Sibling had an aortic dissection type a and b April this year 6 months after 1st jab, requiring 6 hour open heart operation, thankfully survived!
6 months later parent has aortic dissection type b can’t operate as has COPD told to enjoy every day!!!!
Whilst parent number 1 is in st Thomas’s parent number 2 developed severe AF and is now coughing up clots!!
There is no one on this planet that can convince me these are not related to the jab! People need to stop putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5
I myself have had 2 vaccinations and feel like a ticking time bomb, I am now refusing any further jabs for any member of my family or my 13 year old!!
I may or may not be able to read people’s responses because who knows if I’m going to be around!!
I hope from the bottom of my heart I am wrong and this post if not to alarm people it is just stating the facts and after reading other posts I really think people should be honest about what’s happening !
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Louise I am convinced my 2nd jab caused a return of afib despite my cardiologist saying there was no connection. It lasted 8 days 24/7 then it went as it came and I'm totally in normal sinus rhythm again.
I agree there is a certain amount of people that react to the vaccine but we can't prove it
I just keep hearing the jab and heart issues, they can’t all be coincidence! I think that some people, maybe with underlying issues it causes problems, it’s very worrying, 3 people in my immediate family of 4, all heart problems I just can’t shake off the connection and my brother fit and healthy before 🤷♀️ I just think there is no smoke without fire, I hope you keep in good health, I certainly won’t be getting a booster as we now all need to get our hearts checked including my children
LouiseI to had a reaction to the jab, although not as serious as you described. I had the first jab on Feb11 and that night went into AF. I have been in persistent AF since. Hopefully an ablation will cure the problem
Mitcham I am the same .Jan 31st jab.Feb 1st Persistent AF and have it ever since.2nd jab & booster don't seem to have made it worse.But I am pretty sure COVID would have been worse.
Why are you sure COVID would have been worse? 98% of the infected have no, or only mild, symptoms, 1,5% for the hospital, 0,35% Intensive Care. At least, that was like this in the Netherlands before the vaccination. Wonder how it is in UK.
Agreed. I had Covid sometime in September I think. I had zero symptoms, but I had a second antibody test in September after first test in June with 218 score. My score the second time was 949. There is no way antibodies would increase over time so only explanation is I had Covid. I was shocked because of not having even one small symptom.
Heavens, I’m very sorry to hear that . Having had a successful Ablation last year , I’m wondering now about my 3rd booster jab , having read the info leaflet when I took belived for his yesterday . My previous 2 were AZ, but boosters are not ….. Just worried about anaphylactic reaction as I carry an EPI pen
So do I no problems at all. Pfizer safe unless any of the ingredients jane caused precious severe allergy. I have had anaphylactic shock in past - no problem with jab
Whilst I can see that some people, a very small minority, may suffer some clotting and cardiac issues I would point out that the cardiac issues I suffered because of catching COVID - even though double jabbed - were extremely worrying and having lasting affects. I am blowing up blood clots from my sinus passages all the time, some quite large so if that’s happening, I would imagine there are also other clots in other parts of my body. I am having a 2nd X-ray in a few weeks.
I think it is up to everyone to assess their risk, if they can because it’s a really difficult exercise and make up their own mind, your body, your choice.
I am booking my 3rd vaccine for next week, 30 days after COVID hit and really pleased all my family are vaccinated.
The problem is that this so called minority are people’s loved ones. I nearly lost 3 members of my family with in 6 months of each other. How many other people out there that are dismissing these as ‘coincidences’ I personally have done a lot of research over the past month and it is shocking what I have found out. All of these people should be reporting these via the yellow card system so people can actually get a true picture of what is going on. People are scared and confused and no one has a right to tell people what to do but people need to take responsibility and do some proper research, all I can say is I wish I had! I hope you stay healthy but coughing up blood clots rings alarm bells to me, I am hearing it more and more!
