Something is bugging me and I’m having a BobD reaction 😬 It may be the fault of auto correct although it should be corrected the other way. Almost everybody refers to a (my iPad won’t do bold on this site) CRYOablation as a CYROablation. The ‘Cryo’ refers to the freezing method of the ablation. There is no such thing as a ‘cyroablation’. I know it’s being fussy but it’s driving me mad ☺️
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I get a bit miffed with misspelt thingys!! The worst is ALL my d-in-laws family, including her, will spell can't "carnt!"
I hadn't noticed that. The term is cryoablation or a cryo balloon ablation. If anyone referred to it as cyroblation, including myself, I assume it's a typo. The exception might be, if they were referring to the story of CYRNOno de Bergerac, however, while my nose sometimes gets frozen in the winter, never heard of a nose being actually ablated. 
Jim
I believe he was called Cyrano do Bergerac but will stand corrected if I have that wrong.
I've had the inside of my nose laser ablated many times to lessen nose bleeds. They ablate many different area actually 😁
had not thought of that. It must be dreadful to have such bad nose bleeds that you need it
Hee hee, I stand corrected!!
BobDVolunteer
If you want to be really pedantic call it a cryo-ablation or better still cryo ablation . Your don't after all have an RFablation you have an RF ablation.
I blame smart phones and texting for your other problem I keep seeing people say "I can't be arsed" when they mean "can't be asked."
I’ve never noticed that one, but probably just read it as cryo. Though I am usually a bit fussy about spelling, so if I had noticed it then I would be seeing it all the time.
I did enjoy yesterday’s posts about the ‘mini-maize’ operation though, and considered whether baby sweetcorn could maybe get me out of this persistent AFib….
I do think that a lot of the time, the dreaded ‘auto-mistake’ on our devices could be responsible.
😂
Baby sweetcorn? Oh I missed that one 😂
So did I.
Amaizing!
My favourites are the different attempts at spelling ‘paroxysmal’ - I hope I spelled that right, anyway my iPad says I did 😀
😂
Wisdom has been chasing us but some of us have been faster.
Hi Buffafly.
Hahahaha. I love it 'having a BobD reaction'. Such reactions are best-avoided methinks (sorry Bob).
As for spelling. I put my hands up to this one as my spelling is a weak point for me. Quite how I walked out with a Hons Degree in Law with my bad spelling evades me. I always used to spell 'you're' as 'your' which is a very bad mistake to make.
On IQ tests my score is normally quite high but I always fall short on the spelling part. Put a math problem in front of me and I'll solve it in seconds - ask me to spell a simple word and I struggle to do so.
I always proofread my posts now for spelling mistakes but am aware I still make basic errors. I will say though that it's the meaning of the post that is important. If the post talks 'down' a newbie from their concerns then the job is completed (spelling mistakes or not).
Now - I hope your BobD moment passes soon heheh. Have a lovely week ahead and catch up soon.
Cheers Paul
I usually don’t care about mistakes at all, I think it’s only because it is a commonly used technical term that I noticed it and then again and again and……
My problems is a dyslexic "comupter" keyboard. All the right letters but not necessarily in the right order.
Sounds as if you are dyslexic. Very often dyslexics find maths easy but have great difficulty spelling and are slow to read. I have a dyslexic but exceedingly bright son. I pulled him out of school when he was 8 when I was told he was the slowest and thickest and laziest boy in the school and his form mistress told me ‘not to worry she would beat it out of him.’ That was when I had him privately tutored for a term by a fantastic lady who understood how he worked. We put him back into the year above and he came top of his year until he left school at the age of 13. His brain worked differently and I was taught by that lady what to do with him and how to get the pathways in the brain working. I could wax lyrical on that subject for hours.
Horrifying but a wonderful ending. One of my daughters has a ‘differently wired’ brain. She did well at school through sheer effort but to this day has unreliable spelling and can’t read aloud accurately, however she can scan a page of text and understand it very quickly. She was eventually tested for dyslexia at uni and thought she didn’t score highly for that her brain is very ‘one sided’ in some ways. If shown a page of complicated patterns with one different she can pick out the odd one out instantly.
Exactly what happened to my daughter; one of her flat-mates at uni picked up that she had difficulty with a game they were playing and asked if she was dyslexic. She went for an initial assessment and was told she could go for a further comprehensive test. When she had this, they told her there and then there was no doubt she was dyslexic. A whole support system was put in place for her, but the failure to diagnose in her school A-level years meant she missed her university of choice as one grade wasn't quite high enough. Had it been known at the time, special measures would have been put in place at exams.
Hi
That's terrible because my adopted son was referred and checked for dyslexia. He wasn't diagnosed with it.
As an Adult in 40s he has been diagnosed with ADHD. It was NOT a diagnosis in 70s-80s.
