I just want to mention Broccoli is good at prevention and also for prostate cancer patience but I recently found out that Broccoli Sprouts has more Sulforaphane benefits: How broccoli sprouts may help reduce your cancer risk. Sulforaphane is a powerful phytochemical that fights all cancers , Broccoli Sprouts have a 100 times more Sulforaphane then regular Broccoli. I think by doing all the western medicines does work but to use high nutrient foods as part of the cancer battle. Please do the research on this vegetable. I eat Broccoli Sprouts in my salads and sometimes as a side dish for my dinner with avocados and tomatoes, which are all great for nutrients.
yes, taking into account both the soaking time (12 hours) and sprouting time (3 days), allow for a total of about 3 1/2 – 5 days days to grow and harvest your broccoli sprouts. Always wash them real good, I even us ACV and water,mix in a bowl and let them stand for 10 min. so there is no bacteria ,then rinse, ACV is great to stop pathogens from entering the digestive system. there is alot of information how to grow them and how to eat them. Here is one link to check out but I say look at other information about them to get a better understanding.
I truly appreciate this!.... I love broccoli sprouts and am very aware of their nutrition benefits, but as said, always had difficulty finding them.... 8 will begin farming! 🤗
Thank you Bob603 ,I see Broccoli sprouts at walmarts, in the vegetable area, I will also get the supplement, If there is a way to keep me in remission and not have to do radiation again, I think its great to find ways to defeat cancer cells. I also read that Broccoli Sprouts have a lot of Vit. C and Vit A also good for the body, I also eat sliced cook tomatoes because it has lycopene great to fight prostate C. it is true we all have our ways of fighting prostateC, I did the Lupron one time shot and knew it was not for me, I couldn't handle the side effects, But like I say we are all different, a friend of mine did the Lupron for 3 years and he did have side effects but not like me,and he is in remission, so I don't put it down. just we are all built different ,
Yes! I have some sprouting on the counter right now. My dad is the one with prostate cancer but I learned about Sulforaphane from this forum when he was diagnosed and started sprouting my own. Enjoy the taste and who knows maybe it’ll help me avoid the family PCa curse sometime down the line. Going to try to get him set up when I next visit.
I usually spray down sprout jars with star san sanitizer left over from my brewing days, then wash seeds and soak in hydrogen peroxide for 10-15 min or so. Rinse clean and soak for 4-8 hours, then drain and rinse twice a day for four days. Yum!
I feel its not magical and it not just a cure, I don't claim to be cured but in remission, and I have been in remisson for over 5 yrs and I know if cancer comes back after remission it can come with a vengeance. Cancer cells have been described as immortal because, unlike normal cells, they don't age or die easy, but instead can continue to multiply without end. so I believe it is a battle field and we have pull all stops we can do on our own and also use western medicine what ever protocol is used. Ashipong discribed it right. I don't want disagree with anybody here, I just want to pass along information that might help or work, there is no guarantee when it comes to fighting Pcancer, I still have nervous feelings when I get my PSA and praying it is still at the same point that it was last time. Thank you GI448 for your comments so I could let everyone that has read my posting about my dealings with Pcancer, its up to each individual here to follow there path of dealing PCancer
my husbands cancer came back, but very slowly over 5 years, PSA from 0 to 0.7. . I am NOT saying that Broccoli stops the cancer, but it is fighting the cancer cells. Maybe the rezidiv grew so slowly because of the broccoli and tumeric, who knows.
I discourage desperation driving decisions. Too many here willing to chase every little "it might help" food or supplement suggestion. Often with no proven benefit and extra expenses. Granted sprouting broccoli can't be a harm if you're interested in growing your own, but it's a disappointing aspect of this site.
I’ve got a friend that smokes 20 a day and drinks on most. He couldn’t care less. He doesn’t have prostate cancer. Actually he’s annoyingly as fit as a fiddle. Maybe smoking and drinking is protective eh?
I have seen where they are studying individuals like this who have highly protected DNA from environmental damage. They seem to think the key to all illness is to slow the ageing process, so that we live a maximum length life about 100 or more, but live it healthy until right at the end. These individuals hold the key for the rest of us. They are effectively superhuman. I believe it will be possible to be injected for longevity with a DNA protective shot or shots within 100 years maximum. But the research and drugs need mainstream funding as our current medical system is largely built around and rewards drug companies only for treating a recognised (likely life threatening, acquired with just age realistically the cause) illness, age is not recognized as an illness.
care very little about sprouts. Wondering where the real info is on the cause of the disease. I have to believe there is good evidence what the causes are. Like a few books on that one.
