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Yesterday it came back I think for the first time in two and half years since ablation...thudding heart, erratic, pulse in late nineties in the end I went to bed and thrn woke up today fine, guess I am half in denial saying nah it didn’t happen but I think it did......so my question here is my last AFIB yoinks ago the pulse was berserkly high, so does ablation temper the next attacks, or was I just getting ine with a lower pulse. I guess we all know it may come back so in hoping it will be a while and calm....isn’t it weird how instantly the rug gets pulled you start manically taking your pulse, I’m back doung that again I guess fir a while till I forget this happened.......also if it starts to come back and your in all the meds which I’ve been since the start of this should I get my dose upped or ignore it for now, I’m off on no,iday Monday so I’m trying to forget this happened.

Have a happy weekend,

Sue

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Morzine

God excuse my typos! It reads gobblygook ...I’m off on holiday!

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Cat04 in reply to Morzine

Try the edit button 🙂 it's my saviour!

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Jalia

Hi Sue, my opinion ( for what it's worth 😀), could it be an adrenaline rush in anticipation of your holiday that sparked the sudden but brief AF ?I would try to forget about it , bearing in mind to avoid any obvious triggers and enjoy your holiday ! Are you able to seek medical advice re upping your dose if necessary before you leave ?

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Rubymurray25 in reply to Jalia

I 100% agree, for me anxiety is my worst enemy, closely followed by stress.

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Morzine in reply to Jalia

Thanks, Jalia

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Auriculaire in reply to Morzine

Sorry to hear you have had a return but the lower heartrate is good news. It could well be the anticipation of the holiday. I find preparations for going away stressful - especially packing! I personally would not up my dose - it might be a one off and it would be better to wait till you can see your cardiologue. Try to forget it and enjoy your holiday. Are you going somewhere exciting?

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Buffafly

O dear, it’s a horrible feeling when IT comes back 😨 My episodes are more ‘tamed’ than they used to be although I’m only taking a small dose of diltiazem. I tried taking a top up of 60mg over my usual 120 which worked well at bringing the rate down so my GP suggested taking 180 permanently which has worked really well - the few episodes I’ve had have mostly been slow or mixed AF which is more bearable. So my impression is the AF has been tempered by the ablation. Hope you have no more for now and a lovely holiday ❣️

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Morzine in reply to Buffafly

Awe thanks, nice to hear they are less. I wondered with the pulse only 90 plus, that’s encouraing

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CDreamer

So sorry it returned and yes, when my AF returned 3 years after 2nd ablation I was far less symptomatic with lower HR.

Have a lovely holiday.

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Morzine in reply to CDreamer

Nice to hear that cd dreamer....off to provence in caravan!

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CDreamer in reply to Morzine

Relax & enjoy - love to visit Provence again sometime.

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Kaz747

Hi Sue

It's funny that we had our ablations at a similar time and we’ve both had a wobbly heart again at the same time. Hopefully it's a minor blip for both of us. Try to relax as enjoy your holiday.

Karen x

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Morzine in reply to Kaz747

Oh Karen, what a pair we are....let’s keep fingers crossedOff to provence.

Did you get to Greece in the end? I’d love another OZ trip but covid has put huge spinners in works eh

Sue

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Kaz747 in reply to Morzine

No - our government closed our international borders in March 2020 so we can't travel anywhere outside of the country. People can apply for special exemptions in mitigating circumstances but there are very few flights and anyone coming in from overseas must spend two weeks in mandatory hotel quarantine at their own expense. For Australians who can get back from Europe, it's generally A$10-15,000 per person for the airfare (one way) plus the quarantine cost. There are caps on the number of people who can land in the country each week.

Even our State border is closed to the other States where the Delta variant is bad and they are in lockdown. Until the country is vaccinated to at least 80-90% Australia will remain closed. It's hard to get in or out!

So, we're having a few local holidays and we're lucky to have a house on the water so we get to see the dolphins regularly.

Enjoy your holiday. x

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Dodie117

I had ablation in 2013 and recently have had the odd short episode. Also PVCs. I’m ignoring them for now as not really affecting my QOL and doc says will refer me if causing problems.

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Morzine in reply to Dodie117

Good to hear thanks dodie, I’m goung off away and trying to ignore this.....

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Singwell

What a bummer! I'd feel the same I'm sure. They do say it's not a cure so I suppose any of us who've had ablation can expect breakouts. The rate was lower and it went on its own so those are good signs. Best thing maybe - while not to dwell on it - look into the past few days or weeks of your life and ask yourself was anything out of balance? With me it's always stress/excitement with I sufficient comedown. Also, some body systems such as thyroid, liver, kidneys, sugar levels and digestion are influential on heart, cholesterol levels too. If it happens again 🤞 not!) I'd look into those for clues. Wishing you a peaceful Sunday and coming week

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Morzine in reply to Singwell

Funnily enough I’ve been on a diet these past two weeks wanting to loose a stone and I did wonder if it was my eating.....

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Auriculaire in reply to Morzine

You must be starving yourself if you want to lose a stone in 2 weeks!