There is a reason why some people who get the vaccine get side effects from it that are similar to those that can be the sequelae of more severe cases of covid. After the roll out of the vaccinations some scientists did experiments on rodents using the purified spike protein of the virus - so not the whole virus that you catch with a covid infection just the part that our bodies are being induced to produce so that we may form antibodies . They found that it is in effect the spike protein that is causing much of the damage that covid causes particularly the hypercoagubility issues . Other scientists in Canada obtained from the Japanese health authorities Pfizer's own biodistribution studies. These are studies which show where the vaccine goes in the body once it is injected. The theory of the vaccine's mode of action is that it is injected into the deltoid muscle of the upper arm and that most of it stays in this area ( with some migration to nearby lymph nodes) while it does it's job of inducing the production of antibodies. But Pfizer's own studies show that this is just not the case and that within a few hours it has spread far more widely - to the liver, spleen, bone marrow and other organs including the reproductive ones. There are many scientists questioning whether it is really a good idea to get our bodies to produce this toxic spike protein. They just don't get any publicity in the main stream press. The constant mantra is " ah but it would be much worse to get covid" . But this is just not true for everybody . The young people in their teens and early twenties who are getting ( and some dying of) myocarditis have very little to fear from a covid infection . Their chances of dying are miniscule . The statistics for mortality rates from covid for various age tranches show that the chances of dying for anybody under 40 are very low indeed and even lower for people with no comorbities. There are no data whatsover on the possible long term effect of these vaccines. What is more the data on the clinical trials released by Pfizer in July show four times as many cardiac problems in the vaccine arm as in the placebo arm. Both Pfizer and Moderna have trashed their clinical trials by giving the vaccine to more than 90% of the participants in the placebo arm thus making it impossible to ferret out long term effects.
It is now clear that the current vaccines have very little effect on transmission of the delta variant of SARS Cov 2. The argument of getting vaccinated to protect other people falls down. A recent study has found that there is little protection even within the same household. So people have to decide whether or not to get vaccinated or boosted on the basis of getting a less serious case of covid and against this they have to weigh the possibility of getting serious complications from the vaccine. Those who are in favour of the vaccines argue that complications are very rare . Given the very large number of reports to the pharmacovigilance systems of north america and Europe ( more in the first six months of the covid vaccine roll out for them alone than for all other vaccines put together for many years) and the fact that studies have shown massive under reporting of all side effects of medical products to the systems , there are many who would argue that the complications of the covid vaccines are being played down so as not to jeopardise the goal of a jab in every arm.
Hi AuriculaireI, for one got a severe reaction to the first Pfizer jab, one of the worst attacks of AF I have had during the second night after the jab along with severe nausea and dizziness . Had bad headaches and painfull joints. My Dr wouldn’t give me an exemption cos as you mentioned, he said Covid would be worse🤔.
Within 10 minutes after the second jab I had pain and tightness in my chest with nausea and AF fluttering. Have not felt good since.
Definitely NOT having any booster🥴. All the best to all on this group.
You can boost your immune system in other ways . Umpteen studies have come out from countries all over the world showing that having a high level of vit D is protective not just for mitigating covid infections but also ( and here it beats the vaccines) for protecting you against catching the virus in the first place. And no downside at all. But no governments are making systematic efforts to encourage people to do anything to improve their immune health.
Oh my gosh that is very scary. What vaccine did they get do you know? And I am so sorry for your loss but I am like you, I don’t think it’s a coincidence!!!
You poor love , that’s all very nasty . We both caught something very unpleasant 4 weeks ago( irony shortly after visiting Cardiologist ) it’s was not COVID , but very hard to shake off & put me in A& E when peak flow when down alarmingly . Same sinus symptoms . Beloved had his Booster yesterday , mine a few weeks away , so trying to assess my risk . It’s all a balancing act but thought of Covid terrifies me
If you are double jabbed, how could you catch Covid!? This is not a vaccine! Put finally 2 and 2 together!