He was labelled lazy. I got fed up as he would not carry out simple tasks like "please pick up your clothes".
At school he was a good talker but as to his writing um not there.
Now he is on medication, he runs his own restaurant but he gets flustated, and any comments he feels are criticisms.
They were not.
I've learnt to be careful what I say. I can see it is not a relevant response.
Yes, a dyslexic writer or a responding dyslexic person has his/her own set of
understanding and putting pen to paper.
There is a pen for dyslexix folks which reads the context. Very interesting.
cheri JOY. 74. (NZ)
Teachers only notice the children who really aren’t coping at all and refer them for help early on. Those who manage but don’t do as well as they could are left to struggle and sometimes their difficulties only become apparent much later on.
My son was diagnosed with dyspraxia which combines dyslexia with problems with small motor control and ADD. It's not funny tying shoelaces for a 20 year old. With spelling though; he can speed read 10 books a day and always recognises when a word is spelled wrongly but can't spell it correctly. Reading/spelling difficulties are still often cruelly treated as stupidity. Just once, in a queue for a theme park did I have the man in front of me ask me to read the signs for him because he couldn't read at all and wanted to be sure he was in the correct queue. To admit that to a stranger must have taken guts. I congratulated him.
Two of my children were very similar. Their reading and spelling were fine, but hand-writing was really difficult for them. They had to use computers in exams, and did well, but the early school years were difficult as children seemed to go into groups depending on their colouring-in skills.
Then I was part of some sixties experiment that didn’t actually teach grammar, we just sort of picked it up along the way. So, I can tell if it’s not correct, but don’t know any of the proper names for different tenses etc.
Though some spelling errors simply come from autocorrect, or perhaps from using phrases that really come from the way people used to live. For instance, I often see people use ‘reign in’ for ‘rein in’. It’s sort of the opposite, but then ‘reining in’ a horse isn’t exactly an everyday occurrence these days!
So, I’m sort of torn, as really these things don’t matter as long as people understand what you’re trying to say. Though we perhaps lose some richness in all these expressions when the original meaning is left behind. The other one like that is ‘tow the line’ used instead of ‘toe the line’ - for me, the meaning is lost.
I started teaching in the late 60s so I remember that no grammar well. A big mistake; then they started teaching ITA ( The Initial teaching alphabet where everything was spelled phonetically but then they had to un-learn it later. A stupid idea. One of my son's schools taught i talic hand writing so he never did learn to join up letters. The spelling that gets me is site and sight. We seem to have a lot of odd web 'sights'. I don't think people understand the origin of words now. Mind you I'm of a generation that was taught Latin.
When I learned to read phonetics were ‘in’. I made no progress at all until someone suggested that ‘look and say’ might suit me better. Within a year I could read anything you put in front of me. It’s not ‘one size fits all’.
I was lucky to miss the phonetics and italic writing. Missed out on Latin, as I did German instead, though I do notice words that are derived from Latin. I always hated learning languages at school, as I was better at maths and science. Used to worry that I could be swearing inadvertently. The funny thing is that I love using DuoLingo these days, and spotting the similarities between different languages is so interesting. I’m not sure how much I am really learning, but hopefully it’s good for the ageing brain 😂
I've been learning NOrwegian on Duo for two years. If I hadn't had a very good grounding in German and FRanch I think I'd have struggled, especially now there are no grammar tips. Luckily I love ;languages and speak 2 fluently and another 3 enough to get by.
such a shame. Very often dyslexics and people with ADHD etcare extremely bright in certain subjects.
It can be that diet could help. No artificial sugar, colourings, or preservatives.
She is extremely bright. It was a constant source of amazement to us that such an articulate child couldn't translate the spoken word onto paper which is why we urged her to go ahead with the testing. When they asked her how she felt after hearing the diagnosis, she replied 'Huge relief'. She used to think she was going mad.
Hi GrannyE. You make an interesting point. I have never been tested for being dyslexic although I doubt it's that. I think it's more a result of being lazy at school and messing around to much instead of learning!
Regarding being slow with reading - I can 'speed read' as the saying goes. If I want to learn something new I can whip through a chapter of a book in 5 minutes and take out the critical bullet points very quickly ignoring the rest. I think my mind is more geared towards analytical analysis than anything else.
I guess we are all different and all have our own strengths and weaknesses.
Have a lovely day.
Paul
Hi
Come on Scrabble will help you creating words.
cheri JOY. 74. (NZ)
Or Wordle
Hi
Don't know that one! JOY
Hi
Thanx.
Looks BORING>
Not a game so not competitive. I enjoy playing with others.
cheri JOY
No you play against yourself and try to improve your daily score. There's a similar game on TV sometimes called Lingo where 3 couples compete against each other.
