Ectopics

[higgy52]

Was getting some bad Ectopics a month ago,

had a E C G, cardiologist said i should cut down on coffee and Tea, My self i think i was overdoing it at work, but will never know,

I had a blood test for my sodium, Magnesium, and Potassium all normal,

Started taking Magnesium, but is it worth taking extra Magnesium if my levels are normal

[PlanetaryKim]

Level of magnesium in your blood apparently has no meaningful correlation to level in muscle - particularly heart muscle. Because the magnesium in your peripheral blood only represents %1 of the magnesium in your body. So it is not a useful measure. The only real test for the is an Intracellular Magnesium EXA Test. But these are extremely hard to come by. Very few labs even do it. Next best thing (or so I am told) is Red Blood Cell Magnesium test. You could ask your doctor for that, but would probably have to pay for it yourself.

[higgy52 in reply to PlanetaryKim]

Thanks, since iv'e been taking it im back to normal the ectopic have gone took about 3 weeks, hope they dont come back, was getting them every 2nd ore 3rd beat

[PlanetaryKim in reply to higgy52]

That is great! What type of magnesium are you taking and how much?

[higgy52 in reply to PlanetaryKim]

Magnesium citrate, was taking 420 mg a day but cut it down to 300mg as i have fish and eggs most days

[CDreamer]

As you say you may never know but I do know that overdoing things was the trigger for me. Getting plenty of rest and slow breathing exercises do help but may be worth reducing consumption of tea and coffee or trying decaf versions.

[Ppiman]

The last time I looked, I could find no decent scientific evidence that taking oral magnesium salts will do anything except cure constipation, which it does brilliantly and safely; plenty of folk believe it does help arrythmias such as ectopic beats, however.

The mineral is very widely available in all green vegetables, so the chances of your being short of it from a decent balanced diet are slim, and the most easily absorbed form is that which exists in the chlorophyll of all green leafy vegetables. From what I can gather, if a person is low in magnesium, they would likely be low in other minerals, too, and be showing a range of symptoms.

Steve

[higgy52 in reply to Ppiman]

Interesting,

iv'e heard if you go in Hospital with fast A F, they some times put you on a Magnisium drip

[Ppiman in reply to higgy52]

I guess that could be why the ideas around oral magnesium sprung up? The absorption of magnesium through the small intestine is very different indeed, I gather, from putting it straight into the heart.

Steve

[Ecki in reply to Ppiman]

I've been taking 400mg magnesium citrate for some months now and my constipation has got worse......

[Ppiman in reply to Ecki]

Oh dear. Constipation can be an awful thing from which to suffer. Mine comes along with my IBS and diverticula diseases so I need to keep it at bay.

The dose of magnesium needed for constipation is much higher than you’re taking. 400mg of magnesium citrate is a tiny dose used only as a daily food supplement. To treat occasional constipation, I gather that a dose of around 5-6g of elemental magnesium is needed, taken at night. Magnesium citrate contains only 16% elemental magnesium, so each capsule provided you with only 64mg of it. To get 5g if magnesium, you’d need a lot of tablets!

When my six large daily prunes and glass of prune juice fails me, I take about 30ml of Milk of Magnesia at bedtime. which is 12g of magnesium hydroxide, or 5g equivalent of active magnesium.

Fir use as an occasional laxative, I think you would be better buying Phillips Milk of Magnesia with by far the cheapest in the UK being from Home Bargains or similar (at £3.50 a large bottle).

Steve

[Pearipile-55 in reply to Ecki]

you get constipated because you don't drink enough water!

[Ecki in reply to Pearipile-55]

I take in at least 4 litres of water each day, plus whatever in all the fruit and veg I eat (approx 10 portions daily). I think that's enough!

[Pearipile-55 in reply to Ecki]

400 is a little, take more, even double, the excess is eliminated without problems! 4 l of water is too much and can be harmful!

[kalgs]

Look on YouTube for Dr Sanjay Gupta . Magnesium video .

[kalgs]

Look on YouTube for Dr Sanjay Gupta . Magnesium

[Padayn01]

For me I stop taking magnesium altogether when my ectopics were bad and they have slowed down a bit, try drinking some coconut water to replace electrolytes naturally

[cuore]

Hi higgy52, good to hear you are still in sinus, albeit, you have ectopics. Are you also on an anti-arrhythmic drug to keep AF at bay, and have you had any episodes of arrhythmia? I am on Propafenone still because when I tried to go off of it, I did get an episode of arrhythmia.

I do agree with your "overdoing it" because I had two desserts heavily ladened with Sambuca and I got an episode-- the second in a year and a quarter.

So. like you, after three ablations, that AF is still lurking ready to pounce.

[higgy52 in reply to cuore]

Yes i'm on 40 mg Sotalol,

Cardiologist said if i get bad Ectopics again take a extra tablet.

Had a few runs of fast heart rate over the last 20 months but only last about 5 seconds

[cuore in reply to higgy52]

Five seconds was way better than me whereupon mine lasted about four or five hours. I had two runs, the first at 8 or 9 months when I stopped Propafenone completely, and the second, back on Propafenone but triggered by two desserts heavily ladened with Sambuca.