You can catch and transmit COVID after you have been double/triple vaccinated. At best any vaccine will have it’s limitations but 60-90% protection from serious illness is considered very efficacious. The annual flu vaccine is less than half that effective. What the vaccine does is that it has shown to limit serious, life threatening illness.
I’ll say no more as we are never going to agree on this subject.
Except that the 60- 90 % protection is relative . This is a statistical trick used by all drug companies to make their products sound better. If one goes back to the actual data released in the clinical trials and looks at the absolute benefit - which on an individual level is more relevant- the results are far less impressive.
All my children got whooping cough even though they had been vaccinated against it. The doctor said it would have been worse if they hadn't been. No vaccination is 100% proof.
Every now and than we meet something about the "invisible enemy" that doesn't make sense. I have tried to make a list about it and was surprised how many items there are in the list:
- Pandemic was declared after only 17 cases in China,
- The large cities like Beijing and Shanghay were not affected at all, while Italy and Spain, which are thousands of miles away, were heavily affected by the virus,
- The virus was never isolated to prove its existence,
- With the lock-downs and social distancing, it was practically made impossible that the herd immunity can be reached,
- Every death was assigned to Covid-19, even for the people who died in car accidents,
- Autopsies were banned from the start of the pandemic,
- Medications like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were withdrawn from the pharmacy shops and not used, despite very positive results in the treatment of the patients,
- WHO has said that the masks do not protect from the virus, but in all the countries the Gov demands wearing masks,
- Common flue has practically vanished from the scene - how?,
- Vaccines were ready in extremely short period of time (within 9 months),
- The state urges vaccination, but on the responsibility of the citizens,
- The vaccines do not protect from contracting the disease,
- The vaccines do not prevent vaccinated from spreading the disease,
- There are permanently new strains in the play, stronger and stronger, despite it is "normal" that, with the mutation, the strains get weaker and weaker,
- The exact data about negative side effects of the vaccines are almost impossible to find,
- There is insane pressure to vaccinate young people, with excellent natural immunity,
- In the Internet, every attempt to shed the light on the pandemic is banned and censored,
- Nobody and nowhere was heard to mention the price at which the vaccines were purchased,
There is a very long list not to mention the type of mrna vaccine it is and never been trialed on humans before, I was alarmed to actually discover what that meant and that information is available out there, that alone should make people think.The problem is the second people start questioning it you are labelled as an anti vaccer and told you are selfish and putting other people at risk. I think it’s easier just to go along with it as people are so frightened not too! I had 2 vaccines as I thought it was the right thing to do but have learnt the hard way, looking at both parents and my brother and thinking I could lose them all and why? The information is out there if you know where to look, I would never force me opinion on anyone but would urge people to do some research for themselves as there is never normally no smoke without fire! The points on your list are very valid and I think people know deep down that things don’t add up, but what do you do when the powers that be are greater than us ?? Unless everyone really questions what’s going on unfortunately we will be in the minority, people just need to stop, think and question what doesn’t make sense! As for vaccinating children??? That in its self is a huge red flag surely people are questioning that! Even in letters from schools it states that it is for mental health reasons and so children don’t miss any more time off of school?? Shocking!! They are willing to put jabs in our kids arms that are basically gene therapy, crazy crazy crazy
The other poster saying they are double jabbed but the blood clots are from covid🥴.. says who ? I’m sure their doctor told them that as doctors are unfortunately giving wildly wrong information out! I know MANY people who have caught covid without being vaxed and none have blood clotting issues .. however I have many family members all who have had very bad issues from the jab .. 3 heart attacks .. several blood clots … and now two pulmonary embolisms… and one has insanely high blood pressure now… none of them had diagnosed heart issues before. All are still alive but now have life long health issues.
CDreamer was vaccinated very early on in the roll out so if her blood clots were the result of the vaccination they would most likely have appeared long before she caught covid. There is a reason why this sort of thing can happen with both covid and the vaccination - see my reply to her above.
