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QoL - Part of the Plan? Hmmmm

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Hey gang,

Did a dental exam on a patient and she spoke of my being here 9 years on with #stageivpca and she said that it was all part of God's plan.

I replied that I'm gettin that sense that I'm being maneuvered and then Y'all know my lyrical brain came up with a song

"Part of the Plan"

youtu.be/V1imSzUwy9g?si=AFS...

And then it hit me that the artist Dan Fogelberg succumbed to PCa 💔

reuters.com/article/us-foge...

"Love when you can

Cry when you have to

Be who you must

That's a part of the plan

Await your arrival

With simple survival and

One day, we'll all understand

But his song ends with:

"There is no Eden or heavenly gates

That you're gonna make it to one day

But all of the answers you seek can be found

In the dreams that you dream on the way"

QoL on

Plan on

Sing On

Randy

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Kaliber profile image
Kaliber

wow man … heavy stuff my brother. Really kewl thoughts. You are the very definition of “ a man with song in his heart “ , if there ever was one yayahahahaya. Somehow it all seems to fit perfectly here with our band of croaking brothers ( my imho of course ). Love it all ..

❤️❤️❤️

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dockam in reply toKaliber

Yea, really heavy stuff

youtube.com/watch?v=6B224XD...

youtu.be/8cf3r_vPbhs?si=fHj...

Imma assume that the thought in my ole brain was Divine sourced

youtu.be/lpd4jzKA4SA?si=tEK...

QoL on

Faith on

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Kaliber in reply todockam

Henry Gibson … Laugh In … poet laureate

😁😁😁

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dockam in reply toKaliber

Verrrry interesting...youtube.com/watch?v=5wEjbWc...

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Kaliber in reply todockam

😂😂😂

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Scout4answers in reply toKaliber

“ a man with song in his heart “

You got a way with words Brother Kal

in reply toScout4answers

I liked his phrase, “band of croaking brothers” 🤣

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Kaliber in reply toScout4answers

Sorry, I missed this ( when posted ) somehow brother. I haven’t been my fluffy best lately …. I’m kinda hit and miss on everything.

❤️❤️❤️

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Scout4answers in reply toKaliber

Be Well Kal

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Kaliber in reply toScout4answers

Thank you buddy …. Try’in my best. I appreciate it.

💪❤️❤️

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MouseAddams

Did you think it might’ve been a sign from heaven that you were doing the plan all along?

youtu.be/GbVp6MquJX0?si=IXR...

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dockam in reply toMouseAddams

Oh definitely a YES, been saying that to pts more and more, there are no coincidences. And I have so many praying for me, even the Norbertine Nuns in the Monastery up here💙

Great song by Scorpions

youtu.be/iqu132vTl5Y?si=Gwm...

youtu.be/wvkzoqQ5Oak?si=EaR...

youtu.be/6Cs3Pvmmv0E?si=RXq...

QoL on

Prayers on

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MouseAddams in reply todockam

I trust you have the faith and the courage to do what you know is right.

youtu.be/BKR3vn9kKKA?featur...

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dockam in reply toMouseAddams

Brenda is my lil hiking Pal and she took me to see:

youtu.be/HOSmGMHs7ps?si=ham...

and she gave me Armor of God Medallion for protection

Armor of God
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dockam in reply toMouseAddams

We do hikes, and it's therapy for both of us. Last night she asked if she could feel my heart, I said sure, she just wanted to make sure that it was a strong heartbeat💙

Walking pals
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Kaliber in reply todockam

Hummmmmm …. ( lips zipped ) …. Yayahahahaya

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dockam in reply toKaliber

😁

She didn't cop a feel😜, she placed her hand on my shirt, under my hoodie, for like a minute until she was satisfied with the 💙beat.

Better than a DRE or MRI prostate biposy😘

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Kaliber in reply todockam

uh huh …. Yayahahahaya that’s a pretty lame explanation buster. We “ know “ what she was up to ….

Yayahahahaya yayahahahaya

Sorry I missed this post buddy…. I’ve haven’t been my fluffy best lately , been tied up with that and missed a lot.

❤️❤️❤️

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dockam in reply toKaliber

That was the most action that I've had in a year😁 I left a $20 in her mailbox😆

So sorry Bro that you're going thru some sh*t right now ☹️

Hope that it you're back to normal soon

Luv ya Bruddah Kal

Be Well

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Kaliber in reply todockam

love ya back buddy

❤️❤️❤️

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MouseAddams in reply todockam

youtu.be/lLGgRPdcvQU?featur...

Here’s your sign

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GSDF

You're absolutely right, you're part of the Plan... we actually all are... 🙏👍

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dockam in reply toGSDF

Yea, I really believe that we all are on that cosmic chessboard

Imma be the Black Knight😁

youtu.be/ZmInkxbvlCs?si=Uhy...