I’ve learned coming to this site you never down play or question the foodies as well those who run or lift dumb bells. But if you would like to be part of a group that wants to discuss Ivermectin you will be banned or the post removed. We all know the importance of food as well exercise in our lives but we who question the validity of foods and heart rate to prevent or cure cancer we will be corrected in our thoughts and questions.
like you I’ve eaten broccoli all my life, usually a couple of times a week. Also drink red wine almost daily, consume garlic and olive oil daily, tomatoes and watermelon and been drinking organic pomegranate juice daily for the past ten years. Yeah I got it too
Yep, garlic, high quality olive oil, red wine, blueberries, kale, broccoli, lean proteins, fermented foods (kimchi, sauerkraut, kefir, etc) spinach all my life.
It’s why I’m so skeptical of these food posts. Further down the thread someone posted a link to a thread that has me thinking there might be something to Sulforaphane intake. Maybe…
Brokkoli is part of my daily food. Where I live I can’t buy brokkoli sprouts and I failed growing my own. So I take supplement and hope that this contributes, too.
I feel taking supplements of broccoli sprouts can only help, I even will start taking them as part of my total protocol too. I also wanted to mention that is great to slow down and even may help stop the cancer is Intermittent Fasting, I try to stop eating at 10 pm and don' t eat my breakfast till noon which gives me aprox. 14 hrs with out food, I say do the research to learn about it.
I also trust, that time restricted eating supports our healing process. I do 18:6 mainly. My eating window is from 12 - 6pm. Sometimes I do 16:8 to making it more family & friends friendly.
You know those punnets you buy in the supermarket? I eat about half of one of those a day. For me, its not a religious sacrament or anything, more like I add them to other foods. Depends on how much I decide to make.
If you freeze them, it’s breaks them down and you get more out of them. But they don’t taste as nice. Good for smoothies though.
I am taking (when my husband reminds me) broccoli sprout extract. this is a much more concentrated form. does anyone know if that has the same ingredients. i would love to do some sprouting myself because i like sprouts but it dos require more attention than we some times manage. m hubby does the cooking because i do all the building repair and provide most of the income. his refrigerator management is truly something. and it is more effort to remind him to do something than to just do it myself. that is the reason for the extract.
all I do is have a quart jar, my sprout holder came with two. I keep them in our one bathroom that has no window. I keep it covered with a bathroom hand towel. After the first soaking of 8 hours, Overnite, I empty the water and cover. Until done, about 5 days later, I rinse in the am and again in the pm. It really doesn’t involve that much
we have a sprouting kit with appropriate jars and if i dig into the vast supply of seeds that came with it will probably find broccoli. problem is that i am overwhelmed with things to do with my limited energy and the hubby does not follow through. he buys everything and maybe uses it once. Yoghurt anyone. He made one bad batch
yes, broccoli sprouts are known for fighting prostate and breast cancer. In the Heidelberg clinic, patients receive this along with chemo, because they found out that patients recover more quick. It is also known that the broccoli sprouts fight not only cancer cells but also kill the cancer germ were cancer grows from. My husband takes capsules which we order from Amazon, in Heidelberg they use also capsules. I also like to mention that Tumeric is known for fighting cancer, a glas of milk with a half teaspoon of tumeric in the evening is recommended, it can be any kind of milk. This is very common in India.
so you are using extracts? that is what we have. is it as good as or better than the sprouts themselves? i know nothing about the chemistry of broccoli sprouts. is the active ingredient something that survives extraction etc?
I don’t know if it is as good, but that’s what the clinic uses. Here are some links to this subject
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A thirty year old article about another researcher chasing the cancer “Silver Bullet” in fruits and vegetables. No validated proof; not even trying to isolate the compound. It was shown, in one old study to increase the lifespan of worms. He never claims irmentions a “cancer germ” as the cause of cancers. He states that the worm study gives him hope. Doesn’t really qualify for a Nobel Prize.
There was a woman in the late nineties who burst on the online cancer scene at the time promoting (very eloquently, btw) eating Watermelon as the manic bullet. Many desperate people are tons of it, only to get diarrhea instead of remission.
Coffee enemas were all the rage after that, and whole family savings were lost by desperate patients going to Mexico to get their colons flooded with coffee.