Well that’s all speculation… the mRNA technology they are injecting changes how our body’s processes work… and people have been having clotting issues months and months after the jabs…. I’m not saying her clotting issues were or were not from the jabs I’m just saying that it’s speculation and no one actually knows. But to say it’s not 100% for sure is ignorance on the dr’s end because this is totally new technology ( not a vaccine) and we have no idea! I just said I know many who have had covid and didn’t have any clotting or heart issues from just covid … and then I know many others who have had massive effects from the jab.
There is no doubt that both the vaccines and covid are causing clotting issues . The clotting issues caused by covid have been known for a while and anticoagulant treatments are being used. Autopsies done on people in Germany who have died unexpectedly shortly after vaccination have shown widespread clotting. Some doctors are finding raised d dimer levels in their patients after vaccination. This is an indicator of hypercoagubility and it would be a good idea to test for this systematically after vaccination so that those with raised levels can be treated and bad outcomes such as stroke and heart attacks prevented. I was vaccinated in August with the Janssen vaccine and I have noticed far greater tendency to bruise after blood draws. Just pulling a plaster off my arm has raised big blood blisters ( which was quite alarming as it's never happened before) and my latest bruise from a blood test has lasted an unprecedented 3 weeks. So far I have not noticed anything else but I am worried . They are now saying here that the Janssen vaccine is no good and I have already had a recall for a Pfizer booster. No way!
Places like China had few cases because they locked down very strictly, put people into supervised quarantine if they were contacts, and so stopped the disease spreading. Having eliminated it they were able to open up society within the country again. New Zealand locked down last year when it had only 100 cases - Jacinda Ardern said, we only have 100 cases but so did Italy once. As a result of their early lockdown they were able to suppress the disease to extremely low levels, open up fully within the country, while having strict border controls so it wouldn't be brought back into the country. This worked very well, testing, traciing and isolating contacts to stop onward spread of the disease, until they opened a corridor with Australia more recently, and someone imported the Delta variant, which spreads extremely quickly. It has been spreading so fast that they can't keep up with tracing and isolating contacts quickly enough any more, and they are having to change policy to live with a higher level of disease alongside rolling out the vaccine programme. However their Zero Covid policy led to extremely low levels of Covid deaths (only 28 people have died of Covid there) compared to the UK and most western countries, while they were able to make it work.
Thanks belindadore, I hadn't seen that news. I see they've locked down in a number of areas while there are very few cases, as once again they'll be hoping to crush the spread of infection before it becomes too widespread. mirror.co.uk/news/world-new...
China with its huge population has had no Covid deaths since March, and less than 5000 deaths in the whole pandemic. We've now had over 140,000 deaths, with a vastly smaller population.
Of course, like New Zealand, it remains to be seen how well China will be able to control the more infectious Delta variant.
OK. Let's take the example of COVID-passports. If the jabbed ones CAN contract the disease and CAN transmit it to others, WHY should they be privileged. Their influence on the society is THE SAME as of those ones without jab. "The fact" that they will have "better survival chances" has nothing to do with their being contagious... Passports are only the means of manipulation and pressure, that people get jabbed.
Actually the vaccinated are a greater danger as far as spreading the virus is concerned as for many it will mean asymptomatic infections. As a result of not feeling ill they do not go and get tested nor self isolate but with a false sense of security go to the places where vaccine passports are required and transmit their infections to those who have not been vaccinated either because they choose not to be or for medical reasons cannot be. The latter can have no safety . Here in France you get the passe sanitaire on proof of vaccination, a negative covid test in the last 72 hours or proof of recovery from a covid infection. This latter is only valid for 6 months whch is ridiculous as all the latest studies show that natural infection gives longer lasting and very much stronger protection than the vaccines do. So a person who got vaccinated at the beginning of February gets to continue with their passe sanitaire despite the waning protection of the vaccine whereas a person who got covid at the same time loses it! Well out of the three categories of person I know who I would least like to be sitting close to in a restaurant- the vaccinated .
