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Don't know what this mean. Can it be true? PSA drop with no treatment in 3 months at least?

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I have had a bad few weeks....low hemoglobin caused multiple small heart attacks....after a week in the hospital I have felt terrible.

Today I got a notice (photo graph) about a new test result in. It was my PSA. It says it is 50.000. (FIFTY). Just appx ten days before this my PSA was almost 1200.00.

I have no idea what to think ....it sounds like a miracle. I'm still alive. I am to see a brain radiologist tomorrow to begin radiation of my brain where cancer has shown up. I'm confused how this could be true. Confused but Happy ......

gJohn

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PGDuan

Hi John, I have no idea what to make of it - others here probably know more - but I hope you are feeling well enough and can enjoy the potential good news? Maybe ask for another test for some confirmation?

Your PSA number is accurate. Remember one thing John, we all LOVE YOU !!!!!!

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greatjohn in reply to

how kind. Tall Allen could be right. Life is interesting.

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Tall_Allen

Don't read too much into it. PSA fluctuates. And as the cancer advances it can express less PSA sometimes. Go by the scans.

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hadleycash in reply to Tall_Allen

Could the cancer that produced the 1,200 psa morph into neuroendocrine cancer in three months? Yes, the scans will tell. A liquid biopsy could be good if one hasn't been done recently. It would beat waiting for new scans as it's pretty quick results.

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Tall_Allen in reply to hadleycash

Who said anything about neuroendocrine cancer?

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hadleycash in reply to Tall_Allen

What ways does pc advance and lose psa expression?

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Tall_Allen in reply to hadleycash

It can be part of natural progression. Gleason pattern 5, for example, expresses less PSA/volume of cancer than pattern 4. New metastases can eventually lose PSA expression if they become less differentiated/ gain lineage plasticity. Usually cancer that has PSA over 1,000 doesn't lose PSA expression - it is the low PSA subtypes (originally diagnosed with low PSA) that more often do.

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Lasered

Been worried about you! 🙏 the positive trend continues!

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Magnus1964

I had the same happen to me. I have not been on any treatment for 9 months and my PSA dropped from 73 to 47. My research doctor had no explanation.

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Polster in reply to Magnus1964

Hi, I had the same , came off Zytiga about 6weeks PSA dropped 46 to 16 . No reason identified. Crawled back up slowly…….😐

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LowT

Repeat the test

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Don_1213

As TA said - go by the scans. PSA is a crude monitor for actual cancer progression. As cancer increases in Gleason scale - it tends to emit less PSA - other cell types are taking over.

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SeosamhM

Impossible to glean anything. My suggestion? Just be the Great John we love! I'm just glad to see you post...have a Happy Holidays! - Joe M.

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ocman

Hey brother, wishing you the best...

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Justfor_

The probability that you got any integer number in an ultrasensitive test is of the order of a tripetision on the roulette table (tree consecutive appearances of the same number). It can happen but nobody bets chasing this.

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Lousab

I am sorry to hear you had a rough time these last few weeks. I sincerely hope the drop in psa will contribute to making you feel better. Keep the hope and your wonderful outlook on life. ❤️❤️❤️

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Aodh

Great to hear from U. Best wishes for your meeting with the radiologist

Hugh

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treedown

I hope it means something good, either way I am glad your doing welll enough to discuss.

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Aussieguy1

I’m just glad your alive whatever the reading is, I hope your enjoying being alive and that your quality of life is out numbering any other issue thrown your way.

I’m sorry to hear that you have now been experiencing small heart attacks, or heart attacks of any kind actually.

It’s great to see that you are happy about the PSA number, may your happiness continue and may your treatment for the brain tumours go well. I love your optimism and your courage, you bring enlightenment to my soul.

I’ve been looking out for a post from you and admit I was getting a little concerned for your well-being thanks for brightening my day, even though your going through such a rough time of it. I’m sure you bring your optimism and courage to all of us when your share your posts.

Look after yourself. May you and your husband and family have a very special holiday season.

Ian

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Sisira

What else, it's a MIRACLE ! I mean, not the PSA but yourself. I think it is better not to bother about any interpretation on PCa at this time. If a qualified medical specialist agrees to do some tests and give you some treatment either to retard the progression of your cancer or minimise the pains and the other damages caused by the cancer, by all means you may try it. Your courage is marvellous. You are special and we love you 💕.

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Gearhead

I hope this is in fact good news cancer wise, your hemoglobin and cardiac issues are behind you, and we'll again be seeing photos of your cooking with your posts.

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MMK-XFuture

All I can say is get the best of what you have. Life can be a roller coaster ride at times, other times a bench at the carousel ride. Hang in there. We're rooting for you, GreatJohn.

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Schwah

Great to hear from you. I wonder if it’s a late reaction to the LU177 or whatever that treatment was your I did that you thought went so badly.

Schwah

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Haniff

Stay strong my friend. The love of God works in mysterious ways. Glow in his care and love ❤️

My very best to you for the coming days. Do partake in the Season’s cheer and mirth and a Wonderful Christmas to you and loved ones.

