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Hmm... Wild Lettuce Capsules for pain??

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OK, here is the pitch:

Wild Lettuce Capsules for Pain 1200mg with 120ct. Natural Relief for Sore Muscles, Joints, Swelling. Aids Improved Sleep, Safe Vegetarian, Made in USA

Visit the Parker Naturals Store

Anyone have a clue?🤔

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westof

Who knew! Thanks!

Now, care to translate...

"Phyto-Chemical nature to Dandelion"!😂

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Same as

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Kaliber

Yea …. Back about a decade or more it was all the rage. I bought the concentrated drops, the capsules and even went as far as buying raw plant material to “ cook “ ( concentrate with a soxlet extractor ) my own alkaloids. Results: chalk it right up there with purple Tesla plates and orgone pyramids …..

That was my experience, maybe yours would vary, ….maybe there are news strains of lettuce …but doubt it. Guess I still hang with the scrapings off banana peels, called bananadine ( Google it, it’s fictional ) yayahahahaya yayahahahaya.

Just say’in 😂😂😂😂😂

2000ml labratory soxlet extractor
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Kaliber in reply to Kaliber

Btw: there is a special species of wild lettuce called “ opium lettuce “ , … I tried several kinds including both of those.

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westof in reply to Kaliber

Has there been anything you haven't tried??😂

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Kaliber in reply to westof

Yayahahahaya yayahahahaya. I could write thick books on my “ herbal “ exploits over the last 4 decades. The things I know and first hand experiences I’ve had would be jaw dropping. The recipes I could write ….. well …. Say no more yayahahahaya yayahahahaya. I’ve attached an old photo of my substantial “ Curandero “ closet … the photo had been specially framed to exclude certain supplies , jungle vines , African plants and so much more. I scoured the world for knowledge and supplies. You saw my soxlet extractor in a previous post. I sold the massive soxlet to the local native american group that went into the commercial cannabis growing and concentrates business and I sold the entire Curandero collection to a friend that had a family Mexican natural healing store front down south. I had some very hard to come by beauties in that collection.

Didn’t need those anymore and I was lucky to find buyers so that my wife didn’t have to, ….. or throw that plant gold in the dumper. That would have been a shame.

Just say’in 😂😂😂😂😂

Herbal wonderland yayahahahaya
in reply to westof

Nope! 😎

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westof in reply to Kaliber

Brother K!!Thanks for the input! Hope all well.

I got some bad renal results 3 months ago and could only attribute it to:

1) lack of hydration at the time of the blood draw.

2) Was taking naproxen sodium every day for minor wake up pains.

So... I stopped taking Aleve and hydrated. Redraw 3 weeks later, all was back to normal.

Best,

AJ

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Kaliber in reply to westof

Yep same here … my GP tried to steer me to one of the prescription nsaids before my opioid prescriptions. I tried a couple …. They drove my alt liver test up dramatically and my microalbumin went ballistic. Didn’t work for me and made me sick. Long term use of nsiads is always risky for everything from stomach ulcers to kidney damage. Using high powered nsaids speeds up the “ the time to damage “ time. IMHO, if you use them, use them sparingly and keep an eye on your liver enzymes. That was “ my “ personal experience….others experience may vary.

Just say’in 😁😁😁

in reply to westof

Hey AJ . I was told by a nephrologist to stay away from nsaids if possible. I was taken alleve pm when I went into k failure . I ve had some weird blood work being dehydrated also .

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westof in reply to

Thanks Scott, you confirmed my suspicions!

Best!

Thanks westy! I’ve got to get me some 😎

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Hmm...😁

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Kaliber in reply to westof

Lol

Those trapped in Aleppo lived on dandi lions

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in reply to Kaliber

Those were the days my friend. Thought they’d never end .