In the USA there are ads on TV with nice people telling everyone to get a vaccine. But there are NO side effects mentioned at all. From my understanding any pharma med advertised is supposed to list any potential side effects. Why not for the vaccines? Something sinister. Plus big pharmas are making lots of money along with people like Fauci who have invested monetarily themselves in big pharma. Two Drs in Minnesota were fired for saying young children should not be vaccinated nor should there be mandates to try and force individuals to get the vaccines. Personal freedom is being taken away. I still keep asking and have yet to get a decent answer-If the vaccines are supposed to be so safe why is Congress in the USA exempt from the vaccines? You would think they would all be first in line to get a vaccine. ????
Same here - no passe sanitaire demanded for the Assembly or the Senate. Yet they passed the law so you can't get into a hospital for programmed care without one. Bloody hypocrites.
Yes. Under the way the USA government is formed the executive branch, the POTUS, cannot tell Congress, the legislative branch, what they can or cannot do as far as getting a vaccine or not. It's called separation of powers. So in a way, yes they are exempt.
So that includes any federal judges too. I can't find current info, but in May, 100% of Dems in the House we're vaccinated. I have a feeling most of them are vaccinated now. I hope all the Supremes are vaccinated.
There is no legal requirement for an advertiser to cite adverse reactions to a pharmaceutical product—but only if the advertiser is not the pharmaceutical company per se. So you see numerous ads here in the U.S. touting how “safe and effective” the jabs are. None of the ads are technically done by Big Pharma, just their government minions. At least, that is my understanding.
no liability censorship all red flags WAKE UP PEOPLE
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Not sure where you got your list from, but the very first point on it is factually untrue.
WHO declared that COVID-19 was a pandemic on 11th March 2020 by which time there had been over 118,000 cases in 114 countries, and 4,291 people had lost their lives.
Why post data that is not true, or that is exaggerated?
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In my country, the panic started very early, as I said. Take it from the list, it does not change the rest of it. Take it or leave it!
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I work in healthcare and have made my own assessment. I don't feel any need to spend my time taking your points one by one. Each person is free to decide as they wish.
Whoever dares to talk is "conspiracy theorist", whoever dares not to comply, is an" enemy" of those who do comply and of the Government. How, for Gods sake, can non vaccinated endanger those ones who are "protected" with the vaccine!? A person has to be in problems with thinking as to accept this. Nothing in this staged pandemic makes sense.
Here, in the forum, people are mostly elderly, so it is hard to talk to them. I am so glad that younger people in UK understand who the real enemy is and protest against pressures and mandatory jabs.
What a patronising and condescending comment about "the elderly" I find your aguements specious and silly but respect your right to state them, however respect goes both ways.
I shall now go and doze in front of daytime tv as that is obviously all I'm fit for,being over 60 .
That's just horrible. Whether it's actually having Covid or getting the shot, I do believe it affects the heart. I had Covid last December which brought on a long a-fib episode that started the whole circus of having more, resulting in an ablation in April. I've now had both shots and the booster -- thankfully with no associated heart problems. In your case and from your family's experience, I don't blame you a bit for staying away from it all.
I'm not going to comment on any possible link with the jab, but there is something very important you need to understand. Aortic disease definitely can run in families.
The fact that your sibling and parent have both had dissections means that you could well be at risk. Those two relatives should have genetic tests and if anything is found you should probably also be tested. Familial aortic disease can occur without any mutated gene.
Raise this with your GP and as some are not familiar with the genetic origins of dissections, you may need to make that aspect clear. An alternative is to talk to whoever dealt with yor family's dissections, as they should be aware of the genetic link. You should also be sent for a scan, preferably a CT scan, to check your aortic diameters, regardless of genetic tests.
