Testosterone injections for prostate cancer

[lewicki]

It seems there is two ways this is being done. One is testosterone only, no adt and one way testosterone is the shot all by itself.

I have two doctors willing to give me the T but there is no discussion of doing BAT.

BAT is ADT alternating with testosterone.

Today I visit the OC willing to do this. Presently I am not doing any ADT for 18 months and PSA is<0.04 and T is still <10.

Seeking the t to feel better at the age of 81.

My MD who is very positive about doing this has helped six men with this.

Of course I can just do nothing at this time instead taking huge risk of awakening the decease. An Auxumin and a PSMA scans do show some uptake in the prostate.

Fence walking. Red blood cell count refuses to return to normal count.

My fears are if I do the T and the demon returns will I be able to control it.

Seeking responses to help in my decision.

[ARIES29]

Hi lewicki, My MO advised me not to take T supplements for any reason. I have been without ADT now for 3 or 4 months & wanted to get into gym routine again.So I am not game? enough to risk it. That is only my experience.

[MamawV]

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[MateoBeach]

First step would be to just try it for a month and see how much better you may feel. Probably very much better in multiple ways! Then assess how your PSA responds. If it goes up just moderately, say no higher than 0.1-0.2, then that is expected and not worrisome. BAT trials show that if you stop it and let T levels drop back down, that is considered a favorable response. If PSA continues to rise on testosterone (given in Supra physiologic doses, such as 400mg of T-cypionate every two weeks or similar with testosterone topical gel), then that is an unfavorable response and you should stop the experiment and bring T levels back to castrate and PSA will follow it down. Some here on this site with APC are doing well on continuous SPT. Others, including myself are cycling or alternating periods of SPT with periods off and adding some ADT such as Orgovyx during the off periods. It is a modified (longer cycling) variation of BAT using adaptive therapy principles. High T cycles vary from one to three months. And castrate parts of the cycle may also be between one and three months. Careful monitoring of T levels and PSA are required to assess and adjust. I am currently using 10 to 12 weeks on SPT then one month at castrate. Note that the half life of T-cypionate is 8 days, so it can take 4 to6 weeks to be cleared out, and ADT makes no difference during this time. One solution is to use androgel or equivalent topically which has just a 1-2 day half-life. I do this now for my last month before starting castrate ADT cycle.

[lewicki]

Thank you.

[lowT163]

you had a psma pet at .04 and it showed cancer?

[lewicki in reply to lowT163]

Yes. I had four treatments of LU-177 and AC-225 at the university of Heidelberg in 2020 and 2019. Seems it did not kill all but the doctors think the cancer has gone to a dormant state.

Now I am 25 months with the low PSA and not on any ADT. Hoping the demon does not come back . At 81 years old it may not as one doctor thinks. But what do they know.