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Kaliber in reply to

For me they were ok because I didn’t know any other life. However, winters in Indiana are long and brutal and we were dirt poor …. It was a rugged life with zero luxuries and extras. We had very minimal electricity and heated with a single central coal stove. Our kitchen stove used wood. I got the heck out of Dodge ( yayahahahaya) as soon as I could, especially after starting to visiting relatives in the city after I got a little older. Visiting the city was like going to Disneyland….. I never looked back.

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westof in reply to Kaliber

Whoa! besides eating this 🌻, I bet that you have some GREAT "family"recipes for these: 🐉,🐛,🐜, 🐞, 🦂, 🦇, 🦕, 🦖 and lest not forget 🐭. 😒

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Kaliber in reply to westof

Rotflmao ….. ewwwwwwwwwww ….. but then you never know …. Not saying I know anything about Madagascar millipedes , whatever those are. I’ve smoked and drank some pretty disgusting stuff … ever eat mescaline cactus buttons raw ??? “ thats “ an experience you won’t soon forget …yuck …..

😂😂😂😂😂

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westof in reply to Kaliber

Touche' 😃

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Kaliber in reply to westof

Inquiring minds always want to know …..yayahahahaya

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MateoBeach in reply to Kaliber

Better to ceremonially smoke them before consuming.

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Kaliber in reply to MateoBeach

Lol ….. ceremonially…. Yea that’s it . Lol

❤️❤️❤️❤️

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monte1111 in reply to Kaliber

Best reply ever. (Your first reply.)

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Kaliber

Ooooops ….. I didn’t even register it until an hour after I posted it …. The “ bacon grease “ part. I apologize because I think you would find that offensive and I didn’t mean for it to be that. Sorry ….

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siouxbee19

healthline.com/nutrition/wi...

Beware the hallucinations!😜

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westof in reply to siouxbee19

Hi,

Thanks for the link to this site!

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Lettuce231

We Lettuce have a large and interesting family, some are wild, other are as cold as ice, some even think that they are Rockets. Each of us are very " special ".

Once you start to twitch and grow long teeth and big ears, it's time to stop !

Phil

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Kaliber in reply to Lettuce231

Yea I was hitting on a head of appropriately named “ iceberg “ lettuce at the super market …. She flipped me off and told me to “ leaf “ her alone.

Question: What do you do with a head of epileptic lettuce ???

Answer : make seizure salad.

Just say’in 😂😂😂😂

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Lettuce231 in reply to Kaliber

Hi Kaliber,

" Seizure salad " 😂, well all lettuces have a heart. I'm not going to the same supermarket you frequent, sounds too dangerous, I hope that the iceberg was wearing a mask 😷, 👀 Looks similar don't you think ?

My AKA Lettuce was my wifes idea, I don't even like gardening.

However I was born in a university city and everyone there has Lettuce after their names. B.A, M.A, etc, I felt left out 😏.

Take care our brother Kaliber,

Phil

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Kaliber in reply to Lettuce231

Yayahahahaya…..well a wall full of framed lettuces might be handy during your earning days , and putting that long green in your pocket ( but not always ) … there’s lots more veggies growing in that garden. That plus all that wall lettuce wilts with age. Things even out over time with well rooted veggies. It’s all good. With my luck ,I’d be the lettuce that gets dug by the hoe. That and think of all the broken ( and washed ) lettuce hearts when their significant other runs off with the Bok choy . Don’t even mention the scary butterflies. Yikes …. 😂😂😂

Have a good one big green lettuce231 m hope you’re having some fun on the 4th. 😁😁😁❤️❤️❤️

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Currumpaw

Hey Nalakrats!

Curcumin and ginger together. If pain is really bad a couple ibuprofen and black coffee. I expect you know about APC, a drug for pain no longer manufactured. Aspirin, Percocet and caffeine! It was found that caffeine increased the drug's ability to relieve pain.

I have mentioned this before. In the spring when dandelions first shoot up, my grandparent's would gather the dandelions and steam and eat them like spinach as a "tonic".