Aortic dissection can also be difficult to diagnose, and I always advise people with any sort of risk to wear a med alert bracelet, to give any A&E a clear warning.
There is plenty of information on the internet, you could start with the BHF website, searching for aortic dissection.
An aortic dissection is not something that happens overnight - my husband has two aortic aneurysms and we know how long they took to grow because the first aneurysm he had was repaired 20 years ago. Our consultant said the new ones could rupture at any time so even if dissection was exacerbated by the jab it only accelerated an inevitable result. Your relatives were not fit and healthy before dissection, they had severe circulatory and lung disease. If I were you I would book a scan of your aorta ASAP. I have had a scan because my grandmother died of a burst aneurysm and the condition is, unfortunately, hereditary.
The data is out there. What little we are allowed to see. And yes the vaccines are causing health problems. Why do you think your yellow card system and Vaers here in the USA were set up???
Jab = heart issues, absolutely beyond doubt.Family member perfectly healthy in he early 40’s … second jab and then pericarditis and now on permanent meds.
I am afib sufferer - paroxysmal.
Great control and no issues then first jab March 3rd this year - straight into bradycardia and ambulance… nothing but hassle since. I have had covid over the last 10 days and had one bout of afib with initial temperature.
I am absolutely convinced that the vaccine causes inflammation of the heart & this was apparent when the British medical board had reservations about children with the vaccine and risk of myocarditis.
My honest advice - stop chasing rainbows with boosters & more boosters …. Eat well take vitamin D and lose weight if you are carrying too much. I’m like a racing snake & active - this and a good vitamin intake got me through. I’m not an anti vaxxer- just an engineering manager that looks at the facts and not the spin … you make up your own opinion
I was all for the vaccine, and I did receive my first dose,(Moderna) I did ok, my entire family was vaccinated with different vaccines and they did ok, but I know too many people who are having side effects. One lady I know collapsed about six hours after receiving her first dosage , her blood pressure bottomed out. A friend of mine is a nurse in the ER, and she says lots of people are coming in with cardiac issues after getting these vaccines. I’m skipping my 2 shot. I still mask up, and social distance, but I am getting a little concerned
Guess what? people with heart conditions get ill! I've had 2 open heart procedures, 2 stents and a pacemaker fitted in last 5 years. There is no way that I consider myself fully fit. I live within some limitations and am constantly controlling symptoms of hear failure. That is done with medications and regular, gentle exercise.
I also maintain that health with the help and protection provided by any vaccines available. Get real! Covid/flu/whatever would wreak far worse damage than any vaccine's side effect.
Blood clots - I take blood thinners already so have that risk now. Myocarditis - I already have it. What I do NOT want to have is covid, nor the flu.
Please get real. The protection afforded by vaccines far far outweighs any side effects.
People with heart conditions get ill, we just don't want to get worse by not taking the defences available to us.
Please bear that in mind. Everyone has a free choice but maybe tell us how you feel AFTER having covid.
As above, neither of these happens overnight, they develop over a long long time, though equally they can be developing and can not know about them. It is possible vaccine tipped the balance in terms of when these would happen, but I very much doubt it's the only cause.
i hate to say it but ive been waiting and watching to hear of multiple side effects from vaccines as mounting evidence is starting to appear which is not been reported by the mainstream media and no doctor can tell wether or not you will have side effects because they simply cant know anyones response your ticking timebomb analogy i sincerely hope you are wrong but its beginning to look that way if my mechanic told me that he wouldnt stand over his work i wouldnt let him near my car much less let someone jab me with who knows what its time people used common sense i hope all works out well for you and im not anti anything just using common sense ive seen some people healthy close to me suddenly develope issues
Of course there are problems with these half-way effective Covid vaccines. I say 1/2 effective, because one can still get Covid after being double or triple vaxxed, even though in most cases the illness will be milder, but one can still die as well as transmit the virus.
