This is just a question regarding pre diafnosis sleep lifestyle habits?
Im a night owl and get by with little sleep.
I heard this could have link to prostate cancer.
Who else better to know than people with prostate cancer.
Then could there also be a link to meletonin?
Just thinking out loud
I had a pretty constant sleep pattern before Dx (and still do). Go to bed around 10 pm, up around 6 am. I take melatonin - 5 mg/night.
my sleep habits are the same after DX and 4 years of treatments. I sleep on a APAP machine ( have for 20+ years ), so my sleep quality is monitored in detail. I sleep with a AHI of .8 or so ( like a baby ) before and after cancer DX. My sleep is 6 hours at night with daytime naps due to exhaustion and tiredness caused by ADT. I take 10mg melatonin before bedtime every night.
I go to bed around 11Pm & sleep soundly untill 6 AM & take 20mg Melatonin every second or third day because it makes me have daily naps, which may be ok for some.
A sound sleep is important to reduce stress I believe & Melatonin certainly helps.
As a consequence of treatments I sleep for 90 minutes to 2 hours at a time max. Overactive bladder for which I’ve tried every conceivable solution.
Fortunately I go back to sleep pretty easily (repeatedly) most nights.
Waking up almost every night but normally fell asleep quickly again. I take 10 mg Melatonin at bed time which is between 22.15 - 23.00 pm. Wake up between 6 - 7.30 am. I believe in good sleep to give my body enough time to regenerate and repair. I also adopted my eating habit. I’m on time restricted eating, only eat between 12.00 - 1.00 and 6.00 - 7.00 pm.
I am trying to improve my sleep by reducing the light in my bedroom. Scientific studies show that dim light during sleep can increase obesity and cancer in mice. See this article, which says dim light at night sleep increases diabetes, obesity and hypertension.
cnn.com/2022/06/22/health/l...
I also use plugin nightlights and use room lights sparingly during trips to the bathroom, and I close my bedroom door while sleeping. I also have no television or computer monitor in my bedroom. After doing this for a month I began to have more frequent vivid dreams, which I take as evidence of deeper sleep, although I admit the dreams do at times scare me to awaken.
I cannot say much about deep sleep and advanced prostate cancer, except that my PSA has been consistent at <0.1 and metastases seem to be reduced, . Weight loss seems impossible. I don't have diabetes. This experiment has not clearly benefitted me in any obvious way other than the vivid dreams, but I do believe that deeper sleep helps the body's immunity..
P.S. My blood glucose levels have come down consistently to barely normal from above normal, and blood pressure has come down slightly during the past few months of the experiment. I cannot say these are improvements due to less dim light while sleeping. The blood glucose has to do with timing of blood tests. Reduced blood pressure is not very significantly lower, but I believe it is caused by my medicatiions.. I do take a betablocker which keeps my heart rate down.
Also:
nih.gov/news-events/nih-res...
This is a well written response about sleeping.
Yes, I too, have researched light at night and how it affects sleep.
The one other thing I find helpful, whether or not it is advocated for PC and sleep issues, is Not using a computer, phone or tv a couple hours before you want to sleep.
In health, 🌹🦋
agreed. Nice dark room, no distractions really seem help.
I have prostate cancer and sleep fine most of the time. Someone told me to take 30mg melatonin for Covid and it did not make me sleep any more. YMMV.
I have never needed a lot of sleep - no more than 5 to 6 hours/night. Since I've had an enlarged prostate and PCa, I now am lucky to sleep for more than 1 hour at a time before needing to do a pee. I generally get back to sleep reasonably quickly but sometimes end up lying awake for a couple hours getting up to pee once or twice again during that time. I'm usually up by 7am and estimate I get 4 to 5 hours sleep max most nights, but I seem to be functioning OK on this. I do sometimes have an afternoon nap for an hour or so if particularly tired.
my father who has been recently diagnosed at 65 years old has slept only 4 hours a night since he was 20 years old. He’s in a super deep sleep for 4 hours a day and then he’s up and about. Doesn’t force it.. it’s just when his body says “I’ve had enough sleep”
can I ask what diagnosis he had?
226PSA. Bone scan and CT scan complete. These scans supposedly ruled out bone Mets and organ spread. Some lymph nodes just outside prostate are swollen tho so possible spread to those
Biopsy Nov 3rd with discussion appointment Nov 23rd. So I am super scared this wait will cause further spread. I’m terrified but hanging in there to see what the full diagnosis is and I just pray to god that it will all work out
ive done a bit of reading and wonder if poor sleep pattern, modern living stimulations are having effect on prostate....
like a battery that gets worn out, over worked, not conditioned, charged regulary (this is just my analogy)
there is sort of a few posts aricles that point to poor melatonin release in people with rubish sleep health....
meleton tablets help with sleep, but I've seen little snippets of info that meletonin does something posite toward prostate cancer cells???
no real facts but little wisps of theoretical smoke....
Diet and Exercise Presentation at UCSF
The "supper-sleep interval".
Soy consumption and prostate cancer
Synergy of Metformin and Statins for improved OS in APC
Can someone have PC not show up in prostate gland on CT scan (get microsized) just with ADT (or orchietomy)?
