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Panic buying

Yasyass
Yasyass

Has anyone notice the somes shelves are empty at stores things are getting out of hand the media should do more to prevent this panic it’s as if the population didn’t used to wash their hands before the virus

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Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star

The problem is that very few of us actually wash our hands properly.

Beat me to it!

Yasyass
Yasyass
in reply to Milkfairy

We would think that the numerous times we have had viruses that we know how to wash our hands

Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star
in reply to Yasyass

Unfortunately we don't.

If we did many infections would be stopped in their tracks.

Sunnie2day
Sunnie2day
in reply to Yasyass

Yasyass, you would be shocked to hear some of the 'justifications' people have for not washing their hands. My least favourite is the one that starts 'Oh we're too worried about germs!' and my second least favourite is 'We are too germ conscious and over-cleaning doesn't help us build up natural immunity!'.

Grrrrrrr!

Excellent point. As long as they dont run out of 4 ply good toilet paper...anything else I can do without 🌝😉

Supernanu
Supernanu
in reply to Hoski

Apparently in Australia they are running out of toilet paper because people are stockpiling!!

Hoski
Hoski
in reply to Supernanu

OMG

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star
in reply to Supernanu

Arghh! No Poo March!

Hoski
Hoski
in reply to MichaelJH

😩

Handel
Handel
in reply to MichaelJH

I'll spend many a happy hour indoors cutting up newspaper and threading string though it to hang by the loo. This stockpiling is getting ridiculous!! 😩

Yasyass
Yasyass
in reply to Supernanu

My sister works in one of supermarkets in Birmingham they’ve run out of loo paper and paracetamol I asked one of my relatives I wonder why they scared so much they keep going to the loo and paracetamol headaches thinkin of it

LaceyLady
LaceyLady
in reply to Supernanu

We are here too!!! 😳

Shoshov
Shoshov
in reply to Hoski

🤣🤣funny you should say that. my sister in australia says you can’t get loo roll for love nor money 👉

Shoshov
Shoshov
in reply to Shoshov

that was supposed to say over there🤣

LaceyLady
LaceyLady
in reply to Shoshov

I’ve visited some of their ‘Dunnies’ 😱

Shoshov
Shoshov
in reply to LaceyLady

🤣so have i

This washing your hands thing. Isn’t it the case that you get more immunity by not trying to ‘kill all known germs?’ I’m not saying don’t wash your hands but how do you develop strong immunity systems?

Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star
in reply to COYW

Covid19 is a new virus to humans We have no immunity at the moment. Fortunately most people will only have a mild illness.

However for a small minority it is more serious , those over 60 and with other health problems.

By washing our hands we are not only protecting ourselves but others too.

By slowing the spread of the virus it means the NHS will have more time to prepare to deal with those who need hospital treatment including intensive care.

COYW
COYW
in reply to Milkfairy

Yep I agree but I assume that the stronger your immune system is the better you’ll be able to deal with the new virus. It won’t stop you from getting it but it will help you survive. So two things. 1. We don’t get strong immune systems from sterile environments and 2. You can support your immune system by eating and sleeping well, not being overweight taking exercise and drinking less booze.

COYW
COYW
in reply to Milkfairy

Also those over 60 are not a small minority. Actually there are plenty of really healthy over 60s ( like many of us here who HAVE to be healthy) so it’s time for people to think more carefully about age.

Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star
in reply to COYW

As we age no matter how healthy we are our immunity gradually lessens it part of the ageing process just like those lines of wisdom on our faces

😉

Off to my yoga class 🧘‍♀️

COYW
COYW
in reply to Milkfairy

It’s true but there’s a lot we can do to assist. Have fun in yoga. 👌

When shopping yesterday I bought the last bag of rice, goodness knows why there would be a run on that ( I had run out at home incidentally. I wasn’t panic buying). I noticed quite a few empty shelves while I was wandering around. I mentioned rice to the young chap on the till and he said people have been buying up olive oil.

I struggle to see why some things are running out. Even a fairly large family can only get through one loo roll a day and if you’re feeling under the weather you are unlikely to do any fancy cooking. Just get a few tins in, stock up the freezer and prepare to hunker down.

