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Silly question but it popped in my head last night .

Is there any risk of having a AF episode from having our hair coloured .

Due to a reaction many years ago I cannot use perminent colouring due to PPD chemicals that are present in the dye and my wash in wash out that I use is being discontinued.

Was like I said a thought that popped in my head last night 😄

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Very much doubt it in view of number of women having their colours done at hair salons ! And men too ! Dont know how I would cope if that was the case as going grey is not an option.....prob a wig or two 😕😁

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Vonnieruth in reply to

Think I be doing that soon as I cannot find another none permanent colour as of yet

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CDreamer

I don’t think here is any such thing an SSS - much as my son disagrees with me as he tells me I ask them all the time (SSS - seriously silly question). History tells us that SSS’s are often spot on, however........

Because a thought pops into your head doesn’t mean it carries any relevance as our minds like to keep busy - the practice of Mindfulness and Meditation is an attempt to quieten the mind.

The first question I would ask is to the gentleman.....Concerning this question how often do you have your hair coloured?

I would suspect that few on this forum will have had their hair coloured but they do have AF so I couldn’t possibly see any connection there at all.

Vonnieruth profile image
Vonnieruth in reply toCDreamer

Well it was just a thought but glad there probably isn't

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mishugenah in reply toVonnieruth

I'd be so depressed, going gray-er, I'd most likely have an afib episode ;)

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BobDVolunteer in reply toCDreamer

Funnily enough after seeing myself in the photo I was considering making an appointment. lol

CDreamer profile image
CDreamer in reply toBobD

Blue or pink wash?

BobD profile image
BobDVolunteer in reply toCDreamer

oh I though light honey blonde like Sam. Must get it done before HRC.

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CaroleF in reply toBobD

Can't wait to see that, BobD !!

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Gladaven in reply toBobD

Please Bob what does HRC mean? Sorry for my ignorance. Cheers Gladys. XX

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Vonnieruth in reply toBobD

Full head or highlights Bob lol

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Gladaven in reply toVonnieruth

Hi what does Bob mean by HRC? I have coloured my hair for 30 yrs and have AF your question. is not silly but tell me please, do you or have you ever 🚬 smoked, another silly question maybe????? Cheers Gladie. Xx.

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Vonnieruth in reply toGladaven

Smoked years ago Stopped ten years ago now Why may I ask

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Gladaven in reply toVonnieruth

Hi Vonnie like you I was searching my brains, came up with smoking as a possible cause of this rotten AF. Wondered then how many would think my idea silly (but it could be an answer) 😢sadly in fact one of many, who can say for certain what can hit the nail on the head not even very clever, wise doctors lol. I gave up smoking 13yrs ago. Kind regards Glad. XX.

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BobDVolunteer in reply toGladaven

Heart Rhythm Conference Patient's Day on 7th October In Birmingham England.

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Hilly22 in reply toBobD

Blonde hair and grey moustache Bob? No one will ever guess your secret lol

in reply toCDreamer

If only I could find a pink to match my frock! 🤪

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Vonnieruth in reply to

Change of dress maybe 😁

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jonjub

Morning Vonnieruth. It has crossed my mind in the past. There are hair products on the market, especially hair loss shampoos, that contain caffeine to stimulate the scalp and encourage growth. I would imagine, with no expertise, that this presents an opportunity for a potential reaction with Afib. I have a vague feeling that the ‘warning on the bottle’ mentions ‘certain heart conditions’ and to avoid. Our life is a minefield!

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Becksagogo in reply tojonjub

Thank you for your post. I was looking at one of these caffeine shampoos yesterday as my medication is making my hair fall out. It never occurred to me that the caffeine may trigger AF episodes. And yet I don't drink anything that contains caffeine!

The only reason I didn't buy it was the price (£9 for shampoo ).

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Finvola

For 40 years I ‘struggled’ with hair that started to change from very dark to grey when I was under 30. I dread to think of the dangerous chemicals that my scalp absorbed during those years of permanent dyeing. Did it trigger AF? Probably not . .

Can’t help with non permanent dyes but . . . I went natural four years ago and discovered silver shampoo!! You can adjust the strength of the colour from a lovely cool shine to real purple head, should the mood take you. 😈

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Vonnieruth in reply toFinvola

I'm thinking the same to be honest Was looking at the bottle the other day

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Finvola in reply toVonnieruth

I have to say that seeing the white/grey emerging from my lovely ash blond highlighted dye was daunting but I've had more compliments on the grey than I ever had with the various dyed jobs. The beauty of it is - if you don't like it - you can go back.

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doodle68

Hi Vonnie :-) I hope work is going well and you are not getting too tired.

I think the answer to your question is 'who knows' . It is thought by many doctors including Dr Gupta that inflammation which builds up in our bodies over the years is a contributory factor to AF . So anything that has added to the inflammation possibly caused in part by a cocktail of chemicals could be a 'culprit' for some people who are susceptible.

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Vonnieruth in reply todoodle68

Work is ok I do get very tired Start my return to full shifts this Sunday Dreading It to be honest

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Hilly22

Hi Vonnie

I’ve spent quite a few years trying to find the best way to cover my grey bits! My skin used to react to the ammonia that was in most dyes, but there’s something you can get now called naturvital which I keep meaning to try.

If it’s just roots you could try using a blending wand which washes out, like Josh Woods.

Or maybe go red using henna!

All the best for Sunday, take a break if and when you need one eh? x

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Vonnieruth in reply toHilly22

Thanks Hills hope your ok Will take it slow with plenty breaks

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Vonnieruth

Could be

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Vonnieruth

Good morning So why do you ask if I smoked

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Polski

Any chemical that we put into our bodies, whether through the stomach or through the skin, has the potential to cause problems, and some of us are more susceptible than others. Some chemicals may have this effect, others may not, but as probably noone has done the research, noone will know.

Probably best to assume they don't, but if you think a particular die may have caused you problems, then avoid that one next time! (If we assumed that everything that could cause problems will cause problems, what a limited life we will lead! Much better to make the opposite assumption, and live life to the full, but be alert for possible reactions which can be avoided in the future)

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LindaDaisy

Noooooooo. I will never go grey voluntarily.

Vonnieruth profile image
Vonnieruth in reply toLindaDaisy

Lol I may have no choice Seeing I'm allergic to perminent colouring as some got in a cut on my scalp

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LindaDaisy in reply toVonnieruth

Hopefully Aqua_1 might be able to point you in the direction on a safe tint. I know my hairdresser says they are taking more nasty chemicals out nowadays.

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Aqua_1

No problem at all Vonnieruth. I tint my hair and also get foils. No greys for me!

Vonnieruth profile image
Vonnieruth in reply toAqua_1

Are you in the uk

Aqua_1 profile image
Aqua_1 in reply toVonnieruth

No im in Australia.

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Aqua_1

By the way my hairdresser uses Goldwell Nectaya range which is low on chemicals and no ammonia.

Vonnieruth profile image
Vonnieruth in reply toAqua_1

Thanks will look that up It's the ppd chemicals in allergic to

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Aqua_1 in reply toVonnieruth

Me too :-)

Vonnieruth profile image
Vonnieruth in reply toAqua_1

Oh and that's ok Is it

Aqua_1 profile image
Aqua_1 in reply toVonnieruth

Yes it is. No problems at all for me with this range. Im sure there's other ranges that don't include PPD.

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Aqua_1 in reply toVonnieruth

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