These vaccines were barely tested on human beings until the present greatest ever ongoing world-wide jab experiment. There is good reason that it takes 8-15 years to make a safe, effective vaccine, because time has to pass to see if there are any late or long-lasting effects and that holds true today more than ever with these mRNA vaccines which have never been used and thus tested on humans before.
For example, it took 23 years to make a safe, effective polio vaccine. In the process, there were many vaccine-related injuries and deaths, which is what is happening today in a far greater number than is admitted by government agencies and their media propagandists online and off.
I personally wouldn't go anywhere near these vaccines, even though the rest of my family has been double-jabbed with so far no problems.
However, I know two people who passed away very surprisingly and suspiciously months after their second jab from heart attacks even though they had no history of heart problems, weren't overweight, ate sensibly and were active in a normal way, iow, they weren't extreme athletes nor were they sedentary/couch potatoes.
But it is everyone's individual and completely personal decision whether they want to take part in the current worldwide jab experiment, or not.
People don't want to admit that the vaccines are experimental. People who have had no problems taking the vaccines don't want to hear that other people do have problems with these vaccines. And that is sad.
I can understand their denial. I don't mention such things to people who have been vaxxed because I don't want to put any seeds of fear or anxiety in them.
Eventually they will hear it from those same sources who told them it was 100% safe and effective when the truth cannot be denied any longer.
Then they will learn the hard lesson of blindly accepting information from anyone without thinking it through on one's own.
If you were fully aware, because you informed yourself, that these are untested vaccines, rolled out in 6 months, which has resulted in a much higher percentage of adverse effects as well as fatalities, than has ever been allowed for a vaccine before, and you still went ahead knowing the risks full well, then that is your decision and your decision alone. Fact is, most have no trouble with these vaccines other than a sore arm or 24 hour flu symptoms. What the future brings regarding late effects remains to be seen.
There is a critical number of shots for everyone. Some people had one shot and went away. Somebody needed 2 shots, somebody is OK even after the booster, but the vaccination goes on. They will not stop and the healthiest ones may need 6-7 doses to get into trouble. Dr Richard Fleming, from USA, said the the results of "vaccination" will be fully visible in the Summer 2022.
I have been vaccinated and I regret it. So far I do not seem to have any repercussions but I have to say I am far more worried about the prospect of future problems than I am about catching covid.
I too believe that covid, whether the disease or the vaccine, affects the heart. I don't believe that the effect of the vaccine lasts more than a week. There's no such thing as "long covid vaccine PAF is mysterious. When I get afib, I always try to figure out why, but at least half of my theories turn out to be wrong. I am respectful of science. I'd be dead without it. We have to recognize that there's a whole well-funded political party cherry picking science and broadcasting it everywhere to make people scared of the vaccine, especially people like us. Scary stuff happens out of the blue. We want explanations. I've had 3 jabs and felt ill for a few days, but no afib. The latest thing that really helped afib and sleep was giving up aspartame, but it wasn't a subtle guessing thing.
Just to preface, I had the J and J “vaccine”. I will not be getting a booster as my antibody numbers are 949.
The mRNA vaccines are not vaccines. They are gene therapy and were originally created to treat cancer patients. They did trials and scrapped the project because they did not work. So that is what people are getting jabbed with. A failed gene therapy project.
I'm glad you posted this. And I'm praying for you to be alright. I'm hoping you find out for sure what has been happening to your family. It has to be so scary for you.
As much as some people don't like to discuss these vaccines and this virus, it's important to do so. We don't have any idea what the vaccines will do to the human body in the long run. They are experimental. No one can tell us. Not even our Drs. We have to be allowed to voice our concerns and worries, and yes, fears, about these vaccines and this virus and everything that has been happening for the last almost 2 years. There is much evil in the world today and the last thing we need is to have our voices, our rights and our freedoms taken away. Whether people want to see it or not, I do see that happening in the USA. And it's scary as heck. We may not agree with one another but we have the right to have our voices heard. As always take care and be safe.
