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Q:What is euthyroidism?

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A: QUICK ANSWER is i wish i would of never asked.

According to my blood test results are consistent with Euthyroidism.

Well what ever that is BUT would explain why am so ill.

Such as nonthyroidal illness or Euthyroid sick syndrome well what ever they are mean.

But defo regret finding out.

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mrsmummy

Stop worrying. According to wickipedia:

Euthyroid is the state of having normal thyroid gland function. Examples of a nonfunctioning thyroid gland may be hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism, or thyroiditis.

"Euthyroid: The state of having normal thyroid gland function. As opposed to hyperthyroid (overactive thyroid) or hypothyroid (underactive thyroid). Last Editorial Review: 10/30/2013."

google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j...

in reply tomrsmummy

Hi Missmummy i thought that too but said euthyroidism and reference books i looked at talked about TSH looking normal but the not .. and thats where euthyroidism comes from.

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mrsmummy in reply to

Well I am no expert and my info came after Googling but I think trying to diagnose yourself via the Internet is asking for problems. :)

in reply tomrsmummy

I think ya right as far as diagnosing myself .

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Badbessie

If I remember my anatomy and physiology it's means a normal thyroid function. Doctor's never speak in plain English.

in reply toBadbessie

Hi cheers yer i seen that too THEN it said was not normal as look ok but not.

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Hello so sorry can't give any help on this one, but I am sure somebody on here can offer you some help and advice. Let us know how you are doing.take care and good luck 🍀😊 xxx

in reply toDamon1864

Hi cheers n thanks .. Think as something to do with igm antibodies.

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Badbessie

secondary allostasis of thyroid function in fetal life, starving and in critical illness

Euthyroid sick syndrome

Euthyroid sick syndrome (ESS), sick euthyroid syndrome (SES), thyroid allostasis in critical illness, tumours, uremia and starvation (TACITUS), non-thyroidal illness syndrome (NTIS) or low T3 low T4 syndrome is a state of adaptation or dysregulation of thyrotropic feedback control[1] where the levels of T3 and/or T4 are at unusual levels, but the thyroid gland does not appear to be dysfunctional.

This condition is often seen in starvation, critical illness or patients in intensive care unit. The most common hormone pattern in sick euthyroid syndrome is a low total and unbound T3 levels with normal T4 and TSH levels.

Causes of euthyroid sick syndrome include a number of acute and chronic conditions, including pneumonia, fasting, starvation, anorexia nervosa, sepsis, trauma, cardiopulmonary bypass, malignancy, stress, heart failure, hypothermia, myocardial infarction, chronic renal failure, cirrhosis, and diabetic ketoacidosis.[1]

Euthyroid sick syndrome (non-thyroidal illness syndrome) has been assumed closely related with a series of diseases, (such as inflammatory bowel disease).[2]

in reply toBadbessie

Hi thats what i found euthyroidism means .. Think it means thats normal for those who are diseased ill

Bit like your post states GUESS thats why my doc said nout as quite normal

If am lucky be strees :o

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SeasideSusie

It just means that your test results fall within the reference range. But of course, that doesn't mean all is well. It depends on where in the range they fall and what symptoms you are experiencing.

As a diagnosed/tteated Hypothyroidism​ patient of over 40 years, I've learned from bitter experience that doctors know very little about how to treat Hypothyroidism, endocrinologists aren't much better as they mostly tend to specialise in diabetes. I've learned to interpret thyroid test results and know what else is important in the proper treatment of HypOthyroidism. I'm not so hot on HypERthyroidism

If you pop over to the thyroid forum on Health Unlocked with your results, you will get a lot of help.

healthunlocked.com/thyroiduk

in reply toSeasideSusie

Hi yer i had quick scout around site ... There saying same as us about it .

Cheers and thanks again

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pippan

The problem in this country is they rarely test your T3 so the results they do get may look in range (the range itself in the UK is contentious) and tell you all is okay. When in fact you could well have a problem with conversion of T4 to active T3 leaving you feeling very unwell.

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knitter in reply topippan

That's true pippa, I developed a small goitre, pop eyes, weight loss, anxiety and was still within the so called normal range.

in reply topippan

My doctors told me nothing about my blood test results and euthyroidism.