Rice selling 'like hotcakes' doesn't surprise me - it's like a wonder drug for stopping 'gastrointestinal symptoms' as long as what your body is trying it rid itself of isn't food poisoning. It and pasta are also filling and very useful to eke out smaller amounts of meat and sauces.

Rice and pasta ordinarily have a long shelf life (brown and 'wild' rice go rancid so needs to be rotated sooner) and don't require refrigeration. I always make sure I have plenty of both in the store cupboard.

Not sure why olive oil would be a top seller but you've reminded me I'm out and need to buy another bottle;) I make my own salad dressing and extra-virgin is a must have!

It’s because a lot of people aren’t as rational as you and only subscribe to a stockpile mentality when there is no absolute reason for this, people blame sensationalism in the media, but they then perpetuate that sensationalism by panic buying

Quietly and slowly added a little self-sustenance store since C19 hit the news. I read a book about extinction events at Christmas and it focused on knock-on effects being the issue rather than the incident itself. I’m not going to fuss about hand gel, washing hands properly was one of the habits I got from First Responder training. Stock your freezer/pantry up with essentials and some easy to prepare stuff so if you are stuck in for a couple of weeks.

The problem being those that are taking this seriously now, all at once, rather than a balanced slow prep.

I’m in the smug gang 🙂😊😎

I got in the habit of a month worth of food and supplies whilst living and working in the USA along the Gulf of Mexico - hurricane and tornado country. When I retired home to the UK I stuck to the habit, and a good thing, too - the first winter I was home (2010-2011) our little town was 'iced in' for days. My store cupboard kept my husband, me, and our neighbour and her two young girls supplied for over a week.

I rotate - I imagine you do as well. It's not on to not be prepared. Prudence over panic any day, makes life so much less stressful!

I had a look to see how many people die of the flu each year and there are normally many more than coronavirus. I think there's a lot of a scaremongering going on. I will just take care of myself as I do each winter.

ollie16
ollie16
in reply to panda22

Agree with your statement, panic buying is detrimental to those others that need things as well

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Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star
in reply to Hidden

Could I suggest we all try not to speculate. I will rely on the information provided by the NHS and Department of Health.

We are fortunate in the UK to have very experienced and knowledgeable experts. The London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine being just one of the many institutions with epidemiologists etc who understand how diseases spread.

lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/even...

The Government will have taken advice from these experts about measures to control the spread of the virus.

Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star
in reply to Milkfairy

Oh I forgot

I hope you are washing your hands because that is what we all need to do to stop this virus spreading

Statex
Statex
in reply to Milkfairy

Not really speculation information was from WHO

AGE

DEATH RATE

confirmed cases

DEATH RATE

all cases

80+ years old

21.9%

14.8%

70-79 years old

8.0%

60-69 years old

3.6%

50-59 years old

1.3%

40-49 years old

0.4%

30-39 years old

0.2%

20-29 years old

0.2%

10-19 years old

0.2%

0-9 years old

no fatalities

Statex
Statex
in reply to Statex

PRE-EXISTING CONDITION

DEATH RATE

confirmed cases

DEATH RATE

all cases

Cardiovascular disease

13.2%

10.5%

Diabetes

9.2%

7.3%

Chronic respiratory disease

8.0%

6.3%

Hypertension

8.4%

6.0%

Cancer

7.6%

5.6%

no pre-existing conditions

0.9

Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star
in reply to Statex

I suggest you follow the advice from the WHO, NHS and Department of Health

who.int/emergencies/disease...

Sneeze or cough into a tissue, bin the tissue straight away

Wash your hands

If you have no tissue sneeze cough into the crook of your arm

Keep washing your hands frequently especially after using public transport or entering a building

Avoid touching your face, eyes, mouth, or nose with your hands.

Could I ask what you are trying to achieve by posting the way you are?

We all need to be sensible and yes keep washing our hands.

We have many months yet to get through. Unnecessary anxiety and worry doesn't help any of us with heart disease.

I note in your profile that you say you do not have heart disease.

