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This is the complaint I sent to PALS whilst in hospital .

I have severe COPD and was brought by ambulance on the 27th may 2020, I have been shielding myself since 16th march and can proudly say although it's been hard going and very lonely and tough at times not seeing family or friends etc I have done really well .

I was assured that I'd be safe coming into hospital , I'd be separate from the Covid 19 patients , I arrived very safely at A&E , cant fault the paramedics or staff of A&E who clearly know how to keep myself and themselves safe , it was decided that as my sats were so low I needed to have oxygen and would go up to a ward at some point.

The nurses only came into my room as and when they needed to for tests obs etc , when the ward was ready to receive me myself and the nurse transferring me were waiting for a porter , he arrived and came straight to my bedside, no PPE whatsover , the nurse challenged him saying I was a potential covid patient, he replied " oh it's ok we are safe ", he went outside to put on PPE an I heard him say " what about the people going to the beaches ? " now I work at the Homerton hospital as a nursing assistant in theatres and clearly know of the potential risks , so when he came back inside to transfer me I told him straight that I heard his attitude and if more people were to think the same we would be in a worse state than we are currently , I said dont worry about people at the beaches , we need to think of ourselves and others around us, he muttered something I didnt quite catch .

We went up to floor 11 , room 24 , I felt safe in my own room except the bathroom light wasnt working , I had to.leave the door open so I could see safely , this is a privacy and dignity issue in itself but at these challenging times I appreciate that only essential works are being carried out , but this is also a health and safety issue as you need to be able to see whilst in the bathroom, I told 1 of the nurses about the problem. It was still not working when I was transferred the next night up to the 13th floor.

Midday today 28th may a Dr arrived at my room to take some bloods and switch off the oxygen for 10 minutes , he left the room for said 10 minutes, he knocked and came back in to take bloods , it suddenly dawned on me that he had no PPE on at all and I asked him.should he not be wearing it ? He informed me that he had caught covid in February 2020 when it had struck lots of other Drs , ok fair enough but what about the potential risk to me ? I told him I'd worked too hard shielding to be now put at risk like this, he agreed maybe he should have PPE on , his bleep went off and he left the room to answer it , he'd not managed to get enough blood for the sample and had to come back to repeat on my other wrist, before he came back into the room I could clearly gear the sound of the apron roll turning and knew I'd shamed him using it , yes battle won , but in reality as healthcare professionals they shouldn't need telling about these things , there was complaints when there were issues in obtaining the correct PPE equipment, so now its available use it as the guidelines advise .

Later that evening I was told I was moving to 13th floor, to the respiratory ward, transfer was very good , PPE all round etc , I was put into a side room , I had just learnt that my covid test was negative to my relief, although I had every faith in my good shielding, so I'm in this new room and a nurse comes inside to do a BM , she has gloves and apron on but NO MASK , obviously I have apologised but challenge her to the whereabouts of her mask ?to which she says she was passing and thought she would pop.in quickly and do the test , I told her about my shielding and her lack of PPE , she told me she didnt want to catch covid either.

I am totally gob smacked with the slap dash attitudes of these 3 people and can clearly understand how so many healthcare professionals have put themselves at so much risk , don't get me wrong the majority of staff who have had contact with me have been totally and utterly amazing but these buffoons and that's the nicest word I can use at the moment have caused me great distress , I cant even think of sleeping tonight as I am too wound up and upset to the extent of tears and really fearing for my safety and wanting to ask if i can be sent home , which could be fatal for me in my current health crisis.

I'm not sure its it because i work myself in the NHS that I can see things clearly others seem to overlook.

Hopefully I'll be going home tomorrow where I feel secure , very lonely but safe and cocooned in my own little bubble.

Later that same night I was unable to sleep through fear of somebody else entering my room without mask etc , a nurse comes asks if I need anything? I say yes a cup of tea plz , she comes back and I realise she has no mask etc , when I challenged her on this she simply replied she has no symptoms and has no obligation to wear PPE , I explained to her that I'm high risk , she said she wont come in without a mask again .