Well said Belinda, but there is a difference between what you are saying and peddling disinformation and spreading fear to people who don’t have the education to understand statistics and science.I agree with some comments but I think the argument should be had elsewhere!
Finally, people are discussing this. No more jabs ! Please. Use your beautiful natural immune system and supplements ❤️
Very sad to see these comments. There are more and more forums I read where these anti-vax ideas are becoming normalized and ubiquitous. I volunteer one day a week to refurbish ex-corporate computers to provide them cheap to the unemployed and pensioners - the atmosphere has become so poisonous as a result of a couple of anti-vaxers who will not be satisfied with simply stating their position and moving on but feel it necessary to endlessly proselytize to the sheeple. Its all over the stock trading forums I read and the other day it got into an electronics group I follow. I agree completely with Buffafly above - have it your own way, but my interest in following this forum is approaching zero the longer this nonsense is allowed to run, and I am sure I'm not alone in that feeling. I'm just exhausted trying to reason with this nonsense - on top of Covid and the lockdowns its one straw too many.
People speaking the truth about what they have seen with their own eyes or what they have experienced with their own bodies and what they have seen happens to their loved ones or their families bodies does NOT make someone anti vax!! Calling someone anti vax is ridiculous and ignorant … anyone who doesn’t blindly cheer on these jabs is silenced! That honestly should scare you! I’m so over joyed to see people speaking up and sharing what has happened to them and people sharing the actual data on these jabs! The media certainly is not.. which is also terrifying!
hi palpman i havent taken part in the experiment and i havent thrown in the towel , it remains to be seen just what will destroy the human race , the mainstream media created so much fear that a mass physcosis took over society.
I have now had three Covid 19 jabs - the first two were pfizer and the third Moderna - no problems whatsoever so it may be that some people get problems because of a predisposition - the same as some members of the same family get cancer and their siblings who live similar lives - even smoking all their lives do not. Thankfully neither I nor any one in my family - all of whom who are eligible including 12 - 15 year olds have had one or two jabs now and will be getting their third. Obviously we are lucky. At the same time we should be wary of linking everything that happens to one other thing as there is a chance that these things could happen anyway - there is no way we could know this. For two years during my Cancer treatment it would have been easy to put everything down to that but it wasn't and I was lucky to listen to my wife and go to the GP with other problems which cropped up and had nothing to do with either the cancer or the treatment and could be treated - if not i may not be here today.
The COVID vaccines only became available in late 2020, and 79% of UK adults over aged 12 have had at least two doses.
As the majority of the adult population is now vaccinated, it would be expected that many people who have an aortic dissection will also have been vaccinated.
I have no direct experience of China's government so I'll have to take your word on that. I do however have direct experience of Scott Morrison's Australian government and I can tell you that they are no slouches in the secretive and and authoritarian stakes. I suspect one or two people on this forum have similar thoughts on Donald/Joe and Boris. So I agree with you, I certainly wouldn't trust anything that comes out of Scott's mouth - as attendees in Glasgow will shortly discover.
Dunning-Kruger effect in action. No one is immune to it. Some people notice it more than others and are able to counter act it.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”—Bertrand Russell.
That is terrible! For many, nothing bad happens. Here in the states, the ICUs have been filled with mostly nonvaccinated, but there have been a few break thru cases. Can you tell me which vac everyone got? Here is some info I found: Why are some unlucky with the vac? One research says contaminates, another possible factor affecting the safety of adenoviral vaccines is how they are administered.nature.com/articles/d41586-...
My covid booster jab sent me into afib that I can't get rid of this time & I suffered a lung clot. I know somebody else who had a brain seizure after 2nd jab , who is only 38 & my neighbour suffered a stroke (all within a week of having the jab). My Daughter is a dental nurse and she said that there are so many people that she knows who have ended up in hospital after having a covid jab.
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