Prolotherapy for tumors?

[Helpmate77]

I'm hearing it is good - or great!

[SteveTheJ]

Voodoo witch doctor nonsense IMHO. Others might disagree.

[Helpmate77 in reply to SteveTheJ]

Explain the old people living longer lives in places like Okinawa or Russia (where they climb up hills carrying buckets of water everyday). Exercise and diet can make a big difference. Are those factors voodoo in your humble opinion?

I have at least three cousins with MD behind their names. But, I believe that it is more than just medical school training that can help us live healthy lives. Give others a chance.

[Helpmate77 in reply to SteveTheJ]

The providers are killing tumors. Do more investigative work.

[swwags in reply to Helpmate77]

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[dhccpa]

I've never heard of it. Is it marketed well at all?

[Helpmate77 in reply to dhccpa]

Do a search - there are videos explaining how it works.

[dhccpa in reply to Helpmate77]

You've had very good results with it, though? Or you're just asking about it?

[Helpmate77 in reply to dhccpa]

Have not tried it yet. I am not a cancer patient. But I want to go to one for other reasons. It's difficult to get in! Others I know have recommended it.

[dhccpa in reply to Helpmate77]

You're not a prostate cancer patient? What brings you to this forum?

[Helpmate77 in reply to dhccpa]

My husband has lived with prostate cancer since the year 2000.

[dhccpa in reply to Helpmate77]

I understand. Please consider filling out his treatment history on the personal profile.

All info is voluntary, but it will help other interested parties understand how this use of any regular and/or alternative treatments have helped (or not). The profiles of other posters here are accessible and can provide examples of the type of info needed to be useful.

Just a suggestion, but someone might benefit from it. Thanks for your participation in the forum.

[SteveTheJ]

Prolotherapy is when they stick you with a bunch of needles to try to stimulate some response from your body. Both of my parents tried it with bad knees, it failed.

If you have case studies proving that prolotherapy works for cancer, provide same. All you have right now is opinions.

[Helpmate77 in reply to SteveTheJ]

Nope. They are using it to kill cancerous tumors now. I think it has improved. Do some searches.

[lokibear0803 in reply to Helpmate77]

"do more investigative work...do some searches" ??

Let's try to clarify something, if I may.

If I were to make some kind of claim, it would seem to me that the burden of proof is on me ... to provide some kind of references, or other documentation, peer reviewed evidence, etc. that backs up my claim.

But, if I were to make a claim, and then tell others that it's up to them to search for evidence, I wouldn't blame them to think this is disingenuous. After all, as we know, anyone can say anything.

Nuff said.

[Helpmate77 in reply to lokibear0803]

Just offered it as a possibility. A new friend just suggested it to me. I have pain in a lot of places.

[Helpmate77 in reply to SteveTheJ]

What year was that?

[RoseDoc in reply to SteveTheJ]

Exactly!

[RCOG2000]

the Ongley Institute in Ensenada,Baja California is an excellent provider of prolotherapy. They do not use it to treat cancer .

[Helpmate77 in reply to RCOG2000]

There are others who do.

[PELHA]

I tried this several times for neck pain. There is lidocaine in the needles so initially felt relief but it did not last. I went to a nationally known clinic in Oak Park, Illinois.

Update—Wow, had not thought of this for years so just looked him up on Reddit. Seems the guy was sued several times and maybe has moved to Florida. The office I went to is closed now. Was a Dr. Hauser at Caring Medical.

[Helpmate77]

I think there are maybe two versions of the prolotherapy.

I've seen Hauser's videos. He is not the person I am thinking of. But he seems to be a nice man. Have all doctors been sued several times?

I went to one in who never did anything but claimed to be an MD. Foreigner. I think he is gone now. Hopefully.

[PELHA in reply to Helpmate77]

He was sued enough that his office was closed and he moved out of state. Just reporting what I found. And that the method did not work for me. The general idea I believe was that ligaments do not have good blood flow so are slow to heal. The shots were to stimulate that response by inducing trauma. I guess similar to stressing muscles when you lift weights causing small tears that then the muscle grows. Anyway always good to thoroughly research anything like this.

[Helpmate77 in reply to PELHA]

I take collagen to help my ligaments stop disappearing. He is still active in Florida, I believe. I don't want steroids.

[PELHA in reply to Helpmate77]

We have collagen as well in hot beverages. We do several supplements—creatine and essential amino acids after weights.

[Helpmate77 in reply to PELHA]

I take Nature's Lab vitamins. Look at the ingredients sometime. My husband is the one with cancer. He eats lots of fresh veggies and meat. Three years on Lupron with PSA under 1.

He gets "homeowner" exercise.

[j-o-h-n]

Tell me all you know about Prolotherapy

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ChatGPT said: <===<<<

Prolotherapy, short for proliferative therapy, is a non-surgical treatment used to relieve chronic pain and musculoskeletal injuries by stimulating the body’s natural healing process. It involves injecting an irritant solution (usually a dextrose-based solution) into injured or weakened joints, ligaments, or tendons to promote tissue repair and strengthen connective tissues.

How It Works

The injected solution creates controlled inflammation, triggering the body's wound-healing response. This process:

Increases blood flow to the treated area.

Stimulates tissue repair and regeneration by attracting growth factors.

Strengthens ligaments and tendons, improving stability and reducing pain.

Conditions Treated with Prolotherapy

Prolotherapy is commonly used for:

Joint Pain & Arthritis (Knee, Shoulder, Hip, etc.)

Back & Neck Pain (Including degenerative disc disease)

Tendon Injuries (Tennis elbow, rotator cuff injuries, Achilles tendonitis)

Ligament Laxity & Instability (Hypermobile joints, chronic sprains)

Sciatica & Nerve Pain

Types of Prolotherapy

Dextrose Prolotherapy – The most common, using a sugar solution to stimulate healing.

PRP (Platelet-Rich Plasma) Prolotherapy – Uses concentrated platelets from the patient’s blood to enhance healing.

Stem Cell Prolotherapy – Uses stem cells from fat or bone marrow to promote tissue regeneration.

Benefits of Prolotherapy

Non-surgical & minimally invasive

Long-term pain relief by addressing the root cause

Improved joint stability & function

May reduce the need for pain medication or surgery

Potential Risks & Side Effects

Though generally safe, side effects may include:

Temporary pain/swelling at the injection site

Mild bruising or stiffness

Rare risk of infection

Effectiveness & Research

Studies suggest positive outcomes for conditions like knee osteoarthritis and chronic low back pain. However, some medical professionals remain skeptical due to a lack of large-scale clinical trials. Results can vary, and it may take multiple sessions for noticeable improvement.

CAUTION: REASON TO NEVER INJECT AN IRRITANT SOLUTION (USUALLY A DEXTROSE-BASED SOLUTION) DIRECTLY INTO YOUR PENIS - CAUSE IT FUCKING HURTS.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

[Helpmate77 in reply to j-o-h-n]

I have no experience with it. Might do some searches for reviews of it - or the different types.

[Helpmate77 in reply to j-o-h-n]

Thank you.

[PELHA in reply to j-o-h-n]

Yep that’s exactly why I tried it! Wish it had actually worked for me as it sounded logical. I had dozens of needles at a time. That was no fun!!