Dr. John Bergman: Chiropractic Vs. Drugs & Surgery #69, The Life Stylist Podcast

[EngMac]

We are all trying very hard to deal with AF. Unfortunately most of the posts on this HealthUnlocked site have to do with drug issues and operation issues that have varying degrees of success. Based on all these posts, are we really achieving acceptable results for most people. No doubt there are some positive results but with the need to tolerate all the inconvenience, risks and negative results traditional doctors think are acceptable. It seems we need to be aware that they do not have the definitive answers and we cannot be totally trustful of what is recommended.

In the following video, you will likely learn something new to most of you that could be very helpful. You may decide to find a competent chiropractor as is described in this video. My experience has shown me that chiropractic can be very helpful without many negative side effects. There can be some minor negatives through the process which will be dependent upon each person's adjustment needs. Some people may be lucky and need less corrections than others.

If you can find a doctor like Dr. Bergman your will be very fortunate. The chiropractor that I now have is good but does not cover all aspects of treatment that Dr. Berman does, maybe because I don't take advantage of all he has to offer, he does not have the same medical training or because he has never treated atrial fibrillation on a person like me who gives him feedback he has never had before. He is a novice about AF but willing to use his knowledge to fix me based on what feedback I give to him. Fixing AF is a partnership with whoever doctor in whom you put your trust.

Take the time to look at this video.

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[10gingercats]

For a start I do not much like this jovial style of interview,It is not reassuring .Secondly I do need evidence,more evidence than offered here before I would I subject myself to chiropractor treatment .,some which I have had.I agree there is plenty of room for improvement with drug based treatments and surgery but there is quite a lot of evidence they work.It may well be that e.g good posture might help AF and good breathing techniques plus meditation but these ,I say,have more basis for success than what you are promoting.

[EngMac in reply to 10gingercats]

Wow, I doubt that you had time to view this 1.5 hour video since I posted it 4 minutes before your reply. Maybe you should view it first before making a response that could negatively influence others. But that is the great thing about this site, we all get to voice our opinion.

[10gingercats in reply to EngMac]

The people on this site are more than intelligent enough to make up their own minds and not be swayed by anything I might say.As for not watching the whole of the video .I saw enough to give me a flavour of it thank you.

[Hidden]

A chiropractor deals with neuromuscular problems. It is not the person I would have wanted to treat my tumour in my heart, my many electrical heart problems nor insert my pacemaker. With respect each to their own area of expertise.

[Maggimunro in reply to Hidden]

I agree with you entirely frills. To assume that knowing how to manipulate a spine (which I can do) is the cure to the heart’s electrical issues is beyond credance.

I hope people aren’t mislead by this.

[EngMac]

I probably should clarify that atrial fibrillation is not mentioned in the video. But the other content may help some people overcome their misconception about chiropractors and educate them about how important the nerves in the spine are to our whole body health.

[EngMac]

Hi Frills, I agree that all medical specialties have their place. Chiropractors do not really work on neuromuscular problems only, but mainly the nerves themselves. It is possible you may not have needed a pacemaker if a competent chiropractor had treated you prior to all your heart issues. Since I have tried to learn more about what chiropractors can do, that is why I posted this video, I now know they can be the first line of treatment before surgery and drugs. It seems the appropriately trained ones should be part of your healthcare regimen from birth, as are dentists, eye doctors, etc.

And like many people, this was not my understanding prior to doing research and experiencing some, initially reluctant, but what the heck take a chance, treatment which has done more to help eliminate my AF than anything else that I have tried. I fully expect, eventually, AF will be eliminated completely. At least that is the direction things are headed now. If it happens, it is likely that I will always need to visit a chiropractor on a monthly basis or maybe less often. What's neat though is all the side benefits the chiropractic treatments will produce. He always checks my lower back and always adjusts it. I never have lower back pain now. A once a month, or even more often visits, is ok since this could eliminate or delay risky operations and very harmful drugs.

[Hidden]

Thankyou for sharing this. Ive watched about 30 min of the video, saved to to watch later. Im a believer in the body wants to right itself. Ive been an RN for 43 yr( retired now) so I know we need modern medicine but believe we need to incorporate holistic practices when we can. Ive only dealt with a fib( paf) for almost 21/2 yr , currently on pip as daily meds were almost intolerable. My EP told me from the first appt that if I made some major life style changes( wt loss, healthy diet, exercise) my a fib would be " less aggressive"; I have found that to b true. My episodes went from 10 hour rough a fib to 2-3 hour tolerable a fib. Last episode was 11 mo apart. I realize that can change for the worse in a heart beat( pun intended) but I believe we need to help our bodies as much as we can in any way we can. If I have to go on daily meds, I will. If my a fib becomes alot worse, I would consider an ablation. But if it stays 1-2 x a year, Im ok with that.

[secondtry in reply to Hidden]

Totally agree with your approach.

[secondtry]

Thank you Engmac, I will check the video out. In the meantime, I think your on-going chiropractor theory could help for some of us. My thinking being our body posture could be behind why some of us have to avoid sleeping on the left and with a raised head. Personally, I think the neck is key for me, where the Vagus Nerve is probably most likely to be pinched. In my early days with AF, I found when sitting I always needed extra cushions to support my head to be comfortable (and therefore relieve pressure on the neck). Now several years on with no AF, I find I don't need that same support any more...coincidence???

Keep up the good work and have a great day

[Polski]

Part of the problem lies in finding a chiropractor who's abiity we trust, combined with the expense of such on-going treatment, at least in the UK. The NHS will provide drugs and procedures at minimal or zero cost, but not regular visits to a chiropractor!

[Hidden]

I have watched this video and he does have a interesting a angle on it, poor posture can contribute to all manner of problems, there is definate link between poor posture and sleep apnea for example and most people on here know what that contributes to ! He does flag up some interesting points !

Andy

[Jacqlihe]

Thank you for sharing this with us I believe that afib is a very complex subject, and that each of us has different triggers and methods of dealing with it discusssing any contribution is useful and interesting , and I will save and listen to this one as i am intrigued

I have firmly believed in Chiropractors for a great number of years and will certainly discuss this with my current one- I believe anything which might prove useful is good to know as I simply do not ( proven fact although like bashing head on walls with some of the medical profession) react at all to the 15 plus types of pills they have tried on me!

Sadly the last pill debacle ( monday) meant I cancelled my apointment with an acupuncturist something I was also going to try

I would not condemn any posts unless they are comdemnatory, I believe we are responsible, helpful adults on this forum and can analyse there could be a number of things that could help and I welcome them

[Hidden in reply to Jacqlihe]

Yes, I always am interested in what others think and have tried.