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jayvee51
jayvee51

This is my first actual post on here although I’ve been ‘lurking’ for some time and following every post with interest. The following popped up on my newsfeed this morning I thought it would be of interest to most of you.

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS

Last evening dining out with friends, one of their uncles, who's graduated with a master's degree and who worked in Shenzhen Hospital (Guangdong Province, China) sent him the following notes on Coronavirus for guidance:

1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold

2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.

3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.

4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.

5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.

6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.

7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.

8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.

9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.

10. Can't emphasise enough - drink plenty of water!

THE SYMPTOMS

1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days

2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.

3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.

4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.

SPREAD THE WORD - PLEASE SHARE.

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Thank you jayvee51 . Very helpful to know. xx 👋

An important point.

#3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.

I don't think so. Fact: The normal body temp is 36 -37.5°C, so from what you have been told we would never be able to harbour the virus in the first place.

It has also shown up in Singapore which is currently at 35°C.

gov.sg/features/covid-19

#5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap. Sorry but it is a virus not a bacteria. Ordinary soap will suffice.

Littlepom
Littlepom in reply to 2greys

Good morning dear friend. I think we need to attempt to keep our pedantry under wraps when others are trying to be helpful. Even though we may be technically correct. Said with kind intentions.

2greys
2greys in reply to Littlepom

So you think that disinformation should be allowed to go unchallenged? That could be rather a dangerous precedent.

I also thought it was a forum rule that medical information has to be be backed up by relevant links, which in this case, has not been provided, so it is only just hearsay, not fact.

Littlepom
Littlepom in reply to 2greys

We are all looking at all of the facts all of the time and the two issues you mention are not life threatening in the light of everything that is going the rounds at the moment. I only commented because it takes a lot of courage to post the first time and to be slapped down in the way that you tend to do and have just done to me, can be very discouraging on a forum where we we are all trying to help each not frighten away those with less confidence than us. Be kind is my message. We all know that you are a mine of information.

2greys
2greys in reply to Littlepom

I am sorry that you feel that way. Not dangerous? So when the temps reach 26°C does that mean you are going to throw all caution to the wind on the basis of hearsay, ignoring what are obvious facts. I think not. Yet there will be some here that will remember that 26/27°C statement, come the warmer weather, and throw all caution to one side. We have to deal with the facts, not unverified hearsay.

I will gladly change my view if scientific research proves what has been stated is correct, despite being totally illogical.

I may well be pedantic, but that is the way I am, like it or lump it. I am an engineer not an artist. If errors were never corrected then we would all still be living in the middle ages.

I had or have absolutely no intention of slapping anyone down on purpose, but errors of the facts have to be corrected in important issues. I doubt that the original poster had any malicious thoughts and just thought they were doing a good turn.

jayvee51
jayvee51 in reply to 2greys

I was not intending to give false information or cause any upset. Should I have perhaps said at the start that I don’t actually know how accurate it all is? I just found it really interesting. I’ll stay away from posting anything which is not scientifically checked in future.

2greys
2greys in reply to jayvee51

There is nothing wrong with expressing your personal opinion at all. I did not believe for one minute that any maliciousness was involved, any more than I believe that I caused personal offense to you. It is just facts are facts. There are all sorts of rumours being spread, about Corvid 19, it is hard to just know what to believe. Keeping to to scientifically proven facts is the best course to take. Thanks anyway.

peege
peege in reply to jayvee51

It was a great, helpful post and you explained it came from a Chinese doctor & might be useful so don't stop posting or joining in. 😘

Bkin
Bkin in reply to peege

Sadly I think its a FB spam post after doing a google search.

Caspiana
Caspiana in reply to Bkin

I think so too. These things always circulate in times of crisis. xx

Littlepom
Littlepom in reply to jayvee51

You carry on posting jayvee. This is a forum for mutual support and opinion on issues which we feel affect us all. It is not an academic scientific institution. Some have more knowledge and experience than others and most people are very appreciative of anything which a member wishes to share. Those who may disagree with some of the facts usually simply seek to kindly correct any misconceptions.

I found your post very interesting. Thank you for spending so much time to type it out.

Please don't be put off, you are very welcome to contribute and will find that most members are lovely, kind, understanding and supportive and above all, appreciative of your efforts.