Currumpaw

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addicted2cycling in reply to Currumpaw

Had a GOUT ATTACK and put out the fire with celery seed tea, pills and warm compress. Try to stay away from "man made crappola" if possible. 🙂

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Currumpaw in reply to addicted2cycling

Hey addicted2cycling!

About 12 years ago while shopping in a grocery, store a short woman asked me to if I would please reach a can of dark cherries for her. I handed one to her. She asked me to hand her several more cans of dark cherries. These cherries weren't the bright red type with syrup used in pies, just dark cherries in water. I asked if she as going to bake a pie. She told me that her husband has gout and that he keeps his gout under control by eating these cherries without the side effects the medication he had been prescribed gave him! I was surprised by that.

Currumpaw

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addicted2cycling in reply to Currumpaw

Them cherries are great also but the pills go down every day with the other pills and don't have to worry about breaking another tooth. 🙂 I also include celery seed in my Curry mixture that I ad to most everything I eat.

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Currumpaw in reply to addicted2cycling

Hey addicted2cycling!

Seeds are nature's power houses. A seed will grow a new plant. I use quite a few seeds and nuts myself. I just used the keyboard for celery seeds. The seeds are rather impressive. I understand why you use celery seeds.

Currumpaw

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westof in reply to Currumpaw

Yep, I think I had a gout attack about 6 years ago (big toe was inflamed and I could barely walk). Found Ultra Tart Cherry Extract 1200mg and took it for a year and never had another episode.

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monte1111 in reply to addicted2cycling

I had a gout attack once. Worst pain ever. Prescribed colchicine. (From dried plant seeds.) Carried that bottle around with me for a long time.

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Cooolone

Hahaha I was thinking that same thing, lol

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alephnull

Wild lettuce does indeed have painkilling properties.

The active ingredient is in the milky, sticky sap.

Native Americans used it.

It's a very common "weed".

Youtube has many videos on it, and how to process it.

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pjoshea13

Don't forget that the French for dandelion is pissenlit - 'pee in bed'. It's a diuretic.

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Kaliber

Yayahahaha Technically it’s a distillery lol. I mostly made custom “ fresh “ products for people interested in natural healing. A very lucrative market. “ fresh “ and “ concentrated “ being the keys. Mugwort, Yhombie , thistles, weird stuff. If they wanted it, I’d make it … hard telling what they were doing with it yayahahaha.It’s complicated stuff.. different solvents , distilling temps etc. final product usually aromatic , colored , sticky goo I put in small no stick silicone tubs. They loved the stuff.

😂😂😂😂

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Kaliber

Yayahahahaya From what I’ve read in your posts, you are quite , in depth , knowledgeable about herbals., along with many other things.

😁😁😁😁

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monte1111

I'll keep an eye out for wild lettuce when I'm looking for tofu plants. Very hard to find.

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siouxbee19 in reply to monte1111

:O)

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GoBucks

You have the right to remain silent!!

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MateoBeach

Wow. So you can go out and pick a weed for free and then sell it on the internet for a host of problems, including mild pain, with no FDA approval (GRAS). What a business!worth a try. Expectations low.

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Kaliber in reply to MateoBeach

Lol

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Kaliber

Yea , and back in the early 60s nearly ALL the synthesized Indols ( indolealkylamines ) we’re legal as well. Things have gotten way more complicated since then. Yayahahaha now “ all “ the molecule rotations of certain molecules are illegal , even those bizarre new one that seem to pop up all the time. ( mdma variations) All of us here on this group are WAY too old and sickly to remotely think of messing with that stuff anymore . Just imho.

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Kaliber

Yea I as gonna mention precursors too. Even the basics like fuming nitric , indole and that dehydration agent that came in those 25mg ampules tucked into red painted metal cans ( it bursts into flames if allowed to warm exposed to air during synthesis. Had to do it in a small nitrogen filled plastic tent on a circulating ice bath ). I forget the name, maybe Dimethylamine … I forget, it’s been 50 years yayahahahaya. Anyway if you order any of that stuff the feds come a running. There are places on the web where the feds are offering the precursors in sting operations.