Hidden
Hidden

ITS THE MEDIA AND THE BBC THAT ARE STOKING UP THE PANIC - GETTING OUT OF HAND

Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star
in reply to Hidden

I suggest we look to the NHS information about the virus which is updated regularly.

nhs.uk/conditions/coronavir...

Helen_BHF
Helen_BHFAdministrator
in reply to Hidden

Accidental caps lock Hidden? :)

Gladwyn
Gladwyn
in reply to Helen_BHF

Maybe poor eyesight? In the past I've struggled to see.

Hidden
Hidden
in reply to Helen_BHF

It would appear that Helen is now judge and jury having removed my most recent post and since I have no right of reply or to have an alternative point of view, one that is not extreme, or inciting bizarre behavior, I will leave you to get on with your lives since you have decided I am not welcome unless I comply with the experts. I leave my followers and friends with regret

ollie16
ollie16
in reply to Hidden

Yes, but the media doesn’t force people into stores to panic buy, that is an individual choice

Smokie2D
Smokie2D
in reply to ollie16

Another problem is that the supply chain may be hit. e.g India has been reported as stopping export of some medicines, and China has had production interrupted in some areas. The downside of Globalisation is that a lot of stuff is made in countries with the highest populations and more chances of things kicking off!

A hint of empty shelves and prices rise and panic buying, vicious circle. Maybe newspapers will have some use after all!

ollie16
ollie16
in reply to Smokie2D

If there is limited supply ,then surely it should be limited to the buyer ,it’s basic economics ,buy in bulk, then everyone else suffers

Smokie2D
Smokie2D
in reply to ollie16

In some cases the first poor shop keeper knows is when middle man says their is none! Of course nothing works when people play the 'me first' card it's others that cause the problem! Reason and logic is usually the first casualty.

Heythrop51
Heythrop51
in reply to Hidden

I blame Sky myself! After all their owners publish tabloids as well!

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star

Corona beer on offer now as not selling well. The stupidity of some is beyond belief.

A supermarket up the road, in Biggleswade, allegedly let one person buy 200 bottles of sanitizer when others (if they have it) limit it to two. I cannot find any.

Local hardware shop was out of broom handles but cannot work out connection! 😁

Yasyass
Yasyass
in reply to MichaelJH

Everything online and don’t have worry if catching the virus😄

Handel
Handel
in reply to MichaelJH

I'd guess the idiots stocking up on hand sanitiser are going to sell it online at vastly inflated cost!! xx

ollie16
ollie16
in reply to Handel

They are absolutely

Smokie2D
Smokie2D
in reply to ollie16

Some clots are using cheap booze to sanitise their hands. That's not going to help, it will get rid of that bottle of booze Aunty Flo gave us for Xmas 10 years ago! ( Thats if its not melted the bottle)

ollie16
ollie16
in reply to MichaelJH

Idiots putting them on EBay for extortionate prices

Qualipop
Qualipop
in reply to MichaelJH

THat will be to sell on at a massively inflated price. Just sheer greed.

hardly any toilet paper in shops, shelves empty of paracetamol in 3/4 shops I went into over the past few days (and that’s a lot of people buying as you’re only allowed two packets of 16 at a time). No soap and hand wash. If I can’t get any I’ll just use shower gel or wash up liquids (it’s still soap!).

Ijust got abox of 32 from my local chemist- no problems at all

Dovaston
Dovaston
in reply to Qualipop

😳

I was in Sainsburys on Wednesday. I was looking for limescale remover but noticed a bit gap where anti-bacterial cleaning wipes should have been. The loo roll shelves were half empty!

The newspapers are stoking the panic buying. I just bought our loo rolls a week earlier than usual. Apart from paracetamol, we always have enough in the house to last through any illness. I saw one woman who'd bought a suitcase full of food and hand wash. Utterly stupid

Hidden
Hidden

Whilst I always maintain good hand hygiene (most people don’t wash backs of hands or between fingers/under nails - just watch others when you next use a public loo), this virus is an airborne one - spread by droplet from coughing/sneezing, so hand washing may add a layer of protection, but it’s more important to stay away from others who have these symptoms and self isolate if you develop them.