Caspiana
Caspiana in reply to jayvee51

It's okay jayvee51 . I have seen this circulating on Facebook too. Your intentions are good. xx 😊

skischool
skischool in reply to jayvee51

Jayvee,post and be damned,put on what you like as long as it falls within the boundaries set by the moderators,as for it's technical accuracy i for one don't give a hoot as i can pick and choose my research and verify things cos i am a big grown up boy(sometimes) lol Welcome to the site.

Ski's and Scruff's x

Bkin
Bkin in reply to jayvee51

Perhaps you can post a link to the information source jayvee that would be helpful. Thanks for your time.

Caspiana
Caspiana in reply to 2greys

2greys I know you didn't mean to sound harsh, but you can come off as extremely stand offish and angry even if that's not your intention. Jayvee is just trying to be helpful, and by all means you should speak up when you think it's misinformation, just choose your words or else you come across as bullish and unkind, which I know you are not. xx

Bkin
Bkin in reply to Littlepom

" frighten away those with less confidence than us. " (your words)

Do you believe that "those less confident" only read and rely on the words posted at BLF? I surely hope not.

I would say if any one can manage to make their way to BLF they are pretty confident in navigating to other sources of information too.

Of course entirely up to any individual whatever news media they believe as factual with or without back up links to an article which could help people make their own judgement if the source of information is reliable or not.

2grey has valid comment.

Littlepom
Littlepom in reply to Bkin

You are happy with the tone of the reply then. I am NOT talking about the factual content.

Bkin
Bkin in reply to Littlepom

What tone? Has the conversation topic switched to Music now - have a great day littlepom, all may not be how it seems.

Littlepom
Littlepom in reply to Bkin

I suggest that you read the thread again from the beginning. The person who posted had been watching for some time and only just plucked up the courage to contribute. One of my replies absolutely makes your point that we are getting information from everywhere. In this case I am only concerned with the way in which we correct each other. It doesn't hurt to be gentle.

I hope that it is as sunny where you are as it is here. Maybe Twinkle just might get to stretch his legs. Have a lovely day.

Thank you for this. It's refreshing to read some practical advice and learn some facts about the virus and its symptoms.

Thanks both to jayvee51 and 2greys for that helpful information.

Corin

Damon1864
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Thank you so much for sharing this, it is really helpful. Have a lovely day and take care of yourself 😊 Bernadette xx

Excellent. Thank you very much 👍

Guidance

COVID-19: guidance for educational settings

gov.uk/government/publicati...

Bkin
Bkin in reply to Bkin

I really am not convinced by .gov guidance --

12. What to do with post, packages or food sent from specified countries/areas within the last 14 days

There is no need to change how you handle post, packages or food received from the affected regions. The virus does not survive well for long periods outside the body and so it is highly unlikely that COVID-19 can be spread through post or packages. It is highly unlikely that COVID-19 can be spread through food.

Dear oh dear (so long as no one infected has coughed or sneezed over said package or food within past 30 mins maybe) jees.

Littlepom
Littlepom in reply to Bkin

🤦‍♀️

healthunlocked.com/blf/post...

This is mostly non-informative, only points 8 and 10 are worth following.

Some more useful advice:

Wash your hands frequently before/after preparing food, after eating, after going to the toilet and when in public spaces.

If you have it, call NHS 111 and self-isolate in a private separate room until you have no symptoms,

Cough/sneeze into a tissue or your elbow,

Use separate towels

Wash any laundry at 60 degrees that may be contaminated.

I can only say thank you for such invaluable and trustworthy information. I suspect many of us will be grateful for your posting. Many thanks

Thank you. Take care all xxx

Welcome Jayvee51.

I appreciate you posting information with good intentions.

I for one am very frightened about catching this horrible virus for me and my family.

Have a safe day everyone and stay well.

🌈X

Hi again Jayvee. I forgot to welcome you. 😊 So, welcome to our forum. I was wondering if you'd write an introductory post about yourself? Your profile has no details. We always like to get to know our new members. Just a thought. xx 🦋

Welcome to the forum.

I really hope that you find it useful.

Is you want to post information on the forum,please do so.

Have a good day

Hi Jayvee51 and welcome to the site x

Unfortunately this text has been going around and is full of incorrect facts and misinformation. It has been debunked here thatsnonsense.com/the-frien...

Please do not forward it.

Better to rely on more scientific resources such as the CDC. cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc...

Stay well everyone!

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