I fell into a stupid fed IHS fishing / sting operation a couple of weeks ago , myself, for trying to purchase a surplus gamma radiation detector. I saw those super long range gamma radiation detectors for sale on xxxx ( I won’t say the name but I’ll attach a non descript photo ) … the current issue the customs and IHS guys wear on their belts. They were offered at a jaw dropping $500 for a used working surplus detector ( should have realized that if it’s WAY too good to be true, then ….. ) I wanted it to “ scrub “ / detox my old uranium locker and the lab floor and nuke source locker I used in my home nuclear spectrogram hobby . Make sure its clean before I croak and not leave some potentially dangerous crumbs behind. ( check out one of my home nuke lab videos on YouTube , search “ K4NLZ $2 part 2 “ ).

Anyway to make it short and not give away any government op secrets, a lot of drama ensued ending with them apologizing and fully refunding my money instantly ( even while I still held over $1000 worth of their bait hooks ) . I’m a decorated government medical service mini hero with an extensive military and government nuclear service background … yayahahahaya yayahahahaya. It was kinda fun ( and irritating ) actually but shows you the government is hard at work trying to protect us from dangers and terrorist. Interesting stuff. Hoorah …

😂😂😂😂

Long range gamma radiation detector
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siouxbee19 in reply to Kaliber

Wow, very interesting! Sounds like a Hollywood movie if I didn't know better, but I used to work at a nuclear plant and I've got stories. 🤯🧠

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Kaliber in reply to siouxbee19

I know the security around nuke plants is insane … I’ll bet there are some juicy exploits you d heard or experienced working there yayahahahaya. There are lots of crazies out there hell bent on disrupting our lives , tho sometimes intrusive, thank goodness we have the “ boys and their ploys “ at least trying to protect us.

❤️❤️❤️

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siouxbee19 in reply to Kaliber

Thank goodness, indeed! ☢️👩‍🔧

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Kaliber in reply to siouxbee19

I know the NRC conducts those mock adversary attacks on plants every three years , some of those pretty creative and site security probably had some interesting innovative scenarios as well yayahahahaya yayahahahaya. The boys with the ploys protecting our toys . Great stuff … lots of movies made about that stuff for sure. Same thing …. on the web , in auction sites and other locations …. Some topics you type in ( I’ll not mention those here ) …anywhere from 60% to 100% of items or sales that pop up are “ all “ government sting operations. You can’t really buy any of that stuff anymore yayahahahaya. Operations fishing for bad actors. It’s sad really but with the way things are all over the world these days .. all that stuff is necessary. 💪💪💪😁😁😁❤️❤️❤️

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siouxbee19 in reply to Kaliber

🤫🤐😶😎👽🧿👃🧿👽😎

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Kaliber in reply to siouxbee19

Yayahahahaya. I know you can’t talk about them but back many years ago, I used to love hiking up to the warning signs of my local coastal nuclear power plant … with my gamma spectrometer equipment and making great spectrograms of the extremely minute rad signatures found around nuke sites. My nuke hobby started with my nuclear weapons training in the military and continued into my medical career where I certified and repaired dozens of kinds of full body gamma scanners, neutron scanners , bone density scanners , etc. in V.A. Hospitals. You can Google me making gamma spectrograms on YouTube ( K4NLZ $2 part 2 ) back before I got sick. Sold everything now. Didn’t want to stick my wife with it. Better back in the bank. Nuke power plants are kewl places with gobs of fun hi-tech radiation equipment on site to play with.

😁😁😁😁

Early basic version of my home nuke lab
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siouxbee19 in reply to Kaliber

I was just teasing w/the😎👽🕴️🕴️🕴️ emoji's, but you are correct, very interesting stuff happens on/around nuclear site!

Your post is what piqued my interest, led me to post, and look at your YouTube! Very interesting to me, sounds like an exciting career! Thank you for your service!

