Many years ago when my kids stressed me out I used this Rescue and found it quite uplifting. Please can anyone tell me if it safe to use now with warfarin, bisoprolol and all the other crap we have to take now that we are striken with AF. I would be be very grateful for your knowledge and experience as I feel in dire need of a calming pickmeup. It is called Bach Flower Rescue Remedy. Cheers Gladie.
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Since we are not medically trained we may not advise on such matters. Please talk to your pharmacist about any possible contra indications.
It’s absolutely fine - I use it a lot. As it is homeopathic it has minute traces of active ingredients - it works more like memory of water ie water takes on the characteristics properties of the object.
Try the Calm Rescue Remedy melts - really helpful to carry in your pocket. In fact a chemist friend of mine investigated it after I had thrust it under her tongue when she was in severe melt down - it was SO effective she wanted to know what worked so I gave her my bottle to test. She couldn’t find a trace of anything! But she still uses it because it helped.
I don’t know what they use now but they used to use tines amounts of brandy as a preservative but they stopped that some time ago.
Thank you CDreamer for your words of wisdom, seems you and your friend have good personal experience of Rescue. Do you also remember a nerve tonic called Phosferine from many years ago. (Really shows my age now LOL) Regards Gladie.
No, sorry I don't know that one at all. x
You may find the Bach Centre info helpful as its not just Rescue Remedy which can be helpful.
bachcentre.com/centre/first...
I did a course there many years ago and love their ethos and way of working.
I can second all your comments CDreamer about Bach Flower Remedies. I've used them for many years with friends and family. I introduced them to my OH, a sceptical scientist - he's now a convert,but like your chemist friend, can't find any material substance present.
If it is homeopathic then it is safe because any feelings you get that it is working is a placebo effect. Water wouldn't harm you.
Its not strictly a homeopathic remedy but is of similar principles. A placebo only according to some scienctific models - but look at Physics & particle physics in particular and the memory of water theory - and it may be more than just placebo affect.
Whatever - If it works and is not harmful - why not use it! Dr Bach Rescue Flower Remedies & Rescue Remedy has been around for near 100 years now.
The memory of water theory has been debunked. I am pretty much interested in particle physics from a scientific viewpoint, including quantum physics but people like Deepak Chopra end up misrepresenting it and making it sound reasonable to people who are not well versed in it. I have no problem with placebo effects; the person using them would be well advised not to substitute them for conventional treatments......also because something has been around for 100 years doesn't mean it is especially effective. If it is not harmful (other than directing people away from known and tested therapies) then I am ok with it. Science is not relative. It does, however, build upon new and emerging information, one of the reasons we don't use garlic anymore to ward off the bubonic plague. Also, some herbal remedies for anxiety and depression do work. but they are not homeopathic....you drink them or take them in a certain quantity to be effective....passionflower/valerian/kava- kava/skull cap/chamomile etc. St John's Wort can be dangerous for people on blood thinners of the NOAC variety, as can some of the other herbs...best to check...but if you are drinking water with six molecules of something it it, you are good to go.
The items you mentioned are herbal, not homeopathic - so yes - you need to take very great care.
We agree on the power of the mind - but I also think just because we can’t explain things or find evidence for something that it doesn’t exist - particle or wave?
Interestingly Dr Bach was a medical doctor and research scientist working on vaccines in the 1920’s-30s. The fact that we still use his preparations and they are available in large pharmacies the world over and they have never, ever been marketed is testimony in itself.
bachcentre.com/centre/drbac...
The remedies work on the emotional response and therefor are ideal for anxiety etc.
I don't really want to go into the homeopathic debate only to say that its untrue that it hasn't been scientifically tested. Also I use homeopathy on my dogs and sheep with marvellous results so no chance of a placebo effect!! Gladaven, I do use Rescue Remedy in homeopathic tablets and am usually de-stressed by them - that could be placebo I agree, but who am I to say?
Hi Helena, as you say, dogs and sheep can hardly respond to a placebo effect have ordered the Rescue Spray could you tell me what are the Rescue Tablets you mention please.Cheers Gladie. X.
Homeopathy has been debunked in scientific literature. Sources other than scientific ones will disagree. Quackwatch has information on it as well as a host of other science journals. I don't want to debate this as it is like debating religion....no amount of evidence to the contrary will change peoples' beliefs and anecdotal evidence is not evidence at all...in the science community but not in the alternative one. We have the choice to do what we see as beneficial and as long as it doesn't cause harm...and even then, if you have been given the information, no one can say they haven't been told. (Having had breast cancer twice I can attest to the number of women that have by-passed conventional treatment for that of hucksters...to their detriment). Light acts as a particle and a wave.
Hi, Im a fairly regular user of Rescue Remedy and I find it invaluable
in times of stress or worry. I must also confess I never really checked
to see if it was safe with my meds. I also use the ' Night ' one because
I do like a good old worry at night and I have Restless Leg Syndrome.
It does settle the mind but Im not so sure about the legs.
Magnesium is said to work for restless legs.
Magnesium is also good for depression, anxiety and a host of other things - if you are deficient - but is also contraindicated for a few conditions. For me it could be life threatening.
Since taking one tablet of Magnesium together with one Vitamin E tablet each evening I've been free of restless legs for over 5 years. Previously I suffered with it 2 or three nights a week.
I take the magnesium bisglycinate 150mg. and get a good night's sleep too. Certain medical conditions are problematic with magnesium so one has to make sure they pass it by their doctor. Actually, any magnesium will do, even mag. oxide IF it says highly absorbable....save money that way...lol. Glad you don't have the restless legs anymore......now if I could find something to help burning mouth syndrome.....
I get my magnesium 375mg from Boots and it seems to contain Magnesium Oxide and Stearate. I checked with the pharmacist (but not the doctor) after I was put on Warfarin because I was already taking the Magnesium and he confirmed that it was safe to continue using both. The Vitamin E oil is to aid absorption. It's quite expensive in my opinion but oh, the benefits far outweigh that!
When I mentioned the benefits I was referring to the way 'Restless legs' had been affecting my life before taking the Magnesium. I used to spend nights on end unable to rest, walking up and down for hours because I couldn't keep my legs still. I'd be exhausted through the days after a session. When I went out to functions I was unable to sit still on a chair or seat. When driving any distance I had to stop frequently to and at times it became quite dangerous if on a motorway. I had tried all sorts of ways to stop including massage and exercises to stretch the muscles.
I think it can vary - I have recommended the combination (magnesium and Vit E) to several others who suffer but I realise that for some it's just an annoyance, as the name suggests and to others, much worse. I think if it had some latin name it might be taken more seriously!!!!
Fingers crossed ! Sotalol
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