I have read on here how many people find that magnesium reduces AF occurrences.
I decided to play fairly safe and get the spray oil as I have so many intolerances to various tablets. Also, I have had plantar fasciitis that has been going on since last November, not responding to anything. Thought it worth a try massaging with magnesium oil.
Thursday was the first time that I used the oil and I woke in the early hours of yesterday morning feeling that I was going to get AF. I made some tea and sat up for the rest of the night and all was fine.
I woke up at 2am today in AF and still got it.
Has anyone found that magnesium brings on an AF episode? I can’t think of any other cause.
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I have made my own magnesium oil spray. And the first time I applied it (4 spritzes to forearm), it made my heart race and become irregular almost immediately. So I diluted it in half but have not used it much since because I am still concerned about that. I do sometimes give myself a footsoak in magnesium chloride flakes (same thing you make the spray out of) and have never noticed it affect my heart. I probably use a weaker concentration for the footsoak.
Oral magnesium is contraindicated for me because of another condition but I can take Magnesium oil with no problems.
Most people find it extremely helpful for AF as most of us are Magnesium deficient and a deficiency can cause arrythmias.
Most of my episodes started at night and were related to Autonomic Disorders (vagal AF) and sleep apnea.
When we have AF we look for triggers, Lord knows I spent 10 years chasing them, but in reality if you have AF - you have AF!
The main causes of AF are lifestyle related, underlying conditions such as hypertension, diabetes etc, STRESS, sleep disorders and stretching of the heart when undertaking things like endurance atheletics or flying a fighter plane.
Magnesium is not going to help Plantar Fascia - fascia release massage may? Magnesium oil will help muscle release and stop spasms but fascia doesn’t respond to anything but trigger points and massage in my experience. I’ve never had Plantar Fascia but have had to have treatment for rigid fascia in my back and legs.
One of the best Pilates exercises for relief is to put a tennis ball underneath the sole of your foot and roll it under your foot whilst putting some pressure, as much as the pain will allow you to and it is painful but it does help release the fascia.
Thanks for your reply. Regarding the plantar faciitis, I started with the tennis ball roll last November, progressed to frozen bottle of water and then a spiky roller recommended by the physio.
I had 4 sessions of ultrasound, no change. Physio gave me various stretching exercises to do. Have purchased numerous different insoles and heel pads
I looked into shockwave therapy, but can’t have that due to being on Rivaroxaban.
Eventually I was referred to the muscular skeletal team. By the time I got my consultation, we were in lockdown, so it was telephone. The only option left to me is a steroid injection which cannot be done at the moment because it lowers immunity and these have been stopped nationally because of the virus.
It was desperation that made me try the magnesium oil, as I can’t go out walking and even if I do an hour in the garden, then it is agony to put my foot to the floor for the rest of the day. I can’t exercise at all.
Even before lockdown I had to stop playing table tennis and walking. Even walking round a supermarket and out to car park caused extreme pain.
As for the AF been going for nearly 7 hours now ☹️
Oh dear, sorry to hear that. I know PF is very painful & can take months to recover from.
Are you keeping an eye on your heart rate & BP? I know some episodes can last hours/days. Are you symptomatic ie:- breathless, fatigued etc? I found all I could do is go rest, practise slow deep breathing & keep really well hydrated and distract myself.
If you get chest pain or start to feel very unwell then do call for help, even if it is only to get checked out.
Yes I monitor heart rate and BP. I can’t stay upright for too long because BP drops too low. That is normal for me when in AF. I managed to make some tea twice during the night and brought my breakfast back to bed. Safest place while I am like this.
I do miss my lovely husband, he used to do all of this for me when in AF. I lost him 2 years ago, so I do find it difficult dealing with AF now.
I have always resisted ablation. What is the point if there is no guarantee of a fix and it is not a cure?
I have read all of the pros and cons on this site and spoken in depth with my cardiologist, even seen an EP, but I cannot be convinced.
I have had plantar fascitis several times over the last 30 years . It always lasted several months and then disappeared. The first time I got an xray and a tiny bone spur was revealed.