Funny story, hubby walks in about that time and says "Whatcha watching?". I just casually say "how to make gamma spectrograms ", he shrugs, says ok, then turns and walks away! He's used to my brain by now! 🧠🕵️

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Kaliber in reply to siouxbee19

It’s so nerdy that nearly everyone drops into a deep sleep about 30 seconds into the video yayahahahaya. The fact you didn’t drop into deep sleep shows you must have at least some interest yayahahahaya.

You are right tho … it’s so “ out there “ that most people gloss over it and try to get away yayahahahaya a

😁😁😁❤️❤️❤️

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Kaliber

Hummmmmm …. Yayahahahaya yayahahahaya. Nailed it . Definitely sounds like you know your molecules . 👏👏👏😁😁😁

You could synthesize an array of interesting molecules with those building blocks yayahahahaya. There was a time , long ago, you could walk into any big city chemical supply store and buy stuff and no one even blinked. Too old now … but those were fun times. That was such a long time ago.

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westof

Hmm... Should have named the post "conversations with Nal & Kal".😂😂😂 Just got home from work and noticed today's activity.

So, awaiting me was a package:

"Zazzee Wild Lettuce Extract, 500 mg Strength per Capsule, 120 Vegan Capsules, Most Potent Lactuca Virosa Variety, Powerful 4X Extract, Vegan and Non-GMO, All-Natural Sleep Aid and Pain Reliever". Different brand from the one I had originally mentioned.

Having read replies from this post (thank you!) and Amazon ratings (including Fakespot), I decided on this brand.

So in digesting this knowledge (I also popped the 1st cap, according to directions), here are my anecdotal and modest expectations:

1) Absolutely no effect,

2) Might help with morning minor aches and joint pain. Don't suffer from chronic pain (except occasionally from "Darling Wife of 48 Years"!!) 😍

3) Might provide me with some vivid, explicit dreams🧜 (given the state of my libido)!

4} Might have my 1st "Acid Flashback", which I think is a myth (care to chime in Kaliber?)

If I DO have a good one, I will send samples to "Brother K" and "Lulu".😁

I'll keep you posted...

Best,

AJ

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Kaliber in reply to westof

Yayahahahaya yayahahahaya we love ya brother westof. If you are looking for some “ natural “ pain relief that works , I could give you the benefit of my extensive personal experience. Pm me if you want to give something else a try and I’ll fill you in on something WAY more likely to work than bogus wild lettuce yayahahahaya

I’ve soxlet extracted wild lettuce for others and tried the concentrates on the web …none of that worked for me. It may for others, but didn’t for me at all.

Later 🐊 🌸🦋🌈🌼😊

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Kaliber in reply to westof

Ok ……this is so stupidly simple , you’ll probably think I’m kidding ( I’m not ) . I hate to divulge these precious little tid bits but here goes. Go to Amazon and search for “ Solo ( brand ) poppy seed cake and pastry filling “. You get two cans for about $9.

Spread a good thick 1/4 inch ( or more ) layer , of this deliciousness , on your buttered morning toast . ……that’s it , so simple, guaranteed to be 20X better than your wild lettuce. If you need more powerful relief then message me.

😂😂😂😂😂💪💪💪❤️❤️❤️

You will flunk both urine and blood drug tests for up to 14 days after you eat this … keep that in mind if appropriate.

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westof in reply to Kaliber

Hmm... OK Brother K, I did " Go to Amazon and search for “ Solo ( brand ) poppy seed cake and pastry filling “. Yep, it's there and after reading a few reviews, I came across this title:

"5.0 out of 5 stars, Just like my mother used to make"

Hmm... (again), it triggered a thought about a 70's rock group "Mom's Apple Pie" and their banned album cover.

By posting this, I may get Banned!!

