A question to all friends who have had a successful ablation:
I had a successful ablation a year and a half ago. I have days or even long periods where my pulse rate runs at 85. I am a 63 year old 120 pound woman. Can you all tell me what your pulse rate runs on average?
Thank you!! 
Your pulse is within a normal range which is 60-100 for healthy adults. Some have lower pulses either because of medications, fitness level or genetics. My resting pulse right now is 77, but it's usually in the 60s. I am not concerned.
If you noticed elevated since your ablation, that can happen and it's nothing to be concerned about. In fact, an elevated pulse post ablation is associated with ablation success.
Jim
Thank you Jim, It had settled down after 6-8 months post ablation to what is normal for me which is 60's at rest and 70's when I'm up and about. So when I had started to see it maintain in the 80's I was curious.. Not that I have a compulsion to check my pulse but I do periodically especially when I feel unreasonably tired. Ty for your response!
Well that's good news that it did finally settle down after the ablation.
As to why it's up again. again probably nothing to be concerned about, but also nothing wrong about keeping track of it.
Like I mentioned my pulse is also up a bit lately and while I'm not overly concerned, it may have to do with some other recent health and medication changes. A higher resting pulse can sometimes suggest deconditioning in many cases. And for that reason, many people keep a log of their resting pulse as soon as they wake up.
Jim
As we explain in our fact sheet on recovery, raised pulse post ablation is very common, typically in the 80 to 90 range which is still well within normal limits.
Sozo..my pulse rate was in the 60s before my ablation...averaging in the 80s a year later....but now is in low 70s most of the time. My consultant was not concerned. No one ever told me why!
Mine (as measured on my Apple Watch) varies from about 50bpm to 120 (during exercise). When I was taking 2.5mg bisoprolol (a beta blocker drug), it dropped on occasions to 35-40 in the evenings and overnight. I'm currently taking 1.25mg bisoprolol because of this, without which, I think it would be more like 60bpm (i.e. still on the slow side of normal and called "bradycardia").
A persistent rate over 100bpm is usually treated with a beta blocker, and is deemed to be tachycardia.
Steve
Bisoprolol reduce ROS which is the product of exercise or burning atp … methylation burns oxygen..the trick is to use
natural sources to clear ROS known as antioxidants .. the king of antioxidants are astaxanthin… but any of the colourful fruits and vegetables do the same ….
The mode of action of bisoprolol is complex and in part, still unknown, so far as I can find . Beta-blockers seem to reduce oxidative stress on the heart which seems a Very Good Thing. I do eat lots of fruit and vegetables so, fingers crossed, they are also good for my heart (although, given my worsening arrhythmia problems... maybe not that good!).
Steve
I hope you can address the root cause…
The problem for most .. is knowing what is causing the remodelling over time.. .. too much calcium?too much sodium?… as we age we build up more deposits of defunct mitochondria too.. old mitochondria are like a overused rechargeable battery .. they charge up and empty so much sooner..so it’s paramount if you cannot exercise to use foods that make urolithin A… which causes mitophagy..this allows new mitochondria to form once the old ones are eaten up… and the best food by far is pomengranate juice or extract…like most god given foods the shape and patterns of fruit and vegetables resemble part of the body..they seem to help.. walnuts -brain.. pomegranate .. red blood cells.. etc etc..well it kinda helps me understand things I find hard to comprehend..
Arrhythmias are often calcium driven and the contender in the opposite corner is magnesium… but like I said before people on PPI’s lower magnesium uptake due to low acid during digestive process… hence the importance of supplementing.
That all very interesting. Thank you.
But PPIs only affect magnesium absorption in a very few, but when they do, the only way to absorb ingested magnesium is to stop the PPI. For many that would be a mightily tough call so it’s lucky it’s a reasonably unusual side effect. Taking supplements does nothing when PPIs block uptake, sadly. I hope alternative drugs are in development, myself. Unfortunately acid swimming about in the oesophagus is A Very Bad Thing.
Steve
Yes I agree acid in the oesophageal is bad .. but the reason this is happening is not excess acid.. it is an overly relaxed LES.. which is often due to low melatonin..
Melatonin is released by the gut as the circadian clock realises it’s getting dark..unless you are still watching tv or using a device emitting blue light..this is by design.. the body should close the Les .. thus prevent acid from leaking upwards..
Eat foods high in melatonin .. walnuts .. spinach..with a yoghurt to counter oxalates.. and the Les begins to retrain normal strength closure…a quick fix that retrains the sphincter is a half teaspoon of calcium citrate.. in a little water immediately after food.. the Les will close .
Any substance with citrate will help retrain the Les.
Gum mastic too …
As we age we produce less melatonin from food.. also if we take PPI’s.
Problem with reflux is pepsin… if this gets
into the upper digestive or nasal areas .. it lodges into tissue for up to two weeks.. any acidic food swallowed will react to the pepsin and cause burning with in minutes..cured by a weak solution of bicarb soda… this is the cause of a lump in the throat upon rising.. backflush of pepsin… I found massaging the pyloric valve helps empty the stomach and prevents reflux that occurs 30 mins or so after food.
