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I was diagnosed 02/2017, PSA 11.7

I had a radical prostatectomy 04/17, pelvic node positive

Salvage radiation 06/2017 - 09/2017, PSA 0.07

Casodex 06/2017 - 06/2019, PSA undetectable during

Rubraca 11/2020 - 11/2022, PSA @ start 0.19; end undetectable

Observation 11/2022 - 05/2024, PSA undetectable

Observation 05/2024, PSA 0.19; PSMA PET - single para-aortic node

SBRT 06/2024, PSA undetectable

Observation 06/2024 - 12/2024; PSA rising from undetectable to 0.7 on 12/12/2024.

Seeing new Medical Oncologist 12/19/2024.

Your thoughts and ideas would be appreciated.

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Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen

No ADT?

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Craig57 in reply toTall_Allen

Darn - did I put Coreg rather than Casodex? I had Casodex with initial radiation and for 2 years after. PSA undetectable that entire time. So I can still use ADT again.

Also, my new oncologist suggested I may be able to use Rubraca again. Apparently a fair number of people have horrible side effects. It only made me a bit tired.

Thanks for any ideas.

Craig

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Tall_Allen in reply toCraig57

I think of Casodex as ADT-lite, although some use 150 mg instead of more powerful ADT like Lupron or Orgovyx.

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Craig57 in reply toTall_Allen

Trying to figure out what next and when.

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RoseDoc

start with another PSMA scan. Depending upon the results from that, may want to consider triplet therapy. Discuss with your oncologist. Casodex alone is not the best treatment for you.

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Craig57 in reply toRoseDoc

what is triplet therapy?

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InqPers in reply toCraig57

Yes, agree with RoseDoc. You need a scan to see if there is any spread to pelvic lymph nodes or bones, other. From what I've read, Doublet therapy (1st generation ADT + 2nd generation like Abiraterone, etc.) could be called for if only pelvic lymph nodes, and Triplet therapy (ADT + 2nd gen ADT + Docetaxel chemo) would be an option if any spread to bone or other areas. Triplet is more aggressive, but may be more effective than doublet plus a non-systemic treatment like SBRT or IMRT radiation. Definitely hash these options out with a highly regarded GU Oncologist and keep us posted!

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Craig57 in reply toInqPers

Thank you

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j-o-h-n

Greetings Craig57,

Thoughts? Make sure the new M.O. knows his shit!!! Keep posting here. (BTW Your Gleason score RPD on 04/17 and your location city/state?)

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

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Craig57 in reply toj-o-h-n

Gleason was 9.

Looked at Transformer Trial?? Pts on Statins for cardiac reasons did better. I am on statins, just switched to Leqvio.

Pluvicto looks interesting. What is the triplet therapy I hear about?

I was on Rubraca from 11/20 to 11/22 and stated undetectable during it and for nearly 1-1/2 years following.

See new oncologist at MD Anderson Oncology Clinic next week. Stopped Rubraca 11/22 and PSA now steadily rising for about 6+ months. Currently 0.7

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j-o-h-n

From A I

Triplet therapy for prostate cancer refers to a treatment approach that combines three different therapies to manage advanced or metastatic prostate cancer. This strategy typically includes:

1. Androgen Deprivation Therapy (ADT)

Purpose: ADT is the cornerstone of treatment for advanced prostate cancer. It reduces the production or blocks the action of androgens (male hormones like testosterone), which fuel the growth of prostate cancer cells.

Methods:

Luteinizing hormone-releasing hormone (LHRH) agonists/antagonists (e.g., leuprolide, degarelix)

Orchiectomy (surgical removal of the testes, rarely used)

2. Androgen Receptor Pathway Inhibitor (ARPI)

Purpose: Enhances the effect of ADT by further blocking androgen receptor signaling, even in low-androgen environments.

Examples:

Enzalutamide

Apalutamide

Darolutamide

Abiraterone (often paired with prednisone or prednisolone to manage side effects)

3. Chemotherapy

Purpose: Targets rapidly dividing cancer cells, providing an additional mechanism to control the disease.

Example:

Docetaxel, often administered every three weeks for six cycles.

Indications for Triplet Therapy

Triplet therapy is typically recommended for men with high-risk metastatic hormone-sensitive prostate cancer (mHSPC), especially those with a heavy disease burden or other aggressive features. Studies suggest that combining these treatments can lead to improved survival and delayed progression compared to dual therapy (e.g., ADT plus chemotherapy or ADT plus ARPI).

Potential Side Effects

Due to the intensity of this approach, patients may experience side effects related to each component of the treatment, such as:

ADT: Fatigue, bone loss, cardiovascular risks, hot flashes, loss of libido.

ARPI: Fatigue, hypertension, falls, and cognitive issues.

Chemotherapy: Nausea, low blood counts, neuropathy, and increased infection risk.

The choice of triplet therapy is individualized, taking into account the patient’s overall health, extent of cancer, and preferences.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

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ron_bucher

Both of my oncologists are seeing a lot of patients' success with radiating tumors that appear on PSMA scans. That is the approach I am currently using, without ADT. My first tumor appeared earlier this year on PSMA scan at PSA = 0.45, but the radiologist missed flagging it. At PSA = 1.05 there was still only one visible tumor and I had SBRT. My PSA is now nearly undetectable and still decreasing.

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Craig57 in reply toron_bucher

thank you. I see my oncologist this week.

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Domas

What was your Gleason scrore?

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Craig57 in reply toDomas

At surgery, 9

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