I have recently been given a F4 Advanced Fibrosis by a biopsy. My Fibroscan is 11.6kpa.
Since the diagnoses a few months ago, I have lost 12kg and am 102kg from 114kg and have changed my lifestyle altogether.
I'm not supposed to see my docs till April, do you think this weight loss and lifestyle is enough to go back from f4 and indeed reverse the 11.6kpa reading as well? My docs say it is not possible to reverse fibrosis and I am transferring to cirhosis but this was before my weight loss and when I got diagnosed.
Any and all support and help will be appreciated.
R
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Morning. I have had a pain in my liver area for just over a month. I have sadly abused my body with alcohol for over 20 years, and the past couple it has been excessive. I usually drink two bottles of wine every night. I am so ashamed and so scared what this could be. I have googled all symptoms of Liver Disease and Liver Cancer and I have none, apart from the tender pain in the liver area. I know I need to stop drinking but my marriage ended a year ago and I live alone and am really struggling to cope. I joined this site this morning, and my aim is to not drink this evening, and taking one day at a time, I am scared to visit my GP and so I'm going to abstain from alcohol for as long as I can, and hopefully the pain will ease. If the pain hasn't gone away after a couple of weeks of not drinking then I will make an appointment with the Dr. Has anyone else experienced liver pain that has gone away once removing alcohol from their lives? Any advice/support would be so much appreciated. Thank you x
May I suggest in order for people to see your post in future , you start a 'new post' rather than joining a thread. This would allow more members to see it and offer support, and I am sure you will find many have been where you are now and understand how you are feeling.
I cannot suggest strongly enough that you visit your GP. There is no 'shame' in what you are experiencing and your GP will be there to support you.
It may be necessary for you to have support in stopping your alcohol as abrupt changes can lead to complications and acute alcohol withdrawal.
May I suggest that you contact the nurse led helpline on 0800 652 7330 Mon- Fri 10am -3pm for a chat and support.
Thank you all for taking the time to message me, I'm actually stunned that people are out there and make time to message and support I didn't drink last night, ate a healthy dinner and went to bed early. I can't remember the last time I did that. Woke up this morning still with slight pain in liver area, but I know this is going to take time to hopefully go away. One day at a time...... thank you again
I strongly recommend you heed advice from Trust9...Dr Google can lead you down dark paths.....trust me I've been there! See the Doc-fess up on the drinking. Stop drinking now-as you say one day at a time-it works! lets see what's what in 6 weeks-you'll be feeling better about yourself I can assure you. cheers
Many thanks Richard, you might see below yesterday way a good day, now for day 2. Feeling positive and definitely kicking ass so far.........long may it continue.
Good luck on your journey, it wont be easy, I am on day 16 and have managed alc freed days apart from one glass of wine on day 13 which really annoyed me. Best thing I can find so far is to do things, go for a swim, table tennis & defo you will know you are on the right course soon. Good luck.
Well, that's a story that is probably common to many, if you click on my profile you will see my opening post on the forum which explains all. Im actually at a stage where the end goal is not necessarily to abstain but to drink moderately but what I have found is that by being dry for a while actually allows you to ascertain how habitual both mentally and physical crippling alcohol can be, its not your fault it is a social drug. I would always have a drink with my dinner, always, even have one while preparing it, but really... Ive realised that there is no benefit whatsoever to have a glass of wine if I am having a mundane pie and chips dinner for example, totally non beneficial. Of course I do look forward to a nice meal out and some Rioja, but each day that seems farther away, a bit odd really. The main thing that helped me address my issues was this forum and its members plus actually getting out and doing things, especially on long winter nights. I still think about alcohol every day, but as each day goes by my energy levels, state of calm, ability to get things done and overall feeling of clarity exudes accordingly. So, if you can take care of yourself then your liver will thank you and keep care of you too, that's a definite with any element of alcohol dependency and there is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of, absolutely zero.
Best Wishes
Graham
Good morning khanahsan,
Welcome to this friendly forum, as you can already see, you will get lots of support here.
Congratulations and well done on your lifestyle changes - that will only be a good thing for your long term liver health!
As others have said, you can indeed lower your fibroscan score with lifestyle change and weight loss.
I have included a link to Liver Disease tests Explained and Diet in Liver Disease which may help
May I suggest you continue with your fantastic lifestyle changes and ask the doctor when you see them in April about ongoing monitoring and assessment, which would allow you and the doctors to note any improvement.
Yes you can reverse fibrosis, the best person to ask is your hepatologist. My scan was far higher than yours and by eating healthily and exercising it is reversing and my score has dropped dramatically. BUT, you have to ensure you keep the healthy lifestyle up. Good luck! It also takes time so try not to focus on numbers and scan results. Just concentrate on being as healthy as possible. I was like you over a year ago, I still have a long way to go but the support I have had on here has been fantastic so don’t be afraid to talk to us!!
well done on the weight loss. if your alt is heading south then that's good news-keep doing what you're doing. achieving normal weight will get you good results. Takes time though. Lose another 5 kgs and see what happens -check again in 3 months..good luck
Do you mind telling me what was your scan result initially and what was it afterwards and how much time does it take for the scan or lfts to change. I've lost weight but lfts are still high
Hi, we are asked not to discuss that on here as we are not doctors and results can scare people. Everyone is different, keep at it and I promise you will improve.
That's old thinking and more with Cirrhosis than Fibrosis. Even cirrhosis has started to reverse after anti viral and other remedies in Hep B/C patients. Stay positive.
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I didn't drink last night, ate a healthy dinner and went to bed early. I can't remember the last time I did that. Woke up this morning still with slight pain in liver area, but I know this is going to take time to hopefully go away. One day at a time...... thank you again 
Worried 
worried - repeat fibroscan from 6 months ago is worse!!
Statins and the Liver
Interesting diet study for NASH and Fibrosis.
Cirrhosis?
