Anyone used hydroxyapatite?

[Lorlei]

Has anyone used Hydroxyapatite for osteoporosis with success? ,it is a ceramic material which forms the mineral phase of bone. It is comprised primarily of calcium and phosphate at a respective ratio of 1.67.

[Met00]

Are you able to provide a link to information about it please? I've never heard of it, but prefer to get my calcium from food as recommended. Dietary calcium is more easily absorbed than in supplement form with no risk of kidney stones or deposits in the arteries.

[HeronNS in reply to Met00]

Vitamin K2 helps calcium go to bones.

[Met00 in reply to HeronNS]

Yes, but in the UK at least we're advised to get calcium from diet if possible.

[HeronNS in reply to Met00]

Yes, I know, and I (vegetarian) do. The dose I take is nothing like what I hear people using the standard NHS calcium supplement get, and I am also getting a lot of micronutrients which I might be deficient in. I lost a lot of weight before I was diagnosed with PMR, and more since, so I personally think I need a supplement. Advancing age has not helped!

[Met00 in reply to HeronNS]

I would supplement if I needed to. At the moment I'm having to take Gaviscon, which has calcium in it, so it's unavoidable anyway! As you say, Vit K2-MK7 or K2-MK4 should ensure that calcium from supplements doesn't cause health problems, and however we're getting our calcium, K2 should help ensure it ends up in our bones.

[Fruitandnutcase]

I’ve heard of it - I first heard of it being added to toothpaste which seemed interesting - if you Google ‘hydroxyapatite and osteoporosis’ quite a few papers have been written about it you’ll find out more about it. I’ve included a couple of links but I haven’t looked at them closely.

I really don’t know how you would take it or if it is recommended or even worthwhile. I did notice kidney stones mentioned in one link but I don’t know. You could contact the ROS and ask what they think about it.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

sciencedirect.com/topics/ch...

[HeronNS]

My calcium supplement is calcium hydroxyapatite. It's supposed to be better absorbed by people on prednisone, as I have been (low dose) for several years. It's part of a bone supplement. Canadian. Made from mad cow free New Zealand cattle.

[Fruitandnutcase in reply to HeronNS]

Do you mind if I ask what bone supplement you use and what does it have in it? I’ve looked at them but probably not well enough and I’ve found it difficult to see one that doesn’t contain calcium carbonate.

[HeronNS in reply to Fruitandnutcase]

I'm in Canada and it's made in Canada. An alternative to carbonate, often better tolerated, is calcium citrate.

[HeronNS in reply to HeronNS]

Strong bones made by New Roots

newrootsherbal.com

[Fruitandnutcase in reply to HeronNS]

Yes, after I had worked my way through a few different versions of calcium carbonate I tried calcium citrate and I was fine with that. I then found this algae based calcium - it’s not Algaecal - which I liked the look of. I don’t take the full three capsules a day because I think I eat enough calcium containing foods anyway, I really just take them as a top up.I had my DEXA done in an NHS hospital and I’m not sure when or even if they will do another one as I stopped taking their bisphosphonates after four months.

[Fruitandnutcase]

I’m topping up my diet which is fairly calcium friendly (apart from the fact that I don’t like milk or yoghurt) with a calcium supplement derived from Icelandic seaweed. Trouble is how do I know how much difference it is making?

[HeronNS in reply to Fruitandnutcase]

I had two DXA scans a year apart, and my t-score improved from -2 to -1.6. I haven't had one since, five years now. Probably will ask when and if pandemic simmers down. No medications, but exercise and nutrition, including a few supplements. I don't know if anything else currently available to us to give us any idea, and a DXA scan is a pretty blunt instrument.

[Lorlei in reply to HeronNS]

That is an excellent improvement on your t-scores, how much calcium hydroxyapatite and what other supplements do you take?

[HeronNS in reply to Lorlei]

Although three doses (300 each) are recommended I take two, and forget sometimes. Otherwise I take D, and two 100 mcg capsules of vitamin K2. My calcium supplement includes small amounts of many micronutrients. I also take magnesium these days, although I haven't always, to maintain calcium/magnesium balance. One is supposed to take them at different times otherwise calcium can interfere with magnesium absorption. For another reason, osteoarthritis, I take a complete B supplement on alternate days, and glucosamine sulphate.

[Greekolives]

I take hydroxyapatite as that's the one my chiropractor recommended for my osteoporosis. I take Vitamin K2 with it. I have to avoid dairy for the most part, so needed a supplement. My Dexa Scan won't be until next summer. I like how this calcium is formulated from bone.

[Colleenmary]

Greetings! My Natureopath recently recommended Reacted Calcium which contains Hydroxyapatite. I really respect her as she is a researcher! She said that it's important to take D3 and K2 as well. Hoping it helps!

[Fruitandnutcase in reply to Colleenmary]

Wow! I have just looked up reacted calcium - £108 which appears to include a 40% discount! Their reacted magnesium is slightly cheaper at £102. You do get 180 capsules for that price and you need to take 2 capsules a day. That’s a lot of money - on the other hand if it works????

orthomolecularproducts.com/...

[Lorlei]

Thank you for all responses ,I am going to buy Hydroxyapatite from iherb but they are currently out of stock,hopefully they will have it soon. I am currently taking calcium citrate which is ok but I think Hydroxyapatite would be better.

Vitamin D supplementation has been a problem for me,after various different types I have tried it hasn't made a difference to the numbers, am currently trying vit D &k2 (mk4) I'm not sure it agrees with me but it's early days yet.