I had 45 mins sleep that night , when the drs came next morning I had a total meltdown, I was like a 5 year old having a tantrum , I had explained to my son that if 1 more person comes in without a mask I'm likely to kill , he had to phone and tell the drs to put a sign on my door saying wear mask before entering , which everyone abided by and I was far happier , I feel that I shouldn't have had to behave in that manner but felt they was treating me like I was just a neurotic woman .

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I agree with everything you said, these people should know better. We shield ourselves and then people like them put us at risk. Well done you for sticking up for yourself, hope you get better and go home very soon have a great day and take care of yourself 😊 Bernadette xx xx 🌈

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Nannykarr in reply toDamon1864

Thank you , I'm home again safe .

Karen x

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Damon1864Volunteer in reply toNannykarr

I have servers COPD so I panic, but I'm so pleased you are home, stay safe. 🤗 Bernadette xxxx💐🌈

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Hacienda

Dear Nannykarr, Words Fail me. I am also Severe, Shielding since February. As you are an Experienced Nurse , more than most, You Know first Hand how this Hospital Stay should have Treated You. When I was in Hospital with Exacerbation & Pneumonia, Few Years ago, The Nurses Did put a Post up outside my Door, NO Mask, NO Entry. Every one Obliged. I do feel for you Hun, I hope your Home and in your Safety environment. Get Better as much as you Can very Soon. . Sleep well. Love n Gentle Hugs. XXX C.

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Nannykarr in reply toHacienda

Thank you , I found it so scary and my mental health was beginning to suffer .

I'm now home thankfully.

Stay safe .

Karen x

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Hacienda in reply toNannykarr

So Relieved that your Home Karen, Stay Relaxed as much as you Can Hun. XXX C.

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Sops

Gosh, what a hard time and how harrowing for you. I am sorry that you have been treated so poorly.

Years ago i had to complain to PALs when my husband died, in distressing circumstances, and i instigated a full NHS enquiry. My friend went with me to the meeting where Matron, consultant and their advisers were present the consultant’s opening comment was that he did hoped it would not drag on as he was a very busy person. My friend pointed out that she was a head of Ofsted and that i was a special needs consultant and on it went. Justice was achieved eventually at a large personal cost.

Look after yourself, i wish you all the best.

Sopsx

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Nannykarr in reply toSops

Thank you , sorry to hear that .

Karen x

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chubby2x22

Crikey I hope our hospital staff are better with the ppe, I go in next Wednesday for op, I am worried sick without more trauma. Hope you feel better now you are home. Jane

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Nannykarr in reply tochubby2x22

Plz dont worry , it was a very small minority and the others were great .

Hope all goes well with op .

Karen x

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sassy59

I’m so pleased you’re safe at home now Karen. What a horrible ordeal for you. I do hope you get some feedback from PALS and soon. You’ve had a terrible time but now you must focus on getting well. Pete is still shielding as am I right alongside him.

Stay safe. Xxxx😘

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Nannykarr in reply tosassy59

Thanks , been onto PALS again as it's been a week .

Keep taking good care of Pete .

Karen x

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sassy59 in reply toNannykarr

Good for you Karen.

I will, Pete’s in good hands.

Take care, Carole xxxxx

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Nannykarr in reply tosassy59

Pete's in the best hands possible I'm sure , keep up the great job your doing.

Karen x

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sassy59 in reply toNannykarr

Thank you Karen, I will. You’re very kind.

Carole xxxx

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Nannykarr in reply tosassy59

I only speak as I find Carole x

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sassy59 in reply toNannykarr

Much appreciated. Xxx

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Carnival567 in reply toNannykarr

Hospitals have complaints departments separate from PALS, who would be much more helpful, or you could do what I did and write to the CEO. The doctor I complained about got sent on a bedside manner improvement course. (Not its proper name)

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Nannykarr in reply toCarnival567

Thanks , I'll be looking into that 1st thing monday morning.