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Shcldavies

I can only imagine how disappointed you are, this is in deed a terrible condition. There could well be a combination of triggers that have set it off and these triggers may not combine in such away again (or at least too often). From what I understand the condition is not as bad post ablation, certainly the few "runs" I have had were nothing like the pre ablation ones, not lasted near as long and have become very rare and only come if I eat too much sugar/too little sleep/over exert. Have a lovely holiday a spell or R&R will certainly help.

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Morzine in reply to Shcldavies

Thanks shcldavies good to hear they are less horrid.....yes tomoz I’m off to provence ....

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Janith in reply to Shcldavies

My events are less plus not as frequent and of very short duration since my cardio version … l wonder if the cardio version caused this? Have fun on vacation! Jan

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Brenda-j

I have recently had the same problem. I had an ablation nearly four years ago and have taken just 50g of Flecainide twice a day since for a slight flutter.I recently had to take steroids for a month for inflammatory arthritis and that has now triggered the af again. I’ve only had a few short episodes since but I take 100g to make sure it goes. Relax and enjoy your holiday.

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Morzine in reply to Brenda-j

Thanks Brenda.....in a way it’s so nice to hear I’m not the only one....Sue

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dedeottie

Mine came back with a higher heart rate than before and I feel much worse than I did. You may need a change of medication to something else rather than increasing the one you are on.

If you are not overly bothered by it I would go and enjoy your holiday and then ring your consultant for an appointment/ advice on what to do next. X

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Morzine in reply to dedeottie

Thank dedottie, am trying to forget it.....need to stop checking my pulse!!!Sue

Oh I share your fear, I’m just 4 weeks since ablation. Can you be sure it was A-Fib? I have a Kardia 6 L that tells me if I have A-Fib or not. Mostly I can tell … thumping extra/missed beats but half the times pre-ablation I didn’t realise I had it or thought I did but didn’t. Best £150 I ever spent.

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Morzine in reply to splashrollandplod

four weeks after ablation....you have a long stretch of bliss ahead, even forever eh.....I think this was AFIB cos it was so erratic , but yes I should have got the old Marcia out haven’t used it since pre ablation...Sue

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Ecki

Hi, I had my ablation 20 months ago. No AFib until about a month ago when I got up in the night for a wee and felt AFib start. It lasted 5 hours, hr varied between 95 and 140 (shown on my smartwatch), lots of weeing, every 10 to 15 mins. It returned to NSR after 5 hours. This was the start of an horrendous covid like infection, so I'm hoping it was just a one off triggered by the developing infection. Hope you enjoy your holiday, we're also off on holiday Monday.

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Morzine in reply to Ecki

Wee-ing yes! So annoying isn’t it.......phew I’m not feeling so bad now after reading everyone else’s report....sue

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Ppiman

I had exactly this, the night before last. I felt runs of what I thought were palpitations and then checked on my watch, which showed afib. My symptoms were pretty much nil, thankfully, (thanks, I guess to my pulse staying below 100, like yours, but it was all over the place). I took 5mg bisoprolol just in case, but eventually went off to sleep with it and have had nothing since.

Steve

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Morzine in reply to Ppiman

It’s a weird experience isn’t it....half of me said no this can’t be happening.....fingers crossed you and me dint get it for ages....sue

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Ppiman in reply to Morzine

Hi SueI sat last night thinking it was starting again, but, no - all was well. Yes - weird is the word. My friend is 88 and has had permanent afib for years on end and has no symptoms. It seems to be tachycardia that brings on the symptoms for some, at least - and, I suspect that brings fear and panic in its reign. My wife was saying that she wondered just how much of when I was ill two years ago was down to anxiety and panic and how much down to the arrythmia (mostly atrial flutter at the time). It's a complex web to untangle.

Steve

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belindalore

Wondering if it could be your anxiety kicking in anticipating your holiday. You also said you'd started on a diet? Maybe because of the diet you aren't getting enough nutrients? Hoping it's just something simple and it doesn't bother you again. Take care. Safe trip.

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Goldfish7

I feel your panic! I think I'm in denial that short AFib attacks are creeping in with me again after an ablation at the end of 2018. Hoping they may be flukes or that they remain short and mild as they appear to be rather than returning to the horrendous rapid paroxysmal AF attacks that I used to end up in hospital with. I'm keeping everything crossed for the both of us!!

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Idahohorse

Moraine, we have the same issue. First, let me acknowledge that the reoccurrence of Afib is disappointing and a little scary. However, such anxiety only adds to the issue. My ablation lasted for two years. Then “Wham!” It was backed. I was put back on a horrible prescription called Amiodarone. By chance I was introduced to an exceptional acupuncturist who introduced me to a book “Breathing”. Further, one of the volunteers with healthunlocked.com suggested “deep breathing”. Moraine, it worked,the deep breathing. My pulse rate, blood pressure and oxygen levels are excellent. Also off the drugs. Do the exercise “correctly “ several time a day. It also helps with my Apnea.

Addition information I am a 78 yom who owns a ranch which requires a healthy body. It is good to be back working up a sweat. Good luck and what I really believe is I added a few sincere prayers to each exercise.

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