I think its like you say conversion issue HOW and why guess all have to talk to my lung doctor as gos tell me nout.

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SeasideSusie in reply to

You ask for a print out of your results, as is your legal entitlement under the Data Protection Act. The doctor won't tell you anything other than 'fine' or 'normal'.

Get your results for TSH, FT4 and FT3, also thyroid antibodies, Vit D, B12, Folate and Ferritin. Post them on the thyroid forum and they will interpret them for you. Lung doctor won't know much about interpreting thyroid tests other than to tell you if they are in range

in reply toSeasideSusie

Hi My B12 - 281 ugl & Serum Folate 5.8 ugl.

TSH level 1.79 mul & Serum free T4 level 14 pmol.

Serum 25-HO Vit D2 10 mnol & Serum Vit D3 125.3 mnol.

Platlet count 226 10*9/L

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SeasideSusie in reply to

Your B12 at 281is too low, anything under 500 can cause neurological problems, recommended level is very top of it's range, even 900-1000. It's not possible to comment on folate as there's no reference range, it should be at least half way through it's range. B12 and folate work together. You could supplement your B12 with sublingual methylcobalamin lozenges and when supplementing with B12 take a B Complex to balance all the B vits.

Vit D is good. Recommended is for total Vit D to be 100-150nmol/L.

If you are not diagnosed/treated hypothyroid then your TSH is in a good place, most healthy people have a TSH of about 2 or below.

FT4 without the reference range can't be interpreted, ranges differ from lab to lab, there is no universal range for thyroid tests. Most healthy people would have FT4 half way through range or above.

Platelets are within the reference range of approx 150-450 10*9/L

in reply toSeasideSusie

Hi Cheers defo agree about test looking at my old blood test refrance ranges do very.

In uk b12 only get treated when its 150 a think.

Few of my results seem

To be on just above but like you say its all down to labs

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SeasideSusie in reply to

"In uk b12 only get treated when its 150 a think."

That's about right. They only care about being within the range. When the range is something like 150-770 how can 151 and 769 both be 'fine' or 'normal'. Same with ferritin, Vit D, TSH, FT3, FT4, etc. So you supplement yourself to optimal levels to help yourself be as well as possible.

in reply toSeasideSusie

I tried supplements and nearly killed me .

So had to stop after week.

I cant understand how in range but say about Euthyroidism.

Only thing i can see on bloods is MCV 99 fl & MCH 31 Pg

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SeasideSusie in reply to

As I said, euthyroid means 'normal' as in 'in range', so if your results come back anywhere within the range, even if it is by just 0.1 then you would be classed as euthyroid. This is where diagnosis and treatment of thyroid disease is so wrong and leaves people very ill, they are relying on numbers only not symptoms.

Are you saying you have symptoms that you think are connected with Hypothyroidism? Is this why you have had thyroid function tests?

Have you had Thyroid Peroxidase antibodies tested (rarely​ done)? Thyroglobulin antibodies ( almost never done on the NHS except maybe by a good endocrinologist)? Positive antibodies mean autoimmune thyroid disease and you can have this before it shows up in TSH, FT4 and FT3 tests.

Also, if you have low normal (in range) TSH along with low normal FT4 and FT3, then this can point to central/secondary hypothyroidism which is where the problem lies with the pituitary or the hypothalamus rather than the thyroid. This isn't very common so doctors either don't know about it or don't think about it.

What supplements did you try? We should only supplement if we've been tested and found to be deficient. Also, poor quality, cheap supplements (think Holland and Barrett, Boots or supermarket own brands) contain the cheapest and frequently the wrong form of ingredients with lots of unnecessary fillers etc that we could react to.

You need to give ranges for any results, it's not possible to interpret them without because there's no knowing if you are under or over range or where within range, it's all important.

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shouty

Just had sputum results back still brewing Haemopilis bacteria oh goody 3rd round antibiotics and quoted Mycoplasm on CT scan ... the wonderful world of medical terminology eh !

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katieoxo60

Hi Jeff having read the reply posts I can see why you wished you had never asked. But I am glad of the info as I have never heard of it before only the usual Thyroid problems which my husband had and took tablets for. Thyroid imbalance can cause allsorts of symptoms. Enjoy your day

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