Way back when I pulled my son out of school for a term most people did not know about dyslexia and the other learning problems which more people know about today. I am convinced that my father, who was brilliant in a practical engineering sort of way, was dyslexic. Dad could tinker round with engines and design machinery. Dyslexics have a problem when blackboards are used for teaching. By the time they have found the place on the blackboard and then looked down to copy it they have lost the place and it is all far too difficult for them. It is entirely possible that your ‘messing around’ was you compensating for that. If you have been taught in a way that does not suit you and have not grasped the first building block then how can you build on it? Bright children then become bored and mess about.
Hi
When I experienced my new dyslexic manfriend there were lots of events in texting.
A meeting arranged for 7pm, was carried out at 7am. I was not there.
Maths calculation 10 years out.
And other events. He asked me to read him the menu. In the end
I read him the menu but in the end. "I'll have the same".
I told him about a pen that has been invented by a Dyslexic person which reads aloud the words that the pen slowly goes over.
cheri JOY. 74. (NZ).
These things shouldn't still be happening. My dyspraxic son went through 3 primary schools, only one of which recognised and understood his problems. He got into MENSA when he was 4 and in that one school was moved up a year. At his first school aged 4 he came home saying he had a new name "Mr know it all". I took him out immediately. At the second when he was late coming out I found a teacher had him pinned against the wall wagging her finger at him. She said to me, "Try as I might I cannot make him cry". A serious complaint was made and he was moved out of her class. As a teacher myself it horrified me, In Secondary school he had excellent support and a scribe for exams. He came out with 14 GCSEs and 5 A levels.
You can imagine what it was like 43 years ago! Often schools cannot cope with really bright children who become bored and switch off.
Well this was 30 years ago. The big problem was that he could never sit still; with dyspraxia your brain ceases to get messages from your bottom to say where it is so you have to constantly move to send new messages so he was treated like a disruptive child who could never finish his work- a child who was reading the newspaper at 3, whose hobby was learning new words like existentialism at 5. The library had a scheme where children read a book a week and wrote a short precis to prove it then they got a medal. He took out 10 books twice a week. Schools can't cope with that but we did eventually find one that understood. He's never forgotten that teacher though.
My experience was similar but teachers are not taught how to teach spelling or grammar
Hi Paul
I reckon the board game SCRABBLE will be good for you.
Lots of men can't spell.
They should have given you a Spelling homework . Also no guessing when you are reading. Learn to sound out each word that you get stuck on.
cheri 74. (NZ)
Ty Cheri. I am awful at Scrabble and don't show myself up by playing it. Put a chess board in front of me though and that's a different matter. I haven't played for a long time but was very hard to beat. I once played a game 'blinded folded' which meant I didn't look at the board but remembered all the moves in my mind. I lost the game but was very proud of myself for doing this.
Paul
There is nothing wrong with your spelling Paul, stop putting yourself down. We all have to stop at times when writing and think about how to spell a word.
Jean
Sounds like a type of dyslexia to me. As a general rule the more senses you employ whilst reading and learning things generally the better. I.e. with a child get them to follow the words with a finger, and mouth the words out loud quietly, That way they use their motor skills and their hearing and their mouths move. When learning punctuation when he was being read to he had to jump up for a full stop, turn round for a comma, sit down for an exclamation mark etc………Sequencing problems abound which is why following the words with a ruler under the line helps. I could go on………………
You got me thinking about this one GrannyE.
I tried this online test which seems pretty good to me.
I answered all the questions honestly and no 'red flags' came up. The conclusion was.........
This person is talented in these areas:
Strategic thinking.
That was about it. However, thanks for your input anyway - it's always best to get these matters addressed.
Have a lovely day.
Paul
So relieved to see this as I'd wondered too...There again, predictive text!
Calling Anticoagulants "blood thinners" even some medics refer to them in that way....grrrrrrrrrr. lol
I must admit I too call anticoagulants blood thinners. I think the general public understand the term ‘blood thinners’ more readily.
quite agree. The as long as you get the meaning across - that is the important thing.
As an ex special needs teacher I certainly don’t, it’s only this thing that bugs me. And I don’t write as carefully on a social site as I would in a formal setting. The lack of full stops is a hangover from texting where full stops are considered rude
Yes, I believe there is an etiquette to texting and the full stop at the end of a message is not done unless you want to indicate annoyance.
I text a lot and never knew full stops were regarded as rude. Everyone I text uses them.
I think it’s young people who have those rules. Older people carry on as usual! I believe some emojis need to used with care too as there is a whole set of ‘alternative’ meanings.
If we're all being petty, I'll be petty too. The words lose (looz) (as in something you've lost or misplaced) and loose (not tight) being misused. Me, I touch type and have a habit of putting a g on the end of Warfarin. That's one of many mistakes I have to correct.
