A little while ago I saw some posts about the seeming miracle effect of Vitamin D with Vitamin K having the abilty to switch the Gene back on, that regrows lung tissue. It was stated that this was not a quick cure, but was a slow growing process that achieved permanent results. Has anyone heard any more about it ?
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Vitamin D & K - What's The Story ?
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HI Fred M8,I am talking to a man who has his wife who was given 2 weeks to live a couple years ago. He searched and found a method they are using with Vitamin A and Vitamin D. His wife is now able to take the bus to town and shop and has been told she is definetly recovering .This is the dosage he shared with me. 1000 IU vitamin A AND 500 IU vitamin D Mourning ,noon and tea time .This is working for her and there is also something i have been studying on and they are having great success with this also.Google Hydrogen Peroxide Food Grade 35% .I am starting bot h treatments imediately .The HP Treatment calls for the Vitamins also plus probiotics .just google the food grade HP treating copd/emphysema....GOOD LUCK AND GOD bLESS
Hi it is not a recognised cure but it has been done in clinical trials on mice - not sure about people. Please be aware that too many vitamins can cause health problems so it is probably best to ask your doctor first. x
Seaelf in reply to
Yes ask Doctor.
Also research well safe dose levels. The mayo clinic is a good source of info on vit A.
helingmic in reply to
have you noticed hair growing in your ears, coughalot2!
Sorry about this. I am glad to know that some people ca get on with this high dose. I take vit A with cod liver oil and Vit D, and C+ zinc (for the immune system). But I am cautious about having big doses. OK if you find it helps, but be cautious, Mic
helenann12 IS THE MAN i SPOKE TO AND IM SORRY IT IS 5000 IU OF VITAMIN A ,IM NOT SURE ABOUT ANYONE ELSE NOR AM I PROMOTEING A CURE . I AM DYING SO THE WAY I SEE IT IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS SHOWING PROMISE IN NOT ONLY MICE ,BUT THIS MANS WIFE I INTEND TO TRY IT ! SORRY ABOUT THE ALL CAPITAL LETTERS I AM NOT YELLING LOL .I ONLY NOTICED HALF WAY THROUGH AND DID NOT WANT TO TYPE IT AGAIN... AND YES HE DID SAY MOURNING NOON AND TEA TIME .I am American so im afraid i do not know when tea time is 
I have suffered from this horrible diease since i was 39 and now i am 50 .I want a chance to be better as im sure we all do .Thank you for the warning and I will speak to my DR. about this.....
Hi Delaney. I'm sorry to hear your so poorly and I agree with you, it can't hurt to try helanann's vitimin A treatment. I'm going to try it myself.
The safe dose has been discussed on here extensively. If I remember rightly its important because over dosing can cause liver damage It is best that we all check with pir Gp that we're OK to take them.
As for what time is teatime, it's our evening meal. I think you call it dinner in the USA.
I wish you the best of luck with the vitimin A, and I hope you'll keep in touch with the forum, concerning your progress. xx
Without doing a search for helenann's posts I think he suggested the vitamins should be taken in the morning and evening. I don't recall him saying they should be taken three times a day.
I was interested in this post when I read it and enquired of my GP about the vitamins that were given. He told me that vitamin D is good for bones and vitamin A is good for teeth, nails and hair! So I cannot understand how on earth these can in any way make any difference to your lungs? Anybody know/ XX
No sorry, Not very convincing.
Not trying to convince you of anything, just pointing out that both A and D have many functions beyond those mentioned by your GP.
As regards a specific connection to lung health there's this for vit D: medpagetoday.com/Infectious...
And as for vit A, note this quote from the link in my post above:
'One form of Vitamin A, retinoic acid, is a key hormone-like growth factor for epithelial cells and other cell types in the body.'
The connection of that with lungs explained here:
'The Epithelial Cell in Lung Health and Emphysema Pathogenesis':
I did not mean it to be aimed at you ST, just was not convinced by those reports. Just read the other two.
First report
1/ I do not, and have never had TB
2/ I'm not Korean
Second report clearly states that no improvement was shown in tests with vitamin A on humans .
Thanks anyway.