Trouble is, the usual cold & flu viruses are still around - people have to work & the self-employed get no sick pay. Catch22

Pat x

My sister came today telling me someone walked into the shops wearing a carry bag and goggles why the goggles I’m wondering

Gladwyn
Gladwyn
in reply to Yasyass

Oh that's soooo funny .... I'm crying with laughter here !

Missbehavin
Missbehavin
in reply to Yasyass

Might have something to do with the advice not to touch your face, mouth and eyes if you've not washed and sanitize your hands after being out and touching things like supermarket trolley and basket handles, door handles, traffic light buttons etc.

Heythrop51
Heythrop51
in reply to Yasyass

Did she take a picture?

I have to admit I am guilty of buying more than we need Well it is for my Wife !!

Today I bought 18 Bottles of Villa Maria Sauvignon Blanc at a knock down price in a Supermarket that begins with M

I was asked why I had bought so much so I had to tell the truth " it's to wash my Hands with, should we run out of Soap "

When I told my wife that's the Summer taken Care of she just replied " Don't be hasty the Spring Maybe "

Regards

Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star
in reply to Prada47

Thanks for the heads up on the place to go for New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc.

Please shout out a similar deal for Chilean Merlot 😁

kefalonia1
kefalonia1
in reply to Prada47

Hi, what a fantastic Husband you are, l am showing mine your post so he stockpiles the same for me. "Happy wife, Happy life" !!! Another saying that men who have lost their hair are proud to say, "Bold on the head, good in bed" lf it works for them why not.

kefalonia1
kefalonia1
in reply to Prada47

Sorry, spelt bald wrong.

Lezzers
Lezzers
in reply to Prada47

😂

It's the greed of individuals that gets to me.... totally selfish! 😱

I was in the fairly local Asda store at 11pm and was surprised at the number of cars parked at that time. I noticed one man buying 8 boxes x 48 of baby wipes - he has a small shop close to me - 3 miles from Asda. No doubt bought at the sale price of 65p and in his store at £1.50 each. I noticed he loaded the items into his van and went back again.

I have stocked up with toilet rolls as this is number one to go short, and a relative in Midland, Western Australia, says they are a can't buy item over there.

Best it seems to have a good stock of tinned food that come from abroad. It takes a long time to ship the products.

Many will say it's wrong to stock up. However, like it or not, it is everyone for themselves as some are buying to sell on later at sky high prices.

----

Cough on the floor not on the door.

ollie16
ollie16
in reply to Auiron

It’s that mentality that makes it very difficult for sensible people that shop for what they need, not what they don’t need.

Good old fashioned manners of putting hand over sneezing, coughing etc!!!

The news media primary goal is readership and selling copies online through page hits or hard copy. Which means they are pretty much fueling the panic because they have the above agenda. No news is good news right? So the LAST thing they are going to do is provide real factual data without skewing stats to sell more fear and thus copy.

The media need to publicise that around 1,400 poor souls die EVERY DAY in the UK.. just to put things into perspective and stop the panic.

ollie16
ollie16
in reply to Kowalski442

Absolutely

Just popped into local chemist and got a box of 32 paracetamol as we were running out and I take it daily to make my opiate work better. No problem at all.

You can probably guess from my username what I do. At present there is no hand sanitizer available at the Cash & Carry - I use several different ones, anti bac hand soap in short supply as are anti bac wipes. Have even come across those who won't go to the Chinese Takeaway in case they catch it. To me a lot has been blown out of all proportion.

Believe about 1% of what you read in the papers. Today's Daily Mail has a headline "Costco spraying customers with disinfectant". The Mirror says "Costco spraying trolley handles with disinfectant". The Express has nothing. Headlines like that are just designed to sell papers and create panic.

Hidden
Hidden

I will start to panic if there’s a genuine shortage of Terry’s chocolate orange, oh and crisps. Dunno why I’ve got heart disease you know 😅

Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star
in reply to Hidden

Does it have to be the milk chocolate or dark chocolate version?

Any particular flavour of crisps?

On the subject of hand sanitiser, Covid-19 is a virus, not bacteria which is what many sanitisers are formulated for. I am not sure that they will actually work on viruses. If that is the case, then purchasing them is a complete waste of time.