I'm by no means perfect myself, so would never normally criticise anyone else. I cringe sometimes when I read back posts I've put on the forum and see the mistakes I've made. Does it matter - no, so long as readers understand the gist of what's being said.
Members here, I don't care how you present your questions, I don't give a jot how you write it, just give us enough information so that we know how to help.
Jean
Hahaha, I just wrote that one too, Jean, before I read your comment. The 'loose' incorrect spelling seems to be taking over!
Hi
It's helpful if using abbreviations except for AF or AFers expand to write it our fully. Then the person writing should see the 'wrong' in it.
So please abbreviators after the abbreviation please enlarge and do use the abbreviation after that.
cheri JOY. 74. (NZ)
It will keep Butterfly safe from stressing and me! Thanx.
I have also seen the word "quite"and "quiet" being mis-used too. Whoops is that a full stop I see hahaha.
Afraid you'll never correct people's spelling or typos. Some things drive me mad too. My biggest bugbear is " I should OF, Would OF , Could OF instead of HAVE. It's just lazy speech but many of the errors are simply because people can't pronounce the names correctly. Bisopralol seems to be one of the worst and is often bisoperol. I agree it's important to get it right as many drug names can be almost identical
Omg - me too! I think there's a whole generation of people growing up who don't even know that what they're saying is an abbreviation of 'would have' or 'could have' etc.
How about ‘if it was,,,,,,,,,’ instead of ‘if it were….’
Cryo- it is. There's a chef judge called John Torode on TV's "Masterchef" who always says "y-owe-gurt" and "T-yoo-meric. Drives me potty!
Steve
O dear, I think that’s how I say them 🫢 Now I’m muttering to myself, do I or don’t I?
Well, pronunciation can be a part of your regional dialect, so there's no true right and wrong for sure, but the standard pronunciation is, I would think, to use a short "o" in "yoghurt" and not to sound "turmeric" as if there were a "y" or "you" sound after the initial "t".
Steve
’Lack of periods’ 😳 Thought Convo changed a bit 🤣
Apologies to the moderators - ended up completely off subject but I had no idea how this little comment would take off!
I've enjoyed it Buff.
It has been a nice gentle off topic thread that has been a really informative and pleasant read I think.
It took all my willpower not to jump in on the recent afore mentioned post and point out the error to the poster who wrote ‘Mini maize’. I had to bite my lip, gird my loins and shut my eyes on that one!
I was trying to use a British English spelling of a similar sounding word to guide the pronunciation. It likely caused the confusion - sorry.
The guy pronounces the word "yoghurt" (ˈjɒɡət) with a long "o" phoneme, rather than the standard short "o" (ˈjəʊɡət); and he pronounces the word "turmeric" (ˈtəːm(ə)rɪk) as if it were spelled "tyumeric" (ˈtjuːm(ə)rɪk, as in the word "tumour").
Steve
My current bugbear is 'loose' instead of 'lose'. It's endemic - I even saw it on the BBC news website!
Sign or signage anyone? That is the question in our community at the moment.
They replacing pronouns he/she just confuses me and I never remember.
I really don’t understand people getting upset about grammatical errors, spelling mistakes, or obvious predictive text error but I do like clarity so my bug bear is lack of specific description and lack of detail. Some posts are so vague I really do not know what the question is or relates to, but I usually ask. Language is constantly fluid as are the definitions.
My father hated the word ‘fab’ which I used all the time in the 60’s but now I need re-educating in what my nieces, nephews and grandchildren are referring to. I wonder if you all know
Amirite - Am I correct
Bestie - Best Friend/Pal
Keks - trousers or pants
Boujee - Classy
Or G’wed - Go ahead
Hmm, bestie = best friend or favourite anything, take your keks off seems to ring a bell, is it shoes. Haven't a clue about the others.
Jean
50% Jean, well done. See what other answers we get and I’ll post the correct later in the day.
Sign and signage, at a guess I would say that sign is singular and signage plural As in, "We saw the sign outside the doctor's surgery," or "The signage off the main road was excellent and led us directly to the town". Just made that all up and probably wrong. Why not use the word signs and not signage. Where's member Steve Ppiman on this forum, he may know?
Jean
There I was volunteering as a room guide for the National Trust, when a mother and her teenage daughter came in. Somehow we got talking about kids at college and the young girl asked if I knew about furries - well no I didn't! So she explained its kids at school who want to identify as animals, they're allowed to wear rabbit ears etc to school. I was astounded and when I rang my daughter and asked if she'd heard about them. Well, yes she had and at my granddaughters college there was someone who identifies as a cat, goes in dressed as one. Teacher has to respect his wishes to be a cat.
Jean
My son went through a similar phase, school didn’t tolerate anything other than uniform, so I couldn’t get him to school. Which is worse? He grew out of it.
There is another connatation to Furries - which is LOT more adult so we won’t go there here!
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