Vitamin d3 can help also

[Cgrant1955]

I had prostate cancer since I was 55 I'm now 68 Drs out me on xdani with a lupon shot my number has been 0.08 but I also added vitamin D3 to help I'm happy so anyone wants to try it it works

[6357axbz]

How do you know it works?

[Cgrant1955 in reply to 6357axbz]

Someone told me about it I tried it and things started to improve look it up you won't be disappointed

[Cgrant1955 in reply to 6357axbz]

Try it you won't be disappointed

[6357axbz]

been using it for years

[JohnInTheMiddle]

This drives me crazy. Vitamin D (usually in the D3 form) isn't something that you take because your neighbor told you about it. Or because someone says "you won't be disappointed" (which sounds like a pitch for snake oil). It should be standard knowledge and protocol for anyone with prostate cancer.

Vitamin D is important for everyone regardless of health: we can't absorb calcium for bone maintenance without vitamin D. This is especially a concern in the northern hemisphere where diminished sunlight in winter results in lower vitamin D levels. (As most people will know, Vitamin D is strangely only produced via an interaction with sunlight on the skin!)

But vitamin D becomes especially important in circumstances of prostate cancer - when one is almost inevitably taking ADT. ADT by itself is typically putting one at risk for osteoporosis, apparently via the suppression of the little bit of estrogen that men also need. So we want to add extra calcium to our diet to compensate for the ensuing ADT-driven calcium loss. And in order to be able to benefit from this extra calcium, we take it together with vitamin D.

There's another good reason to take vitamin D. Before an edit apparently, the OP implied vitamin D contributes positively to the fight against prostate cancer. There is lots of research that supports this claim!

As always, one can take too much or too little vitamin D. And getting the calcium dosage correct is especially important. And the balance between the two must also be correct!

Under normal circumstances whether one can detect feeling better or worse depending specifically on whether one takes vitamin D or not, I have no idea.

[Cgrant1955 in reply to JohnInTheMiddle]

Vitamin D3 is safe there's vitamin d and vitamin D3 I been using this since 2009 but you don't have to try it if you don't want to vitamin D3 is man made vitamin d is natural

[Professorgary in reply to JohnInTheMiddle]

Doesn’t matter how well your calcium and vitamin D are balanced without enough magnesium the others aren’t properly utilized. When I went on Xgeva a few months my MO recommended calcium which I declined until a blood test. Calcium fine, Dexa scan normal bone density, I’ll keep taking vitamin D and Mg and stay away from calcium.

[JohnInTheMiddle in reply to Professorgary]

Magnesium! Very good point!

[KocoPr]

How does it work for you?

Are you taking K2 with it?

Before you take supplements what is your vit D level at?

[Cgrant1955]

My level is good I take this with the xtandi 40mg and lupon and my PSA is 0.08 for 5yr now

[KocoPr]

When you say your level of Vit d is good, have you measured it before going on vit D or have you measured lately? How do you know wether you’re taking to little or to much?

Are you taking it with K2?

What benefits do you feel from it?

[Cgrant1955 in reply to KocoPr]

If you look it up you will see that vitamin D3 kills cancer cell don't take my word for it and if you feel it's not for you then don't take it and no I don't take K2

[KocoPr in reply to Cgrant1955]

Can you provide a link/s. I can’t go looking others claims. If someone makes claims I assume they researched it and it would help if a link is posted

And you should be taking k2 with d3.

hindawi.com/journals/ije/20...

The Synergistic Interplay between Vitamins D and K for Bone and Cardiovascular Health: A Narrative Review

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/374...

“Effects of vitamins K2 and D3 supplementation in patients with severe coronary artery calcification: a study protocol for a randomised controlled trial”

[Mgtd in reply to Cgrant1955]

Not questioning you or the therapy but you may have missed his critical point in the post. Do you have to have a baseline level test and continue to monitor the level while on it? Are there any down sides?

[anonymoose2]

Cheese naturally contains vitamin D3 that’s why I eat a 1/8 pound per day as well I live in a very sunny part of the world as well It can also be produced in the skin following exposure to ultraviolet (UV) radiation from the sun, everyday I get in my birthday suit and for 30 minutes soak up that natural vitamin D3. I’m still alive and can’t complain. If you like cheese and sunbathing give it a try. 👍

[KocoPr in reply to anonymoose2]

Good points! Natural is always better. Another great way is to expose your edible mushrooms to the sun gill side up.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl....

