Covid vacine

[starveycat]

Does anyone know if it's safe for severe asthmatics

[twinkly29]

I imagine it is or they'd have said but that's something you need to ask a doctor - people on here could say yes or no and it be completely unfounded (having seen the guff that people shared as fact on Twitter yesterday, it's best to ask medical professionals!)

[Poobah]

We don't have that information as I doubt anyone with severe asthma took part in the covid vaccine trials. However, whenever any vaccine is administered, the patient is asked to remain on the premises for 10 minutes just in case there's an immediate reaction. They are also given a fact sheet and advised how to access emergency care in the event of a later reaction. Some volunteers who took part in the covid vaccine trials have been sharing their experiences in order to allay people's fears. Their reactions appear similar to having a flu vaccine when the immune system reacts mildly and then settles.

[Hazel1010 in reply to Poobah]

On a lighter note , I hope they don’t give me a list of side effects because I’ll have all of them ....twice !

[Poobah in reply to Hazel1010]

Expect the best, prepare for the worst and take what comes! 😬

[Hazel1010 in reply to Poobah]

Just once could it be ...will make you loose weight overnight and you will never need to diet again .....please

[Poobah in reply to Hazel1010]

PLEASE!! 😁

[mylungshateme in reply to Hazel1010]

Now that sounds like a miracle drug 😂🤣😆 I'm In... 🤣😂

[Poobah]

Just heard a doctor explain on BBC1 that people with underlying health conditions and autoimmune diseases took part in the vaccine trials. The vaccine is deemed safe for all age groups etc. However, no pregnant volunteers took part in the trials.

[Lysistrata Administrator Community Ambassador]

It's under 16s who won't get it, not under 18s, based on the age of people in the trial.

This link may be helpful to anyone wanting to know more about how it will be distributed. theguardian.com/society/202...

[Lysistrata Administrator Community Ambassador]

I didn't disagree re pregnant women, just the specific age cut-off of 16 vs 18. Under 16s with or without an underlying condition won't be getting it at this point, based on their overall risk.

I can't seem to access the link you provided, but everything else I have seen says the Pfizer vaccine is licensed for 16+.

[EmmaF91 Community Ambassador]

The vaccine won’t be offered to pregnant women or those under 16. (This is because (like most drugs) it hasn’t been tested on pregnant women or too many under 16s.)

Your first post said under 18 which was what lysistrata corrected, I don’t think she mentioned anything to do with the pregnant people, unless that was the post that has since been deleted 🤷‍♀️

An easy imagery to see who will get it when is here; bbc.co.uk/news/health-55045639

CEV (so severe asthmatics/official shielders) are the 4th group, the 6th group are the group you mention ‘16-64 with underlying health conditions’ with the non-shielding asthmatics

[Lysistrata Administrator Community Ambassador]

You initially said above that under 18s wouldn't be getting it. I can see that the article you linked to does say this (I couldn't access it earlier but now can): Over-75s would come next, with shielding patients and over-70s after them, followed by over 65s, then at-risk adults aged 18-65 - including those with chronic respiratory, heart, liver or other conditions, patients with diabetes and those who are morbidly obese.'

However, I think that is now out of date, since other guidance, as you have said and which I was looking at, says that 16-64 year olds at risk will be getting it, not 18-65s at risk, as in this article. This is what the links Emma and I have provided say, and I was pointing this out since your initial post mentioned 18 year olds which seems not to be the case anymore.

I mentioned Pfizer purely because that's the first and currently the only vaccine licensed, and the licence is for 16 plus.

The guidance can be confusing, as it is subject to small changes. I read the original guidance document and they appeared to have mixed up clinically vulnerable and clinically extremely vulnerable (for all age groups), but the more recent guidance is clear on which group is in which priority level. I'm not trying to score points or call anyone out for being incorrect, just to provide the latest information.

[SteK78]

They have reported that people with underlying health conditions and autoimmune diseases took part in the various trials so it all sounds good from that point of view

From there the question that does need clarity on is when those who use a preventer inhaler will be eligible for the vaccine (and others that become available), and whether they're put in the same group as those who have severe asthma

[Lysistrata Administrator Community Ambassador in reply to SteK78]

Currently, severe asthma falls into the clinically extremely vulnerable (CEV) group and will be priority group 4, as per this link which Emma posted above. bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-5...

Asthmatics who do not meet criteria to be in this group (and are under 65) will be priority group 6 - all 16-64 year olds with an underlying condition that may make them more vulnerable. I am not sure of the current criteria for CEV in relation to asthma, but previously it hasn't included those who only need one preventer medication.

[SteK78 in reply to Lysistrata]

Yeah that's what I saw so it was pretty clear about those with severe asthma, just less so for others with more manageable asthma (probably a better way of describing it) – and I would assume that the underlying conditions description would apply to a lot of asthma sufferers who take daily medication for it, such as those who are eligible for a free flu jab.

Maybe now the vaccine is being rolled out there will be absolute clarity forthcoming soon as I know a few people, who have asthma or another condition, who are still unsure about where they fall into the roll out phases (or don't!)

[twinkly29 in reply to SteK78]

To me it's clear that severe asthma/all CEV are group 4 and underlying conditions are group 6 - anyone receiving a free flu jab (so therefore including anyone on a preventer inhaler and with "more manageable asthma" - I like that description!) would be classed as having an underlying condition or they wouldn't be getting the flu jab.

[mylungshateme in reply to twinkly29]

That's how I understand it from reading these posts. At the end of the day we will know when it's our turn as I'm sure we'll receive a letter like flu vaccine or like shielding letter. 🙂💪

[SteK78 in reply to twinkly29]

True and fair point at the end – I'd like to say I coined the more manageable asthma term but I would be telling a bit of a white lie!