Stay safe.

Karen x

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wheezyof

What a terrible experience. A long time back I worked as a hospital domestic. Even we knew that extra care had to be taken for some patients. Signs were hung on doors saying if it was barrier nursing, if it was to protect the patient from us or us from the patient.

I'm glad you are home again. Your justifiable 'temper tantrum' may have saved another vulnerable patient's life. You have reminded the staff of some essential rules. Well done xx

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Nannykarr in reply towheezyof

Thank you , I hope others are not being put through similar ordeals.

Karen x

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peege

My commiserations.

My daughter was in a Buckinghamshire hospital recently, her 6 year old having repeated post corvid, scary issues. She said it was stressful, where they were waiting they could see many staff including doctors and nurses in corridors greeting each other, having chats with none of them safe distancing let alone wearing any form of ppe. None of the staff touching little one wore ppe and it's on her notes that on no account can she go back to school &/or catch corvid again. It's very worrying indeed.

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Nannykarr in reply topeege

It seems that some of them think they're immune to it but that dont help our worries does it .

Karen x

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CDPO16

What a dreadful experience. You did so well to stand up for yourself even though you shouldn't have had to do so. I read your post with some disbelief that NHS professionals could be so cavalier in their attitude. I hope that your complaint achieves results for you. I hope too that now that you are back home that you will be gradually able to relax. I can well understand that your nerves are shredded. Best wishes to you xx

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Nannykarr in reply toCDPO16

Thank you , I've gotten onto them again today as I'd have thought I should have been contacted by a week later .

Karen x

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CDPO16 in reply toNannykarr

Sorry to hear that you are having to chase your complaint up, and, although I have no experience to be able to tell how long these things take, I hope that you don't have to keep doing that. Wishing you well.

Carole xx

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Nannykarr in reply toCDPO16

Its unbelievable that we have to fight for our rights to safety.

Thank you .

Stay safe.

Karen x

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tomc

Glad your home safe in spite of your experience in hospital.

I agree with you totally and well done for sticking up for yourself and for educating those who think they are well educated... Big thumbs up for you :-)

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Nannykarr in reply totomc

Thanks Tom , case of having to stand up for myself as no one else is going to do it , I've learnt that I'm my main priority x

Karen x

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Angelagone

And they wonder why people are scared to go to hospital? Glad to hear you're home and on the mend, Karen.

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Nannykarr in reply toAngelagone

Thank you.

Stay safe.

Karen x

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Kristicats

Absolutely unbelievable !! No wonder no one wants to go to hospital 😳😳

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Nannykarr in reply toKristicats

I know .

Stay safe.

Karen x

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Exocist

Hi.

Words fail me. are you home now. .make sure your complaint goes to m.d

At hospital trust.

Godbless.

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Nannykarr in reply toExocist

Yes home now, thank you .

Stay safe.

Karen x

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Ergendl

Oh, how awful! I had a series of complaints after being admitted for a knee replacement in 2004, and despite my being a registered dietitian at the time and well aware of safe practices, my complaints were ignored and belittled. Some hospitals have very poor practices, and you were right to complain. Just so sad you had to have a melt-down to get the message across.

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Nannykarr in reply toErgendl

Sorry to hear of your bad experience, I'm still wondering whether to make my concerns more public .

Stay safe .

Karen x

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Ergendl in reply toNannykarr

You've done the right first step by going to PALS. If you take it further, it keeps the bad experience in your thoughts a lot longer, so may interfere with you getting over it. Nevertheless, I continued with my complaint because I didn't want others to go through what I had.

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Deep-Purple

That sounds like a stressful nightmare and Im very shocked by your account !

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Nannykarr in reply toDeep-Purple

Oh it was indeed , I needed the comfort and security of being back in my own space .

Stay safe .

Karen x

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