QoL on Brother

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Peealot

we’ll, you started a thread that took on its own life, Dockham. Great thread.

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dockam in reply toPeealot

Mahalo my Brother, and LoL, yea you're right, what started as a lil tale of a Song, the Artist, and then the Big Reveal with his passing from dreaded PCa :-( has grown wonderfully into a nostalgic tribute to the Awesome Storyteller Dan Fogelberg💙

Paul Harvey
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LongevityAT

We will all be knockin on heaven's door one day...

youtube.com/watch?v=O-sVpVI...

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dockam in reply toLongevityAT

youtu.be/3vtILjo26ew?si=bpP...

youtu.be/fXGIGIa-UNc?si=3FX...

QoL on

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maley2711

Thanks for the memories Randy...... remember him well during my years at U of Ill.......

After graduating from Woodruff High School in 1969, Fogelberg studied theater arts and painting at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. He began performing as a solo acoustic player at a local coffeehouse, "The Red Herring", which is where he made his first solo recordings as part of a folk festival in 1971.[5] He was discovered by Irving Azoff, who started his music management career promoting another Champaign-Urbana act, REO Speedwagon.

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dockam in reply tomaley2711

Oh, you're so very Welcome and Mahalo for the bio - that's awesome😂

I really dig this poignant song of Love Lost then a surprise reunion youtu.be/kmZ2VHSkVYY?si=n9H...

and Harry Chapin has "Taxi"

youtu.be/lm-gasyPEQw?si=r0i...

QoL on

Old Flame on

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carbide

👍 Thanks for posting.

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dockam in reply tocarbide

Oh, you're so Welcome and ya know My Pleasure just putting a lil story from the encounter and I love how it resonated here on HU and transformed into a very lovely distraction

QoL on

Sing On

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Scout4answers

Beautiful thoughts Randy

I bought Coco a keyboard for her birthday it came with a software teaching app which she embraced to the max. Her enthusiasm has motivated me to get my dusty old keyboard out and brush up on my skills. My plan is for us to make beautiful music together.

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dockam in reply toScout4answers

Mahalo Bruddah Scout and you two gonna have to record some QoLing for us Croakers

youtu.be/R8ifTS5NEsI?si=2ol...

"If you believe in magic, come along with me

We'll dance until morning 'til there's just you and me

And maybe if the music is right

I'll meet you tomorrow sorta late at night

And we'll go dancing baby, then you'll see

How the magic's in the music, and the music's in me"

QoL on

Keyboard On

Dance On

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Lightjunkie

Mahalo e ke kaikaina.

youtu.be/eVPozGbQ3v0?featur...

Thank you for sharing your JOY!

💛

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dockam in reply toLightjunkie

A'ole Pilikia, Aloha Ka Ko Bruddah LJ

youtu.be/qiQK_N5Gfog?si=TEg...

Mahalo nui loa

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Lightjunkie in reply todockam

Aloha Ka Ko Brother Dockam! A'ole Pilikia. Waimaka hauoli. Keep living pono.

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dockam in reply toLightjunkie

Malama pono Bruddah LJ, Aloha Aina

youtu.be/uDa0YmZD0Jk?si=EOr...

Hawaii no ka oi

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Vangogh1961

Netherlands will be played for me at the end. Saw him in concert in 1980. One of the best I've seen.

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dockam in reply toVangogh1961

Beautiful

youtu.be/ALMVPqtVZPY?si=FVt...

QoL on

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tunybgur

youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7...

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dockam in reply totunybgur

I dig it, this one too youtu.be/G2YBJGBSMjk?si=9uK...

QoL on

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tunybgur in reply todockam

Both powerful versions of Paul Simon's masterpiece.

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dockam in reply totunybgur

Ohhh the harmonies with this version 💙

youtu.be/gdVjVtpr55M?si=Qv9...

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MouseAddams in reply todockam

youtu.be/4O_BtRIkIQ4?si=gKh...

Try this version

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dockam in reply toMouseAddams

WOW Majestic!!💙

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MouseAddams in reply todockam

youtu.be/ndUCNnhH03Q?si=tvz...

No words need spoken

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dockam in reply toMouseAddams

Beautiful💙

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SeosamhM

I am a Dan Fogelberg fan, and I vividly remember when he announced his APCa status. I remember reading his open letter urging men to get their prostate checked at 50 - earlier if there was a family history. I am still able to find that letter. He wrote: "I promise you, you DON'T want to go through what I'm going through if you can avoid it..."

Those words have haunted me, but I was only 37 at the time. Little did I suspect that, 12 years later, I would be going through the same thing. I just turned 49 and was still a year away from "recommended" testing.

I will get more years than Dan. He died at the age I am now (56) less than 3 years in. I am going on 7+.