Best

Banned Album Cover!
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Kaliber in reply to westof

OMG ….. wow, BAMMMM ….. boy that’s a great leap sideways I absolutely never thought of yayahahahaya yayahahahaya yayahahahaya. Good one , kinda ……well …..er … unusual ( twisted ? ) but I like it. Yayahahahaya In this case , that filling is intended to be eaten and not a gritty salve for extremities….. those seeds would be rough, but maybe that’s what you’d like, dunno. ( if this disappears , we’ll know D-aryl is at work yayahahahaya)

If you try the filling , some cans are better than others and the beneficial effects only lasts about 4-5 hours . In nearly all cases the benefits are very mild. Nothing too strong or scary. Better natural meds with the same base ingredient are available.

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westof in reply to westof

So, I just completed my 9 day "Wild Lettuce" trial experiment with perhaps, hopeful expectations.

Results: Zip, Nada, Nothing! (might as well throw in Zilch!)

Many swear by it and God bless them.

A gram or 2 of beneficial roughage might have been only benefit.😒

Hey, Brother Kaliber, does your offer still stand??

I'll PM you and even send you a check!!

As long as its legal and were not facing a 10-20 year stretch!😁😁😁

Best to all

AJ

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Kaliber in reply to westof

“ the ones that mother gives you does nothing at all , just ask Alice , I think she’ll know. “

Yayahahahaya yayahahahaya …… well that wasn’t an offer to sell, it was an offer to “ give “ you the “ knowledge “ you need to accomplish your own natural remedies , that actually work. Prolly better try the pastry filling first. For many that would offer something in between nsaids and tramadol , and if you are lucky …you’ll get a can full of tasty filling that 2 or 3 spoonfuls equals a vike. “ that “ can would be precious and you can actually score several sometimes. Most often tho, mild is the word. If that was sufficient, I’d stick with that as long as your “ tolerance “ doesn’t cancel it out.

You’d be sending your money to Amazon , eBay or the web if you want the “ potential “ upscale product ( crap shoot ) . The world is filled with hornswaddlers, scammers and rip-off artist … usually Amazon is the closest to reliable that you could expect. Used to be dead bang reliable for many decades then all of a sudden it got trumpeted all over the web and nearly ruined everything.

Say brother …. I was just reminiscing about what is undoubtably the most funny post on the group … maybe ever ….. your brain numbing “ penis fish “ post remains burned into my consciousness … what a trip that one was. Yayahahahaya yayahahahaya. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

If you still want to converse on the side I’m good to go on that ….just in case I suddenly croak and all that knowledge / experience disappears. There are those trained to carry the knowledge forward but they have the “ loose lips sinks ships “ mentality and would never discuss it . Yayahahahaya

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westof in reply to Kaliber

Thanks Brother K, I just placed the order for “ Solo ( brand ) poppy seed cake and pastry filling “

Now, I plan to try 1 can for medicinal purposes and the other to actually bake a pie!

( not " Moms Apple Pie") as I may have had offended many...

6 weeks ago I decided to abandon my traditional Sunday breakfast (half a can of corned beef hash topped by 2 eggs over lightly. And then I take the fork and briskly blend!

Mandatory Bloody Mary!

Now, "Darling Wife of NOW 48 Years", a vegetarian, will run out of kitchen horrified!!

So... I rediscovered a great dish "Quiche Lorraine"!

Eggs, cheese, milk or cream and anything else you want throw into it, veggies? (might not work if you're lactose intolerant!).

Bottom line: Hmm...

Really don't have one...

Best to all

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Kaliber in reply to westof

Give that a try …. It depends upon getting “ good “ filling and your sensitivity to that alkaloid. If that works at that level then good ….. it’s way better that way. if you have to “ kick “ it up a bit to get relief , I’ll give you the info on pm. Definitely it works but there caveats to keep in mind.

Im getting really tired of eggs myself … ate a red pepper and shiitake mushroom omelette this morning that was pretty good considering. Have to shift off the carbs to wash down my morning pills and subdue the bp meds that require mandatory meals to go with them. My bg kicking my hind end lately.

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