A comment stood out for me that many may already be aware of but worth highlighting anyway:
... an analysis of the ARCHES study found that many patients receiving enzalutamide had radiographic progression despite not showing PSA progression, a finding he noted that could be applied to any AR therapy. “We’re all used to lying back and not doing imaging very often when you see that PSA [level] go down. But we saw that approximately one-third of patients with imaging showing progression at soft tissue or new bone metastasis didn’t have any rise in PSA [level] at all, and that’s kind of a scary thought".
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I have N1 disease but no scans since my surgery 9/20. My PSA went to undetectable after starting ADT/Abi/Pred in 11/20. My MO just tracks PSA, not even testosterone. Should I be asking for a scan? (I expect he would answer "it won't show anything because you have an undetectable PSA.")
People should have a look at the 2022 PCRI Mid-Year update. There are two rather long and informative videos available, but the one that is significant to this discussion is Dr. Kwon’s presentation on Day 1 and his insistence that regular imaging should be done to assess disease progress regardless of PSA levels. This does not seem to be standard practice for most oncologists. This may be an area where patient self-advocacy is critical.
"Dr. Armstrong concluded his presentation discussing a post hoc analysis of ARCHES assessing radiographic progression in the absence of PSA progression in patients with mHSPC with the following take-home messages:
In this post hoc analysis of ARCHES, there was frequent discordance between radiographic progression and PSA progression by PCWG2 criteria or any PSA rise over nadir in patients with mHSPC treated with enzalutamide + ADT
Survival outcomes remain worse for patients with radiographic progression (with or without PSA progression) compared with outcomes of non-progressors
Regular imaging is recommended to detect radiographic progression among patients treated with potent androgen receptor pathway inhibitors, such as enzalutamide + ADT, as serial PSA monitoring alone may not be sufficient to detect radiographic progression in many patients"
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