Hard to Say...😟

To paraphrase Dan:

Lucky at (life), well maybe so

There's still a lot of things you'll never know

Like why each time the sky begins to snow, you cry

Well, you cry

Ooh, you still have to cry...

youtube.com/watch?v=vAhzT_c...

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dockam in reply toSeosamhM

Such a Bittersweet memory and look us Croakers now reminiscing back to those halcyon days of youth. Congrats on 7+ my Brother💙

Raise a Glass to Dan Fogelberg - he became the Leader of the PCa Band

youtu.be/lDByv7HoAyg?si=FBo...

QoL on

Lead On

Cry on

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Hailwood

Beauty!

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dockam in reply toHailwood

Yes!! Life is Beautiful - Still here able to bask in wonderful music/lyrics like this lovely Love song

youtu.be/GxW8CuLs1sk?si=aU1...

QoL on

Love on

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Andy1569

Dan used ALL the Hooks! Musically and Lyrically, he was one of the best.

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dockam in reply toAndy1569

Yes, what a magnificent Artist💙

Not as popular a song but it's definitely a Fogelberg song

youtu.be/AhJc0T_NmQI?si=5aB...

QoL on

Play On

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j-o-h-n

youtube.com/watch?v=lTqI7Y7...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 11/10/2023 7:21 PM EST

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dockam in reply toj-o-h-n

youtu.be/I6_ivUkCHWY?si=I58...

QoL on

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garyjp9

I am constantly amazed by all the the music that you seem to have at your fingertips.

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dockam in reply togaryjp9

LoL, Mahalo Gary it's in the Windmills of my mind

youtu.be/Im_wGFQqY50?si=LN3...

and has to get to my Fingertips

youtu.be/aQRBzZCtD4o?si=c1V...

Then I Sing a Song😁

youtu.be/Eh1JJqfO_rA?si=rB8...

QoL on

Sing On

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maley2711 in reply todockam

Is your incredible memory for these songs just as incredible for every other area of interest you have? Must be nice !!!

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dockam in reply tomaley2711

Music/lyrics are well established in my brain, other stuff not as much 😜

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DesertDaisy

Love Dan Fogelberg. Play him often on Pandora.

Kay

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dockam in reply toDesertDaisy

Yes, what a musical talent he was and a wonderful storyteller

youtube.com/watch?v=cxQrjRw...

QoL on

Play on

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MouseAddams

youtu.be/PbayFodMRgE?si=jF2...

Sorry… 0 dark thirty. Hubby having a meltdown moment. Ah but it’s part of the process and it’s a sign of life.

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dockam in reply toMouseAddams

Oh Dear, all good now? 🙏💙

Yes, it is a Sign of Life

L' chaim - To LIFE

youtu.be/ZEWkZb11pss?si=L09...

Much Aloha and Love

Randy

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MouseAddams

Chew on this one—— Everything starts somewhere, though many physicists disagree. But people have always been dimly aware of the problem with the start of things. They wonder how the snowplough driver gets to work, or how the makers of dictionaries look up the spelling of words. (Terry Pratchett, story called Hogfather)

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dockam in reply toMouseAddams

I'd never heard of "Hogfather" until you brought it up and sounds like my kinda tale😁

youtu.be/aKb1NnhnTFg?si=Fo-...

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Seasid

I believe you didn't try a cure with radiation that is why you are still here with us. How your prostate cancer radiation is going? Did you have a PSMA pet scan recently? What is the SUV max now?

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dockam in reply toSeasid

Hi, had 28 IMRT sessions that ended in April and so far the PSA has responded well. It was rising 50% each month, hitting 34, but now it's at 2.9 💙

RO said to do a PSMA when the PSA climbs and hopefully that won't be til well into next year, maybe I'll get to my 10th Cancerversary on 10/13/2024 before more treatments are needed.

QoL on

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Seasid in reply todockam

I did a PSMA pet scan a year after radiation for sensitivity and now I am doing the prostate MRI for specificity and on Friday the super specialist will compare the PSMA pet scan and the mpMRI of my prostate to diagnose recurrence and if I need new radiation of the prostate.

link.springer.com/article/1...

See the above study for more information.

Regards

István

PS. : hope we stay in touch about the results. Our member Brysonal also had a PSMA pet scan and a visible PSMA avid lesion in his heavily radiated prostate. The biopsy is not recommended or even possible (see the study).

My RO believe that there should not be a cancer even if the prostate lit up on the PSMA pet scan. My prostate SUV max value was 6.5. before radiation it was 14.

I am just wandering if it is recurrence or not? My PSA rapidly rising and want to know if it is because of the recurrence in my prostate or because of micromets.

If the cancer is still in the prostate than I have to irradiate it again, or if it is because of micromets elsewhere in my body than I should start Nubeqa as a system treatment.

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