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Unpleasant post ... passing wind / Afib / fodmap

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So the other night after taking 2x50 mg flecainide at 6pm and 9pm ( trying to be clever by heavily weighting my dosing until the evening ,feeling confident of defeating Mr Afib that night ,and thinking ahaa I have got you this time ) I had a breakthrough at 11pm ....

“ oh for fks sake “ was my response which the neighbours may have heard .

What was interesting though , was that I had previously had a suspicion that eating / gasses etc may be one of the contributing factors ... and I noticed prior to 11pm I was feeling particularly more gaseous than usual - and that i wasn’t sure if it was all gas or maybe Afib starting ... so I thought I would experiment ,and deliberately held back from passing wind.... then with the pressure building ( images of scotty saying she’s gonna blow captain ) and a giant fart pending ,I let rip ....

Instantly I felt my wrist and there it was boom 💥, hence the following ASBO sound level industrial language response .

Now I must add my pulse was normal before this, as I was checking frequently because of the un certainty / similarity regarding gas bubbly / Afib feeling .

Sorry if this is crude , but this is exactly how it occurred .... which has made me look more into digestion and in particular FODMAP....

So although rather deflated from such a defeat to Mr Afib ( was like being 3-0 up with 10 mins to go and losing 3-4) given my pre episode defensive strategy ( flecainide 6/9pm ) , I did have a straw to clutch - that being that I may have found a / one possible trigger .

So , has anyone previously discussed / experience with fodmaps or recognise /be familiar with what may have happened here ?

Again I’m asking questions , but I’m still a relative newbie .

( My circumstances are that I have very low resting heart / otherwise very healthy-fit and Afib always occurs at night ).

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While on this topic you may be wise to research Vagus or Vagal Nerve. Also, click on my username and see if you can get into my previous posts on this topic.

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I’m not a fan of FODMAP but I know some part of it can work for some people. I found dairy & gluten were my antagonists - and the most common along with sugar.

Best way to find out is to experiment by keeping a meticulous food/symptom diary.

Also maybe worth checking for SIBO

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A breath test is not definitive as there a wide error margin but SIBO can cause the symptoms you describe & is easily treated.

Connection between digestion & heart - definately for me.

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Low resting heart rate does it for me. In a previous post I mentioned by serendipity I met my first excellent Consultant Cardio in a social setting. On talking about Afib he said one precursor is people who have been very fit and active with a slow heart rate . Seems you cant win.

Other posts mention Vagus. I'm more and more convinced that there is more of a link with your biome than has so far been discovered.

Blast away my friend and beat the bxxtard.

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Davidv45runner in reply toTryfan

Thanks for reply .

I’m gradually learning a lot more and should be able to help newer forum members in a few months .

At the moment I’m just taking the info in without contributing much - but that’s how we all started .

Yes the low resting heart rate is certainly a factor .

I think in my circumstance because it is very slow it is much easier to knock out of sync so not the cause of Afib but something that makes Afib more likely to occur .

Add in bodily disturbances ( gas etc ) and there is one of your triggers .

Fodmaps looks so limiting ! ... so for now I am trying to strongly cut out high fodmap foods for the evening meal only .. but not for earlier in the day .

Positive side effect of AFIB ...

Prior to my recent episode I felt a little cold ( had a very very slight cold I think ) so once Afib came on and my HR increased I warmed up a little ... so thanks for that Mr Afib haha .

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Yes, I think your PAF is vagally mediated. I am afraid quite a bit of homework to do to identify triggers (some mentioned above). Certainly eat early and light in the evening 4 hours before bed. Until you have a better understanding of your individual AF, I would ask your cardiologist to go onto a regular 100mgs per day to prevent the AF building up. Incidentally, I (66yo & active) have a 55 HR and my cardio gave me just Flecainide (most medics prescribe it with another drug) as he said anything else would make me feel unwell - so far after 6 years he has been right as my QOL is veery good.

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