A balanced diet, with lots of fruits and vegetables is a wise way to eat for anyone, sick or not.
No one has found the direct cause of cancers, nor a “Silver Bullet” for cancers. We do have some really good allopathic treatments for some cancers; can retard the growth of some for a period of time. That’s where we are today.
okay, I don’t know how to say this, but in the speech I heard from a professor in Heidelberg, she was referring to the earliest stage of cancer, bevor the cell becomes a cancer cell. I don’t know if there is a name for it, sorry, I am a second language participant here.
I’ve made my own for a couple years. I put some in his daily plant based smoothie as the action of the blender releases more nutrients. I get a new batch about every 5 days. I also add chia seed, flaxseed, parsley, spinach, white mushroom powder and mixed mushroom powder, Frozen mixed red and blue frozen berries mixed with cherries and tart cherry. He has Chaga mushroom drops in his coffee.
My husband eats broccoli regularly but avoids the sprouts. We have tried to avoid anything that could set his treatment back. Broccoli and other sprouts need humid conditions to germinate. Unfortunately, so do bacteria like Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria monocytogenes. This means sprouts can become contaminated, and if you eat them, you can get food poisoning with symptoms like fever, diarrhea, and stomach cramps. Eat with caution.
I am sure that diet and lifestyle has an impact on getting PCa and to a lesser degree helping treatment work when we have PCa. However lifestyle is complex and multifaceted not to mention the research ground is constantly shifting with specific foods.
I think it’s good to feel we have some personal control over what is just random bad luck. That in itself is helpful but having during my working life as a psychologist working with chronic illness and disability I am only too aware that for many (if not most) it can create a sense of self blame and event guilt and worry that we didn’t eat right or live right and now we are partly to blame for our bad luck. PCa aside I have been a huge critic of pushing too much responsibility onto patients when they are not equipped or in an economic or social position to manage it. And with most major illnesses the impact is marginal.
I do follow a Mediterranean diet as my wife is from that background and I have never smoked, drunk much or been a big meat eater - I hate fast food and rarely ever eat processed foods. No one in my family has had PCa I have never been over weight but I am not active as I am a disabled person all my life - and a part-time wheelchair user the last 10 years / so yes that’s a risk factor but I am not in control of that. So yes I have slightly improved some marginal diet but apart from going full vegan or vegetarian I can’t really do that much more.
So yes it’s good to try and live a more healthy lifestyle but I can’t help feeling that diet is a marginal issue unless you have a really bad diet/lifestyle- then given the cardio risks and metabolic syndrome risks of mortality it maybe will have a positive impact in OS.
Sorry for that — I guess I needed to get if off my chest and it’s a bit of a professional long term issue I have had with patients lived experience of health advice with their conditions.
You know you can buy those meatballs at Ikea frozen and have them at home? They come in a bag, frozen and taste just as good as the store when you heat them up. We found the gravy mix too. I made some mashed potatotes and broccoli we had Ikea at home. It was great!
if you are interested in growing micro broccoli sprouts check out the YouTube channel Homegrown Passion. I have been growing them for moths now. Very easy and love them on sandwiches, pasta, everything.
I buy my sprouts at Whole Foods , rinse well and add to my daily fruit smoothie , blueberries , rasberries , blackberries , fresh mint ,pinach ,kale ,mango a table spoon of fresh ground almonds I keep all frozen except almonds then add 1 cup of water to my Blend Jet blender and there is breakfast .
Here is the study on the component that produces this benefit. BUT you have to take the 'stablized' version of Sulforaphane. There is only one labortatory in the world right now that provides this; its in France. I have taken this supplement now for 2 1/2 years. It killls PCa cells. Now we know it also nearly doubles the BCR doubling time. I think this works and its proven in studies. A lot of this stuff is not. TNX
The first post in this entire thread to actually lead this old horse to the Sulforaphane water and make me consider adding broccoli sprouts. Thanks.
I did read one article that suggested supplements that refine out other compounds from broccoli might actually not be the best idea. That’s an issue with many supplements.
Have you actually noticed measurable results from this. I think it would be almost impossible to tell since you’re a sample of one, and not in a controlled study, but curious if you saw changes in PSA doubling from before you started the supplement, and if you’re sure it’s not from other changes in treatment.