Sunnie2day
Sunnie2day
in reply to GWP1952

The current advice is to use a 60%+alcohol based hand sanitiser gels when out and about where hand wash basins and taps aren't available.

The alcohol is effective against most virus and as the professional advice is to use alcohol based sanitisers, the safe assumption is the alcohol is apparently effective against the current coronavirus.

I skip the additives - I buy 70% isopropyl alcohol, put it in a refillable spray bottle (I use an old SpecSavers lens cleaning fluid bottle) and carry that everywhere. Before I touch anything I hit it with the spray. So far so good - I've been doing it since the 2009 flu pandemic.I was coughed on by a colleague, was in hospital for two weeks, and one of the nurses told me about isopropyl alcohol. Haven't caught anything since so clearly it works.

It seems about time all shops limited the quantity of these items that people are terrified of not having. I have always carried small hand sanitizer in my bag and it is over 70% alcohol (I understand it should be over 60% to work). I have several 'underlying' health conditions but don't intend panicking. I always wash my hands regularly and well, so in that respect nothing will change. The only thing I will do is not take my elderly mother (88) shopping as she is very frail and has dementia so I'll keep her away from crowds just in case for the time being.

Hidden
Hidden

The following was a response on my local news website to an article about empty shelves in the shops:

"Exactly. No one should be panic buying, particularly for the absolute essentials that are running out fast such as toilet roll, toothpaste, baked beans, pot noodles and paracetamol."

Damn! I forgot to get pot noodles and baked beans

Sunnie2day
Sunnie2day
in reply to Hidden

My husband just said the same thing! I showed him our well stocked store cupboard with 12 tins of baked beans.

I then reminded him the reason I don't usually buy pot noodles - the very high salt content means I can't have any and as I'm the 'chief cook and bottle washer' and we usually eat the same things, pot noodles haven't been on the menu.

However, we've now agreed he can now pop down the shops to see if there are any left on the shelf for him to stock up a few for his personal consumption;) Bonus - if there is any lav roll he's to bring home a 24 roll pack, and at least two more boxes of balm facial tissue.

Its the media who are causing the panic buying and saribg people. They should be shut down!!!

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star

I need a couple of metric spanners and went to the local hardware shop. None available in size I want as supply chain disrupted.

The recent suggestion by a government advisor that we do not need agriculture and could import all our food shows he should be certified!

That guy is a total idiot. Give Halfords a try.

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star
in reply to MichaelJH

Just brought the last combination spanner set at a fairly local motor factors. All the Halfords are now at retail parks that are fairly inaccessible without a car - why I need the spanners!

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star

Reasnobly successful day as managed to buy 4 toilet rolls (only 1.5 left!) and 32 Paracetamol. But no skimmed milk or fresh berries!

Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star
in reply to MichaelJH

Why does everyone buy loos rolls?

There is no research based evidence to suggest they prevent the transmission of coronavirus😂

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star
in reply to Milkfairy

Apparently the logic is you need a few to self isolate for two weeks but around here I think some individual either use a dozen rolls per person per day or it is a stomach bug!

In an emergency you can recycle newspapers - the FT has a pleasant hue!

Dovaston
Dovaston
in reply to MichaelJH

😂

Lezzers
Lezzers
in reply to MichaelJH

The tabloids are definitely fit for purpose!!

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star
in reply to Lezzers

Especially some politicians! I think you can guess Lezzers but I best not say who! 😁 Or shall I start a thread for suggestions? 🤣

Lezzers
Lezzers
in reply to MichaelJH

Will coronavirus be on the thread?

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star
in reply to Lezzers

No, it's called recycling! 😁

Milkfairy
MilkfairyHeart Star
in reply to MichaelJH

It's a delicious thought about which politicians face will be on the section of newspaper that you will use to wipe😂

Maybe the guy who said we don't need agriculture. PYO strawberries always taste better than flown it ones. We have a farm shop that grows its own seasonal produce. With my new Mediterranean diet I will be visiting more this coming year.

Yasyass
Yasyass
in reply to Milkfairy

Because everyone so afraid they keep going to loo🤣

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