarine for life.

[sandybrown]

Fresh food!

[sandybrown]

An interesting article on eggs:

Pregnant women who eat up to NINE eggs a day have babies with higher IQs, study suggests

Eggs contain choline, which is also found in red meat, fish, poultry and nuts

Choline boosts babies' memories and abilities to process information.

Expectant mothers may require double the recommended choline intake a day

Researchers believe women may worry about eggs' 'unhealthy' reputation

On average, one egg contains 115mg of choline; 930mg is the optimal amount.

Read more:

dailymail.co.uk/health/arti...

[AlexandriaUK]

I eat eggs when I want one and although my cholesterol was 8.2 the eggs never had any effect, neither raising it or lowering it, about a year ago I started taking 10mg atorvastatin, at the same time I quit All artificial spreads and went on to butter full time including on my jacket potatoes, I use only extra pure virgin oil and a bit of coconut oil in curries, I haven't changed my exercise and although I have cut calories to lose about 8lb in weight I haven't done much else, within one month my cholesterol went from 8.2 down to 5.5 my Dr said that was not possible on such a low dose of statins (NO Side effects) and with me actually increasing my fat intake.

I also went back to eating a cooked breakfast when I fancied one and having a rib eye about once a month, cholesterol was taken the week before Christmas and its the lowest at 5.1 than its been since 2012, I'm not overweight but I am restricted to moderate exercise as I live on crutches.

So I would say that in MY opinion, ditch all the processed foods including plastic spreads and oils and get your vitamin D levels checked, mine were critical, up fibre intake and fluids and enjoy life. Happy 2018

[Billyboybad in reply to AlexandriaUK]

Well done and thanks . Very informative . I’ve been told to go on 10 mg avrostatin but waiting 3 mo this and trying diet and exercise

[sandybrown in reply to Billyboybad]

Check your total cholesterol before stating your medication, may be you can ask to start on 5mg and if necessary increase it to 10mg. Again check your total cholesterol after three months.

[AlexandriaUK in reply to Billyboybad]

Hi again, do you know your cholesterol numbers, are they quite high, have you had it tested regularly over the last year

[Billyboybad in reply to AlexandriaUK]

High yes . My cholesterol was 5 then up to 7 but with a little effort down to 6 . Now I’m full on cutting out white bread , sweets cakes etc and gym four days a week and less alcohol

[Anotherview]

There appears to be a lot of confusion about Cholesterol: All the way from "All cholesterol is good for you; fights cancer. Your body produced what it needs."...........right up to "It's going to kill you!" Then there are the ones who say LDL is bad and HDL is good......confusion, even in medical journals. The important thing to note is what sandy brown points out 80% of the blood cholesterol is produced by your own body (liver? especially when you are stressed?). 20% seems to come from the food you eat. I stopped all yolk completely (That is a lie...I did cheat some times with a whole egg). Now given all that is going on I take 2-3 eggs every week, extracting half of the yolk for the dog.

Still confused. Going on blood works this week, will see effect.

[DakCB-UK]

Look the plastic claim up on famous hoaxbuster sites like snopes.com - in short, it's misleading junk.

[DakCB-UK]

My stomach contains acid but I could still be harmed drinking it the wrong way!

[rocheen]

Is it safe to cook using lard. Does alcohol increase cholesterol and blood pressure

[Billyboybad in reply to rocheen]

Don’t use lard. Use olive oil / coconut oil . Alcohol definitely can increase blood pressure and can cholesterol too

[Brumosa]

Coconut oil is high in saturated fat and is not advisable for anyone with high cholesterol. See recent press release (with references) from Heart UK (cholesterol charity) - heartuk.org.uk