Magnesium can be absorbed through the skin .. soak a flannel in magnesium water and place over the heart .. notice how quickly the rhythm settles and slows down.. leg twitch’s again place the flannel anywhere you feel cramping or twitching muscles….. it is remarkable … hope these ideas can be helpful to anyone reading.
Thanks for taking the time to give that useful sounding advice. I shall try the melatonin. I am quite sure there is no such thing as "excess acid" only "excess acid in the oesophagus", and, yes, that is caused by a lax sphincter. The use of melatonin to assist this is new to me and I can see has some scientific support albeit not definitive and often when combined with a PPI.
Do you know if melatonin considered completely safe? It seems not to be generally available from pharmacies, or prescribable, in the UK.
Steve
Do not use synthetic form…try to obtain a plant based product…yes plants absorb from the sun too…spinach has traces.. but you need 1-3mg per day… and if you still experience reflux up to a max of 10 mg… then taper. Ack to 3 mg.. It is good for rest and repair… pubmed will have many papers on this.
Herbatonin 0.3mg | Safe, Natural, Longterm Sleep Aid – Symphony Natural Health
Use google .. links on healthunlockedxare being disabled.
Continue using ppi for at least a month…
You can make extra melatonin if you stare at the blue sky .. not the sun!
Eating 4 walnuts a day will do it…
Retrain the Les by using a very weak solution of ACV before you eat your main meal.. the rise in acid should make the sphincter shut and the more you do this the muscle begins to get stronger ..it takes a couple of weeks to notice improvement.
Hi
Mine is 60s Day and 47bpm avg at night.
I was diagnosed with rapid and persistent AF H/Rate was ? Metroprolol 186 & pauses at Night changed to Bisoprolol 156Day 47bpm Night no pauses.
What gives the top score Diltiazem 120mg AM.
A CCB Calcium Channel Blocker. The best for me.
Now I take 2.5mg Bisoprolol PM for BP control.
Athletes and I used to be one run at a lower pulse rate.
cherio JOY. 75. (NZ)
Ty Joy!!
Now, 10 years following ablations and with some other interventions - 65-75 day to day rising to 90-150 on exertion but I try to limit to 120 when exercising. I have a pacemaker which is set to kick in at 60 as my HR dipped at night making me symptomatic.
I stopped getting hung up on numbers as I realised that we are all very different. A grandson (was elite athlete) runs at 40-45 and is perfectly well. What is most important is that you feel well so if you are asymptomatic then I would not worry about that HR if I were in NSR.
PS - not taking any drugs.
Oh yes athletes pulse do tend to run very low but my concern was my normal before ablation vs post ablation vs much later, a year and a half post ablation. Ty CDreamer for your reply!!
Athletes exercise a lot.. this makes new mitochondria..improves mitochondrial function which increase efficiency of atp so lower heart rate at rest.
post ablation mine is fairly steady in the 60's 50 nighttime but if I have a tachy spell its 100 plus but usually goes back down after a few weeks. Can you take some magnesium blend, which might help. I take fullnesium from amazon. And i think it helps
Magnesium Taurate is the best form for heart muscle because taurine is mainly found in the heart…
Please consider your mitochondria…
Why?… because each heart cell has 5000-8000 of them and ATP (energy output ) causes change in pulse rate… higher pulse rates indicate poor energy transfer it’s often over looked by people who go post ablation….
Mitochondria are bacteria that used to live in the sea and recognise algae in food with faster uptake.. result clearer thinking .. more energy .. better sleep etc…improved ROS
Read about mitoflashes and the best antioxidant that clear ROS and feed mitochondria are green or red algae… Spirulina /Chlorella (green) Astaxanthin (red) both are natural sources of magnesium.
Your heart rate should normalise once you improve poor mitochondrial function…your brain will thank you too…
Link to mitoflashes…
elifesciences.org/articles/...
Link to a pure form of astaxanthin… search Astapure Amazon.
I apologise for my simplistic answer… I want you to be as well as you can .. all of you.. but it requires a multifaceted approach .. not just a pharmaceutical one… be well .. be happy.
Thank you JOmicO for all the info!! I do not take any meds but along with natural forms of health aids I do take astaxanthin but will check out the brand you suggest as well as the link and info you gave me. Once again thank you so much!!!
asleep in the 60s
Most of day 70s and 80s
Ablation around 6 months ago
Good luck
My heart rate increased to about 85 from about 72. . Apparently, it’s a good sign, The higher the heart rate, the lower the chance of AFib recurrence. In patients that had an increase of 15 beats after ablation, their risk of AFib occurrence was less than half that of patients who had a heart rate decrease, so I’ve just read. Hope they’re right.🤞🤞
Wow great to know!! Thank you Sixtychick!!
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