My plantar fasciitis lasted for Around a year and gradually wore off. One day I just realised It had gone. I kept a foot roller by the bed as I couldn’t get up and walk without rolling my foot out😐
I used to suffer from both PAF and Plantar Faciitis. I had shockwave therapy when on Apixaban with no problems, not even bruising. It was very effective, sorted out in about four 15 minute sessions. Carried out by Physio not Doctor and Apixaban was not thought an issue.
Thank you for you reply. That’s interesting. I was seeing a private physio at the time who said shock wave therapy could help but they didn’t have the equipment. I went to a podiatrist who was advertising this treatment. When she found out I was on Rivaroxaban she wouldn’t carry out the treatment.
I then did a self referral toNHS physios who have access to all of this. It was a telephone consultation in February. I was then referred to the muscular skeletal team who were going to do the steroid injection but by then they had been stopped due to Covid-19.
I have a telephone consultation this week, I will push for the shock wave therapy.
I had a planter facia I tried everything insoles tennis balls ,nothing worked, and a friend told me about orthotics. It’s a moulded insole it was expensive but if it worked I didn’t care. After using it for over a week my plantar facia went.I got it from the shiropady shop in Chester it is not mispelt that what it is called
The podiatrist did some customised insoles for me and charged a fortune. However, they made the pain far worse. I went back and she slightly altered the height on one but not the other which meant that I was slightly unbalanced, resulting in pain in the other knee.
I have had plantar fasciitis in both feet, one at a time. I would try various things to relieve the pain. Ice bottle, hot wheat bag. The calves can be tight if you walk a lot and exercise, massaging the calves can help release tension and pull on the Achilles’ tendon, which in turn pulls on the fascia. It takes a LONG recuperation can be 2 year in some cases. I’m a Reflexologist, work on the feet and calves. I’d had my foot taped up, not for long as I’m allergic to the plaster tape!!
Couldn’t agree with you more CDreamer, both about the Magnesium and using muscle trigger points to release the plantar fasciitis. You need a good experienced physio to work on your foot.
Mag oil shouldn't give you problems , as others have indicated.
My sympathies with Plantar fasciitis. I had a bout 7 years ago ...extremely painful and it took 12 months before it disappeared. I did the rolling exercises on my foot but really it was just a matter of time.
I got fitted up with some expensive trainers from a sports shop which helped and changed to wearing Hotter shoes from then on. I always wear proper shoes in house....no more ballet flats as I used to !
Hope you get some relief soon
( I had my 3rd ablation in the middle of all this...)
Just an update. Flipped back to NSR around 1pm so a 13 hour session. Only just got up and feeling totally drained now, so a lazy afternoon and evening for me.
Thanks for your responses. It helps to know I am not alone.
Val
My PF was a warning of a deteriorating hip - needed replacement, in time.
Yes I think that it is sometimes an indicator of stuff going on elsewhere, knee, hip or spine or neck as when we do have misalignment we compensate without realising it and the feet are literally the bottom of the line.
I've used the Magnesium oil spray for 6 years and haven't connected it as an AF trigger. Two points though 1) my hi profile London Naturopath prescribed CoQ10 with the magnesium as one relaxes the other strengthens the heart muscle 2) I used to spray am & before bed, the latter helped make me sleepy but I found I was waking up too early so I have stopped using it at night and now do a double spray early afternoon.
Can't speak to the magnesium, but I was diagnosed with plantar fasciitis some 12-15 years ago. Podiatrist prescribed arch supports and stretching exercises. Took six months initially, but pain fully resolved. I moved from the expensive arch supports the Dr. recommended to a generic type I found on line. Wear them most of the time. Resume my stretching exercises whenever I feel like pain might be returning. All good.
I saw a Podiatrist and he made my feet imprints in something akin to styrofoam. Sent them off and now I have lifetime orthotics to put into my shoes. Sealed the deal no more Plantar Fasciitis pain. This is my second pair actually. They are 3/4 of the sole to place into shoes. Sounds like you may have pronation when you stand and walk. The orthotics turns your heal outward. I truly believe these will rid you of this debilitating disorder. Changed my life, no pain whatsoever. Good luck. 🤞🦶
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