Yes thank you Lrv4421 , I eat all those except watercress, I remember when I was young I ate alot of bad foods not thinking about the future and realizing that it is a life long protocol to stay healthy , even my mother said " eat your vegetables" not knowing how important it is to eat foods with nutrients then eating food in a box or package with a lot of preservatives, Thank you again and Blessings
yes, I think you are right Lrv44221, I believe a positive attitude is so important and to believe in ourselves to find the right diet protocol that will work, I am not trying to sell anything, I am a Christian who believes in serving , I remember when my urologists' did the biopsy on my prostate and said my cancer was the high risk but I did get it early and the cancer never left my prostate, I felt so alone because I was the only one in my family that got it and I was pretty sure I wouldn't make it, and I found HealthUnlocked which gave me a lot of inspiration to try to beat this cancer, and I am only trying to pay it forward as my gratitude to all the information I have received here from all the great men that are only trying to do the same, survive and have some kind of quality of life.
Hey Lrv44221, you love to help out with food suggestions because you say you beat your cancer just by diet and juicing.
It would help us all if we knew what kind of cancer (and stage it was) you had to help us to evaluate the legitimacy of that claim in relation to our advanced prostate cancers.
Thank you for your opinion. I think you will find the broken record of questions on this site is mostly broken because of new people come in. That’s okay with me as if someone were to ask about ivermectin. The question police are here and that’s okay. But to limit a question and any question isn’t okay with me. If I can’t ask ANY question or others we must move on away from the status quo’s of this site. Questions pertaining to medical that is. Very inappropriate to ask about how to change one’s oil. But P medical should be able to ask questions even if it’s a broken record. 30k questions on PSA is absolutely fine with me as any chemical questions.
Something to add to cooked broccoli to make the sulphoraphane more bioavailable is ground brown mustard seed. Mustard seed has the enzyme myrosinase that releases the sulphoraphane. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/298...
See, The story goes.... I'm getting hard of hearing (deaf as they say). So I was sitting in our living room and my wife was in the Kitchen when she yelled out to me "Wanna play pickle ball"..... I though she said she wanted to tickle my balls. I responded, "of course dear while I still have them". She said "what the hell am I talking about?" Well one word let to another and so I though it was a good idea to post again"....
Hmmm decisions, decisions..... When it comes to ice cream I hate making frappe decisions.
Thanks for asking bout me....I could be better - like in the Bahamas sitting on the beach while the boss is in the hotel room watching 3 Stooges reruns.....
Seriously! I have had four eye surgeries (Thank you, Agent Orange and Diabetes!). Each surgery was performed at the Mass Eye and Ear Hospital. Opthamologist and Surgeons were next door in the Joslin Diabetes Clinic. Each time was billed several hundred dollars for a “Facility Fee”!
Thank you!!! I'm as fiddle as a fit.... Well I hope you're doing well. I got a new bunch of writers, picked them out of the southern border illegals. Now all I have to do is teach them English. They already know a couple of words. "Social Security" and "I hate the United States of America"..They taught me four words "Mucho Trabajo, Poco Dinero".
Thank you sir..... Shortly after I gave up posting..... my wife spoke to my shrink regarding my going around in circles and mumbling to myself. My wife told me the shrink though it would be beneficial to have them put me in an induced coma for six months. My wife asked me what I thought of that idea.... I told her "let me sleep on that".....
kind of like us after you left. “going around in circles and mumbling to ourselves” My only recourse was watching Rodney Dangerfield and WC Fields flashback episodes.
Words cant express the pleasure in seeing you here.
When I first joined the forum I thought you were a moderator of some sort.
You could alway put the final word in to neutralize a post like this that has sillily dissected simple broccoli sprouts with 87 replies with your simple "2 scoops chocolate ice cream".
Thank you for acknowledging there is no cure in those suggestions. There are a couple of “wives” of PCa patients posting here claiming they’ve cured cancer through diet and juicing alone.
Not sure if they’re just selling false hope or have a more cynical hidden agenda.
One said in here a couple of days ago that she herself had cancer and was told she’d die if she didn’t have surgery and chemo. She claims to have refused those treatments and instead opted to juice, and paint artwork to feel good
Now she claims 18 years later she is cancer free from that regimen.
It’s dangerous BS. She’s been making claims for months.
yes very easy to do yourself. The idea is to prepare a new one everyday so you always will have them ready to eat. Very quick and easy . Here’s an easy video how to do it . Just going to send to my friend who is fighting cancer . youtu.be/27HFVfDSSbk
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