Haniff

Thank you for posting GJ! Made my day

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spw1

Great to hear that PSA is down by such a large number. May things get better for you.

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larry_dammit

John. Hang in there buddy, seems like there is always something in the tests to get us up or down 😖. 🙏🙏🙏

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raoulmaher

Hi John - I am pleased for you and hope it is something good and unexpected that has happened kindest Raoul

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Newyork6264

I hope the reduction in PSA is real and hope you start to feel better. I'm glad to see the post was worried about you.

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Sherpa111

Hi John! You’re an inspiration and a great man. Admittedly I was quite happy to read a post from you. I love reading your cancer battle stories, looking at your amazing meals, and just listening to the love you have for life. All of this has inspired me and given me courage through my own personal battle. Much love and respect, John.

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16starsky

Ohh John, lovely to hear from you.I've been worried since learning of your heart attacks .Great news about your PSA. Glad you are feeling better.Wishing you and your Hubbie (and Sparky) a lovely Christmas and a peaceful and hopeful New year !

As someone else wrote earlier, we love you John, keep strong as always.

Sending love from the UK.

Kim x

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Cooolone

PSA is a terrible prognosticator for advanced patients as alone, it is unreliable... Not too much of a hook to hang a hat on :(

But... If it's low, it low!!! Which is awesome by itself, lol... :)

Good Luck and Always, Best Regards!

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dadzone43

Happy news. I think we all celebrate this with you

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GraceKelly2014

John, I’m so sorry you have not been feeling well. Please take this time and hug your husband and pup and try and enjoy the Holidays!! My continued prayers….

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Karirudy

So sorry you've had a rough time of it. It's good to hear from you. I don't often say anything but I appreciate your lovely posts. My Husband is in the middle of docetoxyl treatments (5 of 6 on the 30th). It's not quite as side effect free as we had hoped but he has good days still and that's what we appreciate. I pray you have the same and can experience God's love this holiday season.

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Fightinghard

Hang in there John. We know it has been tough last couple months. Wishing you the best and maybe a Christmas miracle .

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Fanger1

Glad you're back home and posting. Time to crack grab for the holidays. Stay strong and feel better now😸

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Hailwood

Really happy to see that but very sad by the "small" heart attacks. My goodness you are such a trooper. Enjoy every little bit of good news

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SuppWife

Another board-member happy to hear from you, John! You're an inspiration and I always look for your posts. Lots of love and good wishes to you :)

🙏👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Faith1111

Great to hear from you GJ. I don’t care what anybody says because no one really knows what’s going on with your PSA. I would be thrilled with it. It indeed could be a miracle. Get your radiation and let’s pray that things continue to improve. God indeed works in mysterious ways. Faith not fear. Hope you have a peaceful and happy Christmas.

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Costarica1961

That flag of h or high is a understatement. I hear once my PSA goes into the stratosfere, its not that big of a factor. At 50k the focus needs to shift to the scans or how you feel as being the important factor. All the best through the holidays

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HopingForTheBest1 in reply to Costarica1961

I believe you are reading his PSA # incorrectly. It is 50 with 3 decimal places, not 50 thousand.

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Costarica1961 in reply to HopingForTheBest1

50 k, means 50 thousand. The highest psa i have ever heard of nonetheless.

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Hope59

Thinking of you and hoping your radiation goes well. Hang in there!

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Nous

really good to hear from you Great John ... always wishing the very best for you ... Nous :)

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Psa73

Good to hear from you G J. Hope all is going good for you now. Nice to maybe have good numbers. You all have a great Holiday, and a Happy New Year.

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Channelhomec

Wishing you the best will keep you in prayer

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Vindog29

I truly believe you have more lives to touch,more arms that need to embrace you,more lessons to learn, more spirits to raise up. Keep believing in miracles, keep smiling at small rebounds, we who love you from afar will keep praying and waiting for your words.

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j-o-h-n

Hello John.... I know the two words you blurted out when you heard those numbers were "Holy Shit"...... Now please stay confused and happy....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 12/20/2021 7:28 PM EST

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Rilu

I'm very very great to hear from you!! 😃 Keep the faith!!! 🙏💪😘😘

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Spyder54

Hang in there GJ, you are in the heat of the battle. You still have ammo, the enemy is coming at you from many angles. You are doing the best you can, and thats all you can do. Others, not as strong, would have given in long ago. You have strong desire for life.All my best to you and yours,

Mike

😀👍

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monte1111

A week of hospital food? No wonder you're feeling terrible. Hopefully, a little home cooking will have you back good as new. Say Hi to Richard.

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Grumpyswife

Always awaiting your posts and happy to hear things may be improving???

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SuppWife

Thinking of you ❤️

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NWLiving

Is this the kind of heart attacks you have been having? Do you feel them or are they just showing up on an EKG? Also Bill now has some spots on his skull. Are yours in the bone or in the brain itself? PS - totally ignore these questions if you are feeling tired…you have been on quite a ride. Thinking about you.

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John passed away on January 1st.

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