Supplements and AF

[Timpsonboy]

Just reading up on supplements and thinking of trying some to improve my heart health and maybe symptoms but unsure if I'm doing more bad than good.A study suggests the following are good for AF . magnesium Citrate,Taurine,Carnite,Coenzyme and Aeginine .Am I nor only throwing my money away but potentially doing myself harm?

[Paulbounce]

Magnesium is recommended for us afibbers. Start on a lower dose (I've split it half morning and half at night) and build up. If you take a larger dose to start then make sure you have good access to a loo. From memory I bought some 800 mg magnesium tablets and used to split them up. Google it and find the recommended dose.

To be honest I've not taken any for a few months now. I should I know but it's the way it's been.

Buy from a good supplier - not eBay sellers for example and you should be OK. I don't think you are 'throwing your money' away if you do. It is said to help afib.

Paul

Edit - I wrote 'It is said to help afib'. Just to add it is not a 'cure'. Magnesium might help a little but there's no guarantee at all. Just to clarify that

[Timpsonboy in reply to Paulbounce]

Great advice thank you .yes I'm sure if it cured it we could have done away with all the cardioversion and ablation treatments lol I'm just open to ideas to help alleviate things like palpitations and try and help my heart to be as healthy as it possibly can be so any advice is welcome

[Cb1234a in reply to Paulbounce]

Magnesium oxide can cause that problem. They go straight through people because very little of magnesium oxide is absorbed so it’s not recommended. Unfortunately most magnesium sold (and put in multivitamins) is magnesium oxide. Magnesium citrate, taurate, malate etc are absorbed well by the body and therefore effective.

[jeanjeannie50]

This cardiologist is well respected, here he talks about magnesium:

youtube.com/watch?v=Ckdcr-c...(Not working as expected?)

Click on the play arrow, despite what appears on the screen

[Timpsonboy in reply to jeanjeannie50]

Thanks jean

[Timpsonboy in reply to jeanjeannie50]

Just watched it and it's very interesting just what I needed thank you

[PlanetaryKim]

Supplements I am currently taking daily for heart health (but I am refining this list all the time) are: Magnesium bisglycinate, Taurine, Co-enzyme Q10 (ubiquinol, which is the active form), Vitamin D3, and Curcumin (an anti-inflammatory as well as slight anti-coagulant).

I have read about many more recommended for heart health, But I need to keep things simple with supplements. If I start taking too many things, then I bail on all of it. I don't really like taking pills. So this is my list for now. It may be different a month from now! Good luck to you.

kim

[secondtry in reply to PlanetaryKim]

Hi Kim, my Naturopath keeps it simple for his AF patients just CoQ10 & a magnesium compound- ingredients per link nutriadvanced.co.uk/megamag...

[PlanetaryKim in reply to secondtry]

Thank you! That magnesium compound is quite comprehensive. For me, compounds are a problem because they will have ingredients I don't actually want, or that might be problematic for me, or in doses that are higher than I want. But for sure a compound like that makes things simpler if you can tolerate it all.

Have you noticed improvement since you started taking it? And how much CoQ10 do you take? I take 100 mg daily (Ubiquinol), which isn't very much.

kim

[secondtry in reply to PlanetaryKim]

I don't have other health issues and so for me the Mg compound hasn't caused any problems. All the ingredients have not been endorsed here but certainly Mg, Taurine, and Potassium have. 6 years ago I started on 200mgs/day Flecainide and for 3 months no episodes but felt weird, then started Mg compound and CoQ10 felt better and so have taken them daily ever since - to date no side effects. I was told by my Naturopath I need to be at the top of the normal range for both Mg & CoQ10. Up until recently I was testing every 6 months, CoQ10 was over the top off the range so cut back to 100mgs at weekends; Mg remains at the bottom of the range despite taking the compound and using a spray-on Mg oil. i hope something there helps.

[PlanetaryKim in reply to secondtry]

Thank you for this info!

[wilsond in reply to PlanetaryKim]

Kim I've literally just had a Healthspan brochure through the door. It lists Ubiquinol 100 mg and a side note says this is "equivalent to 280mg of efficiently converted CoQ10"

So it seems more effective at a lower dose than CoQ10 (?)

X

[PlanetaryKim in reply to wilsond]

I have heard that too - that's why I specified which type of Co-Q10 I take. Ubiquinol is the "activated" version which our body can use immediately. Ubiquinone (the other form of Co-Q10 sold) needs to be converted first. They are side by side on the shelf at my health food store.

The thinking is that people over 40 (or 45?) lose some of the ability to readily convert, so should take Ubiquinol version, although it is more expensive than Ubiquinone. Both are Co-Q10, But dosage does differ between the 2 to deliver the same quantity of actual Co-Q10 to body. I feel it confuses things when people don't specify which type of Co-Q10 they're talking about, because the dosage differs between the 2.

Same with Vitamin K2 - the dosage if Mk4 version is different from Mk7 version.

[Kaz747]

My heart felt calmer within days of starting magnesium. I also take CoQ10.

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Not a waste of money IMO.

I started taking mag citrate but found it a bit rough on my digestive system 🚽 but now take mag glycinate which I find to be much kinder. End result is a "quieter" heart

Added bonus, my blood pressure is measurably lower and I sleep much better.

I also take vitamin D3 for the last 3 years and research is showing that it may be a help if you have to fight covid-19

Vit C and cod liver oil capsules are the other two I take

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My new doctor recommended Vitamin D3, Magnesium and Vitamin E. For BP he recommended Hibiscus Tea, Celery Seed, Green Tea and Grapeseed Extract. To improve Circulation he recommended Hawthorne. For Blood sugar control he recommended Cinnamon. Since my episodes have a huge gastric connection, he recommended Apple Cider Vinegar. But his most important recommendation was absolutely no sugar and to limit fructose to that found in berries. Sugar causes inflammation.

[Morzine]

I take nothing...just try and keep healthy....guess it depend how old u r........I see it as a waste of money........I can’t imagine anything can be as good as a decent diet....but that’s my way of dealing with it......

Sue