[JohnInTheMiddle in reply to anonymoose2]

Some aged cheeses, especially Jarlsberg cheese (I eat two slices a day) also contains vitamin K2.

[Cgrant1955]

No down side it works for me just trying to help others to understand sometimes you learn from remedies from mothers and grandmothers sometimes science block things that should be known to a person

[Cgrant1955]

There's nothing more I can say about this just good luck everyone

[RMontana]

I take supplements and try to keep my D levels at 60 ng/ml. Normal is 40 and many, many people do not have this. Vitamin D is a very potent and important vitamin to watch and test for. Ask for this blood test next time you get your PSA levels tested. Check this out. Rick

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[KocoPr in reply to RMontana]

Especially this time of year unless you live on the equator. My D last week was 58. I generally take a 10,000iu vitd with k2 once or twice a week this time of year. During summer i never take it. I always eat grass fed beef butter and always uv my mushrooms either under the sun or iguana lamp.

[RMontana]

We need to take daily supplements regardless...even if we spend 2-3 hours in the sun most of us are clothed; we get barely enough sun to do any good. Our hands, neck and upper arms just dont have the surface area to produce enough D...so yes, we need to boost our levels. As you have found out a level of 40 is too low...it should be closer to 60 w a top of 100 reasonable...Rick

PS the K2 is also critical to take with the D3...TNX

[Kevinski65 in reply to RMontana]

There is a good amount of controversy about taking calcium and d3. As long as it doesn’t harm you then ok. I’ve taken many supplements. I’ve taken more aspirin than I should have. I’m at least 10 years out. Diagnosed in 2012 , it’s been lupron and Xtandi. Stage 4 , M1, psa 31 at diagnosis, doubling time 5 months. I took so many supplements I felt like a medicine head. I finally , now just take a few. Zyflamend whole body wormwood annua, resveratol, acytal cystine, and small amounts of aspirin. I also get a lupron shot and take 120 mgs Xtandi. I also take an antidepressant desimpramine which has some anecdotal evidence of slowing down PCa. Good luck and happy holidays.

with

[RMontana in reply to Kevinski65]

…what a journey. I can only hope for me that this can make me a better person. If not, then it surely is a waste of a challenge is it not?

The other thing that I supplement with is Sulforaphane. There is a lot of medical research on this compound and it slows down the growth of prostate cancer. I’ve written a lot about it on my site and you can find information there if you’re interested. I found a good supplement from England which I take ( there’s also a good one from France). On top of that I grow my own broccoli sprouts and consume 100 g a day. My prostate cancer has not come back yet but I figure if it slows down the growth and doubling of prostate cancer then it can’t help but prevent recurrence from starting.

Good luck. And the best of Holiday times.

[Gl448]

ugh.

I’ve been taking Vitamin D in some form or another my whole life, and doctor (nephrologist) prescribed 2,000 iu/per day in pill form since 2019. My blood level has maintained at 60-80 the last 4 years.

If Vitamin D kills cancer cells and “works” against Prostate Cancer, how did I get Stage 4B prostate cancer in 2022, that continued spreading until chemotherapy slowed it down?

24000 iu/week and still got cancer just about as bad as it gets. How would you explain that?

I’ll acknowledge that I don’t know what my cancer growth would be if I hadn’t been taking Vitamin D, but you Cgrant1955 have no information that you’ve shared that Vitamin D has had any affect on your cancer.

How do you know it “works” for you, and that your cancer isn’t where it’s at with just your Lupron and Xtandi? Has your PSA changed drastically? Has your tumor burden gone down as verified by scans?

This is why comparative studies with large numbers of people are needed before making these claims, rather than some individual just posting “hey I’m happy with this supplement and it worked for me …give it a try.”

[MrG68]

How much D3 is too much? You need to do blood work to get your level and alter your intake accordingly.

HOWEVER, I suggest to you that you consider not actually take it as a pill supplement and buy a sun lamp.

Your body will regulate it to what it needs to be. It will be introduced into your body the way its supposed to, and will go through the right biological processes. A D3 supplement won't.

I'd also consider taking K2 since calcium absorption will be significantly increased.

[j-o-h-n]

Ever try swallowing a whole lime instead.......(rind and all)?

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Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

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