Of course if you don't want to take supplements of these vitamins that's entirely up to you, but just to address the points you made:
The vit D related improvement in FEV1 was 'most prominent' in TB patients, not limited to them.
Koreans are not a different species.
Yes, it says: 'Importantly, a three month trial of atRA in human COPD patients demonstrated no reversal of emphysema.'
But that was a single short-term trial, with only 20 subjects:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/118...
Quote:
'. . . We conclude that ATRA is well tolerated in patients with emphysema, and trials evaluating higher doses, longer treatment, or different dosing schedules are feasible.'
I didn't think that Koreans WERE a different species, but their life styles are very different to ours and it definitely makes a difference to the outcome.
A 3 month trial proves nothing, and by the time they've managed to figure something positive out, most of us won't be around to benefit from it anyway. There is nowhere near enough research taking place into lung disease even though it's one of our highest killers. Even if you dared to look at a cigarette during your life time, that's it.....that's what caused whatever you have, so "Here's a puffer, cough up all you can (never mind the strain it puts on your heart over the years) and exercise (even though you can't breathe.)"
The person that that finally discovers a reversal for lungs will be a like a God - nothing less!
I agree with your last comment Nikkers so true.
Otherwise i re echo those saying we need to take initiative based on what research we can get . Re the Vit A thing research does n t look that great but
was limited perhaps its a logical step ( and especially
one to take if dying !!)
that one notes well safety levels and gives it a bash
Oh yes , and after speaking
with Doctor....
Stilltruckin is ,i think, someone who knows her research and has faired well taking alot of vitamins
and is not dying !
Three moths of trials are useless.
For the benefit of my fellow COPD victims, don't rely on everything your doc knows or says. Out of a multiple of docs in my history not one mentioned the importance of vitamin supplements regarding patient health. For the best info available go to the MAYO CLINIC website and you will find vitamin deficiency related to almost any disease. Just as importantly, governments have published many flawed documents which under estimate minimum daily allowances. I am now on 5,000 units of vitamin D3, many times their daily requirement suggestion. There are many other web sites written by medical experts regarding the need for more vitamin supplements than most of us have been aware. And, yes, one can overdose on vitamins if blindly accepting non-authoritative advice. Personal research is vital.
I have gone through numerous serious health issues which could have been avoided had docs done the job we pay for. They are not mean people by and large, just overloaded with too many patients and have neither time nor inclination to stay abreast of modern research.
So, as Graham of Nottingham has proven, one must take personal issues seriously enough to do one's own research. And keep in mind that docs are fearful of lawsuits if they do not follow old, often outmoded, accepted practices. All of which speaks to the value of this blog site.
Dave
I have sarcoidosis which is a very unusual problem. May I point out that if you have saroidosis you should NOT take vitamin D. There are lots of websites on this subject explaining why.
You are so right sarcoid123. My hubby has sarc and COPD and was told to avoid Vitamin D. He also has vitiligo so has to be very careful in the sun as the paler skin burns easily.
Hi , I know I have mentioned it before on similar threads on this topic, but if any woman who I trying to get pregnant or pregnant already should not take high dose Vitamin A.
Other people have to balance Vit A and D ...please check with the NHS choice website on vitamins
Thanks a bundle ! This is what I was thinking of when I made my posting.
Make sure you give us all progress reports as and when, as this sounds VERY interesting.
Thanks again.
Thank you for clearing g up my mess,,Right after reading your post to me .I came across the question about Vitamin D and K .I shared your story and caused some confusion .I'm so glad you came along to report on your story .I'm have began the treatment you have done with your wife and I thank you so much for giving me some hope ! Blessings from across the Puddle ....
I wanted to ask you if there was in paticular brand I should use or do you just buy the most cost effective ,there are so many diffrent vitamin brands and supposedly some are more pure .I have found myself so confused on what I need to purchase .Thank you for all your time and concern and yes I will definetly pass this along to anyone who will listen ...
Hi Pat and Graham, I have a question .I have been reading some of your older post and you said in those 400iu of the vitaminD.Then I read the ones from you and I and you have said 400iu I remember you told me we could not get the 500 here in the U,S ut I do believe you can order it ,I have not tried yet.U want to make sure which one I need ? I do hope this finds you both do exceptional today and the very best to you both ....Thank you delane
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